Too many VV choices - don't know what to get

[ericoahu]

I don't care about looks, style, size, or aesthetics.

I don't care about fancy features - I can take 'em or leave 'em.

I do want quality, reliability, and a satisfactory degree of safety.

I greatly prefer something that will work with everything - in other words, no proprietary connections or shapes that don't work well with this or that tank, cargo, etc.

I also want to be able to buy it from a reputable vendor. Especially a reputable vendor that sells a good variety of cartos and other accessories.

If I have to, I can end up spending Provari amounts of cash but if I can get really good bang for the buck cheaper, I prefer to be frugal.

I don't want anything much under 1000mah.

There seems to be endless choices out there. I've considered lava tubes but which kind of lava tube should I get? I've considered the Provari but it'll be a while before I can budget for it. I am giving a kGo VV a try, but....well I'm here asking this question. I've thought about a Twist, but concerned about vape time. I've looked at grippers. I've looked at lots of things.

Its driving me kinda nuts. What should I get?

 

[Techwipe]

If you can spend provari bucks, get a provari.

 

[ericoahu]

If you can spend provari bucks, get a provari.

Are they twice as good as a lava tube?

 

[SKYYcamel]

The Provari and the LavaTube both do variable voltage. However, the LavaTube does it like a Kia and the Provari does it like a BMW. In this case, you definitely get what you pay for.

 

[ericoahu]

The Provari and the LavaTube both do variable voltage. However, the LavaTube does it like a Kia and the Provari does it like a BMW. In this case, you definitely get what you pay for.

If you didn't have a car and you travel 15 miles each day, and you could afford buying a Kia today or a BMW after saving for a year, would you walk to work the next twelve months or start driving a Kia?

But I don't want to know about cars actually, I'd like to know what makes a Provari twice as good as a Lava Tube or other VV device.

 

[flarg]

There's generic tube mods out there that do VV, but only give you 3 steps. They're good all the same for getting into VV, and they can be had for less than $20. With the cheap tube mods, it's just basically a cylinder that you put this rechargeable battery in, screw on the end, then you click the button so many times to get low, another so many times to get medium, another so many times to get high, and then another so many times to turn off. And we're talking up to 2200 mAh's here so they'll keep you going non stop for some time.

18650 Tube Mod $16 18650 Tube Mod - Steel
New Feature! Voltage changable system: Press the button 4 times to change the voltage, Red light--it's high voltage (around 4.0V), Pink light- -it's mid voltage (around 3.6V), Blue light--it's low voltage (around 3.0V) Elegant and classy 18650 tube mod. The unit is designed to work with a single 18650 battery.
Looking to step into a big battery mod, on a budget, and want a classy device? This tube mod is the perfect choice.
Battery is not included with the mod.

Here's a mini VV kit for $40
The Varitube Mini (silver) - Full Kit | Variable Voltage | MODS | iVAPE
Kits include:
One Mini Varitube mod
Two 3.0 OHM Atomizers (we recommend BOGE standard cartos with this kit)
Two 18350 1200mAh batteries
One 18350 battery charger
one eGo carry pocket case

For a step up, there's the VMax kit for $70:
Vmax V2 VV 3 to 6 Volts
( AVAILABLE NOW ) This device will adjust from 3.0 to 6.0 volts in 0.1v increments. Has a built in 3 digit display for voltage adjusting . Holds (2) 18350 High Power Batteries (sold seperate). Made of Brass, Colors: Black and Silver. DCB allows 5 AMP output limit. Button never gets stuck. Flex 360 degree turning around.

http://.........blogspot.com/ I like this dude's site for looking for deals. He seems like a no thrills kinda guy, just out to save people money while ensuring quality and vendor reliability.

 

[williebb123]

i have had a provari 18650 for almost 2 yrs now and my experience hands down for safety and reliability i would get nothing else you wont regret it i was a heavy smoker so my batts last me all day dont have to swap out till late evening i use 2 batts and my sweatie uses 2 batts

 

[B4DJ1N64N]

If you didn't have a car and you travel 15 miles each day, and you could afford buying a Kia today or a BMW after saving for a year, would you walk to work the next twelve months or start driving a Kia?

But I don't want to know about cars actually, I'd like to know what makes a Provari twice as good as a Lava Tube or other VV device.

I'm not saying that a provari twice as good as any VV, but from my 18 months using provari, I don't have a second thought NOT to buy another one for backup.
My provari have been abused, dropped from table top over 40 times, dropped from my hand into paving blocks and concretes more than ten times, and the most horrible one is dropped from 3rd floor to first floor, smashed my tank, carto, and an aluminium driptip, leave a big dink and some deep scratches on my provari and it's still works just as the first day. I guess I will need to buy at least ten or twenty of other pv IF I haven't use a provari.

 

[cozzicon]

If you didn't have a car and you travel 15 miles each day, and you could afford buying a Kia today or a BMW after saving for a year, would you walk to work the next twelve months or start driving a Kia?

But I don't want to know about cars actually, I'd like to know what makes a Provari twice as good as a Lava Tube or other VV device.

What most folks won't admit it. But, blindfolded, with an adjusted draw and same setup/voltage- I could not tell the difference between a Provari and a Lavatube.

The Lavatube is just fine. The Provari is far better than just fine for other reasons.

I've done a three part video series covering the Lavatube, Provari, Darwin and Kick. It's basically intended to do an overview of regulated vaping. Perhaps it will give you some perspective based on my observations

Regulated Vaping: Lavatube/Provari/Darwin/Kick (part 1) - YouTube

Regulated Vaping: Lavatube/Provari/Darwin/Kick (part 2) - YouTube

Regulated Vaping: Lavatube/Provari/Darwin/Kick (part 3) - YouTube

 

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I have a ProVari and a LavaTube. Yes the ProVari is worth it.

 

[Rickajho]

Your post seems to indicate you are a no nonsense kind of guy. If you want something that just works very well consider the VariCool boxes from SmokTek. These are not cheap versions like the MadVapes stuff. High efficiency regulator, long run times, the 6 AMP "Beast" version can actually be pushed to 6.0 volts and do it without shutting down.

SmokTek "SmokBox VariCool" - Custom Variable Volt Box Mod - Efficient switching regulator! adjustable 3,4,5,6.5 volt's & everything between.

It's only relative weakness would be it is built around a battery box, so if you drop it all over the place the plastic box is gonna suffer. But that's the difference between a $200.00 PV and one less than 1/3 that price. I have had my first one for over seven months now - still working.

 

[ericoahu]

What most folks won't admit it. But, blindfolded, with an adjusted draw and same setup/voltage- I could not tell the difference between a Provari and a Lavatube.

The Lavatube is just fine. The Provari is far better than just fine for other reasons.

I've done a three part video series covering the Lavatube, Provari, Darwin and Kick.

I watched all three videos and found them very informative. I subscribed to your channel too btw. Keep those vids coming!

Thanks for your input. I am very interested in the Kick. I guess the way I look at it is if I had $100 to spend on "works" plus $100 to spend on "nice" I'd but the Provari in a heartbeat. Right now I just want to get "works" if all I'm getting for the extra $100 is "nice."

 

[ericoahu]

There's generic tube mods out there that do VV, but only give you 3 steps. They're good all the same for getting into VV, and they can be had for less than $20.
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http://.........blogspot.com/ I like this dude's site for looking for deals. He seems like a no thrills kinda guy, just out to save people money while ensuring quality and vendor reliability.

Thank you kindly for those ideas. The simplicity of that sort of thing is very appealing to me. Also thanks for the link to ........ - I hadn't discovered that site yet but its now bookmarked.

I appreciate the time you spent helping me with my question.

 

[tearose50]

I don't care about looks, style, size, or aesthetics.

I don't care about fancy features - I can take 'em or leave 'em.

I do want quality, reliability, and a satisfactory degree of safety.

I greatly prefer something that will work with everything - in other words, no proprietary connections or shapes that don't work well with this or that tank, cargo, etc.

I also want to be able to buy it from a reputable vendor. Especially a reputable vendor that sells a good variety of cartos and other accessories.

If I have to, I can end up spending Provari amounts of cash but if I can get really good bang for the buck cheaper, I prefer to be frugal.

I don't want anything much under 1000mah.

There seems to be endless choices out there. I've considered lava tubes but which kind of lava tube should I get? I've considered the Provari but it'll be a while before I can budget for it. I am giving a kGo VV a try, but....well I'm here asking this question. I've thought about a Twist, but concerned about vape time. I've looked at grippers. I've looked at lots of things.

Its driving me kinda nuts. What should I get?

You just described a Provari. IMHO, of course.

I also think the Twist is a handy tidy device.

As to vendors --- I have never found one multi-purpose vendor, tho some may try to be that. I split it up and stay with those that tend to specialize in one area -- ie liquid vendor, battery vendor.... Whatever else I might want will be available at one of those places.

 

[ericoahu]

I ended up with the Lava Tube. It came with a 1 year warranty. $54.

 

[Slurp812]

All stainless steel construction, and very good regulation. Last hit is as strong as the first. If you aren't rough on your equipment, and just don't have the cash, maybe a lava tube is the way to go. I think of the price in packs of smokes. So yea, it costs like 4 cartons. For me that's like 80 days.

 

[Baditude]

The major reason I went with a Provari was fit and finish, quality of materials and workmanship, expected durability, and customer service confidence from an American company that will support the device after warranty expiration.

The lava tube and clones may last for years, or only months. If the device fails after the warranty, your only recourse is to buy another device.

A Provari will provide the same hit from the moment you put in a fresh battery until it requires replacement. It's safety features are stellar. The one button control takes 5 minutes to learn....honest.

Best device I've bought and will ever own.

 

[flarg]

Provaris just look stupid to me, and looks are important to me, obviously.
Even dolled up ones look like vibrators. Perhaps even more so.

 

[cozzicon]

The major reason I went with a Provari was fit and finish, quality of materials and workmanship, expected durability, and customer service confidence from an American company that will support the device after warranty expiration.

The lava tube and clones may last for years, or only months. If the device fails after the warranty, your only recourse is to buy another device.

A Provari will provide the same hit from the moment you put in a fresh battery until it requires replacement. It's safety features are stellar. The one button control takes 5 minutes to learn....honest.

Best device I've bought and will ever own.

To be fair, I think Volcano offers a reliable warranty on a Lavatube.

And even as a Provari owner- I have two Lavatubes that do get used.

But yet... they are not durable. Mostly end cap issues in my case.

 

[ericoahu]

The lava tube and clones may last for years, or only months. If the device fails after the warranty, your only recourse is to buy another device.

I spent $54 on my Lava Tube. It has a one-year warranty. If it breaks within the next year they give me another one free. If it lasts me a year and then breaks I think I got my $54 worth.

A year from now we'll probably be one or two generations removed from my Lava Tube and your Provari - there'll be a whole other assortment of devices that are the new standard.

Provari will provide the same hit from the moment you put in a fresh battery until it requires replacement. It's safety features are stellar.

The same is true of the Lava Tube at 1/3 the price.

Best device I've bought and will ever own.

No argument there. Had I been able to afford a Provari as easily as a Lava Tube I would have chosen the Provari. What I (and many other vapers) are faced with is a limited amount of disposable income such that we have to prioritize and look at "bang for the buck."

A $200 lighter is better than a 79 cent disposable lighter. But I'm not going to suggest everyone who needs a lighter buy the $200 lighter.