Thinking about a Provari

[bilbobaggins30]

Thing is, I am not abusive at all. I have a setup to where I can carry for it, and especially with the provari, I will treat it like a newborn baby. Wow, I did not expect all of the positive feedback. I am going to make it my goal to find all of the potential issues before I buy, which will not be for a few more months... Kudos to whoever said that I will own one since I started this thread lol.

 

[quatro]

They've already said there are no plans for VW.

Just based on sales/marketing I doubt that but could be wrong. It is logical to make the above comment so as not to hurt current sales but at the same time they would be giving away market share if not improving the design. So lets re-visit this 6months-year from now and see. Maybe sales are so good that there is no need for them to grow, then I would believe the comment.

 

[Baditude]

The OP really didn't need to start this thread. Just go to Provari sub-forums to see how pleased the vast majority of owners are with their Provari's. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/

Yes, a minority of customers have issues, but the vast majority of those have those issues resolved to their satisfaction.

The important distinction that the Provari holds over its competition is that it is made by a company that will stand by their product for the entire time that you own it. Only a couple of other USA PV manufacturers do the same, NONE of the Chinese manufacturers do.

 

[gthompson]

Just based on sales/marketing I doubt that but could be wrong. It is logical to make the above comment so as not to hurt current sales but at the same time they would be giving away market share if not improving the design. So lets re-visit this 6months-year from now and see. Maybe sales are so good that there is no need for them to grow, then I would believe the comment.

VW is not in and of itself a design improvement. People "demanding" VW are a minority. It's not that big a deal to most folks.

 

[Baditude]

Just based on sales/marketing I doubt that but could be wrong. It is logical to make the above comment so as not to hurt current sales but at the same time they would be giving away market share if not improving the design. So lets re-visit this 6months-year from now and see. Maybe sales are so good that there is no need for them to grow, then I would believe the comment.

I've always said that if Provape was going to offer VW in the Provari, they would have done it with the most recent 2.5v update. As it was, it was only a cosmetic change, nothing to the inner electronics. Provape has repeatedly stated that they will not offer VW.

Provape, for all of its continued success, it just a small company. I've seen no let up in sales if judging its popularity here on ECF. If you were considering purchasing a Provari but have been holding out for the VW version, you must not have really wanted one in the first place. It's likely not going to happen. VW really has limited usefulness.

 

[Baditude]

double post - wasn't my fault.

 

[quatro]

VW is not in and of itself a design improvement. People "demanding" VW are a minority. It's not that big a deal to most folks.

Oh yes it is, anytime new capability is added it is referred to as a new and improved design. I am not talking about aesthetic design but more in terms of capability.

 

[gthompson]

My Provari is already VW.

 

[quatro]

My Provari is already VW.

I want to vape what you are vaping

 

[Baditude]

Oh yes it is, anytime new capability is added it is referred to as a new and improved design. I am not talking about aesthetic design but more in terms of capability.

Please explain why VW would be important to you as a vapor.

And not in a general context, but specifically.

What would having variable wattage gain you that having just variable voltage could not do?

 

[Rocketpunk]

VW is a cool feature, but only if you're using different delivery devices with different ohms, as has been previously stated. All of my cartos are low-resistance 2.0 ohms, so I really don't have to mess with VW. I know my sweet spot is at 3.8 volts. The only time I fiddle with VW is if I'm using something around the 2.5/6 ohm range, and only several of my delivery devices are at that resistance. ::shrugs shoulders:: I'm a low-voltage vaper.

VW is a cool feature, but it's just a feature. Sort of like puff counters. Cool, but not necessary. Baditude was right, any smart vaper will know where their sweet spot is, depending on the knowledge of ohm resistance. I suck at math, and it's not that hard. 2 ohms and you're ok between 3.7 and 4.2 volts. And for me, 4.2 is pushing it (my cousin vapes at 5.5 volts with 3.3 ohm cartos -- that's WAAAAY to high for me).

 

[quatro]

Main reason being that it will calculate and apply the voltage needed to keep the selected power constant even if there is a change in resistance. There is variance in R values of the same delivery device models, VW eliminates the effect of this variance, VV does not.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Please explain why VW would be important to you as a vapor.

And not in a general context, but specifically.

What would having variable wattage gain you that having just variable voltage could not do?

While not directed at me I can tell you why I like VW. I have posted that the Vari is a great device and I use mine daily but I also hit 3 Darwins and several kicked Mech Mod's and a Opus. The Darwins are my main vape tools

On the VW stuff I like the 8.5 watt range. I would consider my habit on the high side at about 8-10mls/day. The Vari when dialed in gives a great hit but it holds the voltage constant. We know that heat changes the resistance of coils (even if it is slight) and when that happens the VW compensates and delivers the dialed in wattage no matter what the coil resistance is. So while we could discuss the small nuances of coil resistance changes I can tell and do notice a flavor change in my juice when hitting a VV hard versus the VW. Yes it is slight but it is there. I like VW over VV but I am a fan of a quality built device hence my post to the OP to get one. I prefer to spend a few extra bucks and keep the creative minds busy and at work here in the US. These guys designed and built these devices for us and pushed the norm and I would much rather pay a little more for a high quality device than save $100 on what is really a knock off their work.

 

[gthompson]

Main reason being that it will calculate and apply the voltage needed to keep the selected power constant even if there is a change in resistance. There is variance in R values of the same delivery device models, VW eliminates the effect of this variance, VV does not.

I don't have any variance in resistance, so there's no point.

 

[2coils]

While not directed at me I can tell you why I like VW. I have posted that the Vari is a great device and I use mine daily but I also hit 3 Darwins and several kicked Mech Mod's and a Opus. The Darwins are my main vape tools

On the VW stuff I like the 8.5 watt range. I would consider my habit on the high side at about 8-10mls/day. The Vari when dialed in gives a great hit but it holds the voltage constant. We know that heat changes the resistance of coils (even if it is slight) and when that happens the VW compensates and delivers the dialed in wattage no matter what the coil resistance is. So while we could discuss the small nuances of coil resistance changes I can tell and do notice a flavor change in my juice when hitting a VV hard versus the VW. Yes it is slight but it is there. I like VW over VV but I am a fan of a quality built device hence my post to the OP to get one. I prefer to spend a few extra bucks and keep the creative minds busy and at work here in the US. These guys designed and built these devices for us and pushed the norm and I would much rather pay a little more for a high quality device than save $100 on what is really a knock off their work.

This is the only reasonable answer in regard to VW in this thread(though a Provari topic). I dont agree myself that VW is needed, though I can see why one would like it.. When vaping on a Provari I do tinker with the voltage setting a bit when using the same carto for a prolonged amout of time. I do feel like the vape changes after a while (Not the Provaris fault). I have had a bunch of different devices, hands down Pro Vape distances themselves from MOST but not all the competition. I am a bit curious though... as I am awaiting a Kick for a Mech Mod that is sitting on my dining room table!! To the OP, Buy a Provari, you will not be disappointed!!!

 

[FogHawg]

I vape my sweet fruit & dessert type juices at 8-10 watts but prefer my tobacco flavors really kicking at around 12-14. Now add in different delivery devices w/various resistances & I can't see how VW would benefit me at all.

 

[duner]

Just my 0.2...(to the OP, sorry don't want to highjack your thread) In my research on mod's I found that eventually I would buy a Provari. I could spend $200 now or I could work my way up and spend a whole lot more buying other mods first and then buy one. I looked into the vw thing as a down side. Has anyone heard of Ohm's Law / Power Law?
If you change voltage or resistance, you are changing your wattage and vice / versa. I think there is a misconception that you can adjust wattage by itself. The devil is in the details.

 

[2coils]

Just my 0.2...(to the OP, sorry don't want to highjack your thread) In my research on mod's I found that eventually I would buy a Provari. I could spend $200 now or I could work my way up and spend a whole lot more buying other mods first and then buy one. I looked into the vw thing as a down side. Has anyone heard of Ohm's Law / Power Law?
If you change voltage or resistance, you are changing your wattage and vice / versa. I think there is a misconception that you can adjust wattage by itself. The devil is in the details.

Agreed, Ive spent a bunch of money on devices before I stepped up and bought one. When I preach the same advice most Provari assassins come out of the woodwork and ..... at me. I was only trying to save people some money..

 

[quatro]

So when the Provari gets updated, all the present owners will not rush in to get the update as it is not needed!

 

[quatro]

I don't have any variance in resistance, so there's no point.

There is always variance, you just do not know it.