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Mistress_of_Design

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Something you might want to try and source is a product called "GC Tooth Mousse" from Recaldent. It's usually only available through your dentist (not available in supermarkets or pharmacies as far as I know), but I've found it a few times up on eBay. I used to work as a dental nurse a few years ago and got hooked on this stuff. For me, it's more beneficial than mouthwash.

What is it for? A whole range of oral issues. If you have active decay in your mouth, sensitive teeth, erosion or tooth wear from grinding or brushing too hard, if you suffer from dry mouth, have an acidic oral environment from too much sugar and soft drinks, if you are undertaking orthodontic treatment, have white spot lesions, and if you are undertaking tooth whitening procedures. *giggles* The list goes on and on.

Fluoride in toothpaste creates a film on your teeth to protect them from decay. Tooth moouse works in a slightly different way, and has to be left in contact with effected areas and shouldn't be rinsed off. The active ingredients in tooth mousse (bio-available calcium and phosphate) re-mineralizes enamel and encourage saliva flow. It will bind to plaque and soft tissue and continue to leech *good stuff* in to your mouth long after you think it's gone.

You should still continue brushing and flossing as normal, this isn't a substitue for good oral hygine. Tooth mousse is more a once every couple of days thing for me, more if I need it. It tastes nice too! Very creamy, a bit like medicinal melted ice-cream.

This is a milk-derived product, so anyone who is lactose intolerant or has any sort of dairy issues should stear clear.

It's not a miracle cure for dry mouth and cavities but it's certainly worth looking in to. Your mileage may vary. :)
 

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Glad everything went well, I too have a history of anxiety and do not do well at the dentist so I understand your concerns! Even a simple cleaning makes my knuckes go white on the arms of the chair and it doesn't even hurt.

I have sensitive teeth so don't want any further sensitivity or decay, I'll have to seriously start upping my fluids since I do get some dry mouth. I like to drink caffeinated pop but I really better switch to water.

To be forgiven is divine... :)
 

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I havent noticed any dry mouth from using the pg, but one thing I have noticed is that it makes my breath smell bad.

Dont quote me on this, but I have read somewhere that they use sugar to flavor some of the e-liquids out there. So think about that, we are bathing our teeth in sugar every time we take a puff. If that is the case, I might as well soak my teeth in coca cola. still not giving up vaping though, just thought i would try to inform others and let them research it and make up their own minds.

And you people talking about fluoride, please stay away from that poison, it will kill you or damage your brain. Stay away from aspartame and msg while youre at it. some free advice
 

shivadance

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Phew, glad I don't have to pay you for the advice. :D:D I'll just add those items to the long list of other things that will kill me/rot my brain/make me to bad things I don't remember the next day.

Honestly tho, maybe using flouride would help with the bad breath issue? I haven't had any bad breath issues. Actually, since I don't smoke analogs anymore I think my breath is much improved. ;-)

From what I've read, the juice doesn't have any sugar. And I believe most DIYers use sugar-free flavorings. I've read on the forum that sugar would clog the atty. So I won't quote you but I think you might be off the mark on that one.
 

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I had to take some anticholinergics for a few months a couple years back. That caused the worse dry mouth I'd ever had! In any case, my dentist recommended chewing Trident (or, in fact, any chewing gum with xylitol as the sweetener) since it reduces risk of cavities and can offset the effects of the dry mouth.
 

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Thanks for your valuable input, folks!

I've also realized that I tend to be a mouth breather. So, this afternoon I went for a 20 minute walk with my dog and my 401 and made sure to always keep my mouth closed and breathe through my nose. I also paced myself by not puffing as often. My mouth never dried out.

When I got home, I brushed my teeth and my tongue with a fluoride-based toothpaste (sorry), then popped in some sugar-free gum. My mouth is feeling okay.
 

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Xerostomia (Dry Mouth)

Treatment:

1. Identify the xerostomic condition and the cause. Some of the causes may be ameliorated and this will aid therapy. But in many situations, it will be difficult to eliminate the causes. Thus, it will be necessary for the Dentist to control the results of xerostomia. This is especially true about the increase in dental caries.

2. Palliative treatment can be used but does not cure the condition:
-pilocarpine (Salagen) 5mg, qid, prescription required. -special food preparation - blended and moist foods are easier to swallow artificial saliva (available over-the-counter). -sipping plain water is usually preferred over artificial saliva by most patients. -Biotene brand, over-the-counter, dry mouth products (toothpaste, alcohol- free mouth rinse and Oralbalance lubricating gel). -avoidance of alcohol-based mouth rinses
-use of water and glycerin mixed in a small aerosol spray bottle.
Xerostomia
If Glycerine or Glycerine based products dry out the mouth, why would this be recommended as treatment?:
-use of water and glycerin mixed in a small aerosol spray bottle.


I am getting more confused by the minute, LOL. I have to say though, that since I started vaping (heavy) I have a real problem with a dry mouth. I also started having all sorts of tooth problems even though I have not had any in years.

At first I thought the problems where being caused by chewing and holding on to the vapor mouth pieces (soft and hard) but now I am not so sure. I may be the result of dry mouth/vaping for 2.5 months....

I am now thinking of ordering the Mousse or this Dry Mouth Gel:
DentalShop

Would the Gel be better than the GC Tooth Mousse?????

 

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I've had a few dental problems as well, and began using Xylitol gum which eliminated the problems. Here's a link....

Xylitol Products - Xylitol Gum, Xylitol Mints and More from Epic Dental

Do your own due diligence, but this is the only true treatment that can repair cavities and helps reverse any negative dental problems. There are other brands as well, compare xylitol and fluoride .....

Hope this helps...
 

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Hi guys/gals/FDA,

I want to follow up on my dry mouth problem that started this thread. In my last post, I mentioned that I've been a mouth breather. Since I became aware of this, I've been forcing myself to breath through my nose at all times. This has completely solved my problem. I've noticed that I no longer wake up in the morning with a totally dry mouth, too. I guess I never paid any attention to it until vaping.

Tonight, I went for a hour long walk and vaped all the time, making sure to focus on nose breathing, and did not experience any problems with saliva production. I could even taste the Johnson Creek juice (old stuff) so much better.

It's also made me aware that I have sinus problems that I've been accepting as normal, and that's why I've been mouth breathing. I'm always blowing my nose, sneezing and feeling clogged up. I'm going to talk to my doctor about nasal sprays. And this has nothing to do with tobacco or e-cigarettes, because it's been this way long before I've touched either of the two. I'm such a sensitive person.

If anything changes, I will post an update.
 
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shivadance

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It's also made me aware that I have sinus problems that I've been accepting as normal, and that's why I've been mouth breathing. I'm always blowing my nose, sneezing and feeling clogged up. I'm going to talk to my doctor about nasal sprays. And this has nothing to do with tobacco or e-cigarettes, because it's been this way long before I've touched either of the two. I'm such a sensitive person.

Isn't it interesting how in some cases we get used to a minor annoyance/pain/illness and forget what 'normal' feels like? I've had sinus issues since living in Denver and will put up with minor headaches and nasal congestion for weeks or months waiting for it to clear up naturally or just using decongestants.

Then one day I think, this has gone on too long, my headache is killing me, I need meds to clear this up! And after a few days on antibiotics and such I feel so much better I can't believe I put up with feeling so bad for so long!

Best of luck getting your issues cleared up with the doc, hope you feel much better very soon!
 
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