Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

[brewbear]

Wow! a Golden Spike clock. It's just up the road a piece from me. Been there many times

If you posted pictures, we can not see them!

 

[sorrynomore]

Florida gulf coast, 14th floor balcony, morning Joe and HS Tab in the Nauti... nice

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Surfs Up...Looks like a nice place to be!

 

[ToolmanTexas]

Many long time quitters forget that to a newbie, the single most important factor in someone trying to quit is to replicate the feel and satisfaction of the act of smoking as close as possible, and to find a MTL unit that puffs like a cigarette.

You won't find many in this thread who have forgotten that and we MTLers continue to sing the praise of devices like the Innokin T18, Aspire nautilus, Protank and Ego Ones... all great devices for noobs and pros alike!

 

[sorrynomore]

By the way, it does not have to be an Innokin Endura. But it has to be a simple, dedicated MTL device with no bells and whistles other than a fire button.

Yup...I started "real" vaping with ego type batteries and pro tank minis after a cigalite.Then came my Vision Spinner which I really,really liked.
As @DavidOck says adjustable voltage/wattage could easily be used by a beginner to tune their setup for an even better vape.

 

[DancingHeretik]

Yup...I started "real" vaping with ego type batteries and pro tank minis after a cigalite.Then came my Vision Spinner which I really,really liked.
As @DavidOck says adjustable voltage/wattage could easily be used by a beginner to tune their setup for an even better vape.

Simple with no VV or VW sounds ideal. But, it's not. It's only ideal if everyone likes the same wattage. But, they don't.

All those 'simple' devices: I don't even understand what they are. I understand the old devices that gave you the voltage based on the battery level. But, these new ones are a certain set wattage, right? But, what wattage? I like 7.5 watts.

 

[petrotech]

Simple with no VV or VW sounds ideal. But, it's not. It's only ideal if everyone likes the same wattage. But, they don't.

All those 'simple' devices: I don't even understand what they are. I understand the old devices that gave you the voltage based on the battery level. But, these new ones are a certain set wattage, right? But, what wattage? I like 7.5 watts.

i wish they sold a 22mm tube mod that had a fixed VOLTAGE of 4.2 volts. I'd buy that all day long. lol.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Florida gulf coast, 14th floor balcony, morning Joe and HS Tab in the Nauti... nice

I wish I was there

 

[tj99959]

Simple with no VV or VW sounds ideal. But, it's not. It's only ideal if everyone likes the same wattage. But, they don't.

All those 'simple' devices: I don't even understand what they are. I understand the old devices that gave you the voltage based on the battery level. But, these new ones are a certain set wattage, right? But, what wattage? I like 7.5 watts.

Actually, the "experienced vapor" should be able to find their "ideal vape" from almost any device you hand them.
If that simple device delivers 3.7v and you want 7.5 watts you need a 1.8 ohm coil.
If it delivers 4v, you need a 2 ohm coil.

 

[DancingHeretik]

Actually, the "experienced vapor" should be able to find their "ideal vape" from almost any device you hand them.
If that simple device delivers 3.7v and you want 7.5 watts you need a 1.8 ohm coil.
If it delivers 4v, you need a 2 ohm coil.

Not if the device is set for a specific wattage. Whatever you do to the resistance of the coil is undone if the wattage is set for one that won't work for you.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding. How do these devices work? It seems that they're set for a specific wattage. That's the impression I get. Yet, they don't come out and say.

I'm confused.

 

[DancingHeretik]

Actually, the "experienced vapor" should be able to find their "ideal vape" from almost any device you hand them.
If that simple device delivers 3.7v and you want 7.5 watts you need a 1.8 ohm coil.
If it delivers 4v, you need a 2 ohm coil.

This is what I'm talking about:
It’s a 1000mAh, single button regulated cell that places 14w and 3.5A on the T18 every time the button is pressed.

I don't like 14W!!! A set voltage I could adjust for.

 

[tj99959]

Not if the device is set for a specific wattage. Whatever you do to the resistance of the coil is undone if the wattage is set for one that won't work for you.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding. How do these devices work? It seems that they're set for a specific wattage. That's the impression I get. Yet, they don't come out and say.

I'm confused.

If they're set at a specific wattage, they would only appeal to a limited market. Historically most are set at a specific voltage.

add:
Anyone that produces a mod set at a specific wattage is a dumb***
BTW by nature it would have to be VV/VW, so not a "simple device".

 

[pufZeppelin]

i wish they sold a 22mm tube mod that had a fixed VOLTAGE of 4.2 volts. I'd buy that all day long. lol.

think this is what you might seek (all day long)

it has the old 'twist' bottom spin dial to allow set wattage to output through-out battery life
THEN
on that dial it ALSO has a 'Bypass' setting that will allow full use of battery charge, as it runs out...

it is 22mm dia, and I've not seen one (yet) without the wacko cubic tank...

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- Joyetech eGo Mega Twist Plus Starter Kit

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[JCinFLA]

Joyetech eGo Mega Twist+ 2300mAh Variable Wattage Battery

Pre-order is minimum 10 pieces though.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Anyone that produces a mod set at a specific wattage is a dumb***

I disagree. A constant wattage mod is better than an unregulated at delivering a consistent vape. A simple trip to an Ohms Law calculator can help one decide the appropriate coil to use to achieve the desired voltage. The Innokin Coolfire 1 supplied a constant 8.5 watts... made an 18350 last a while...

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[AXIOM_1]

A simple trip to an Ohms Law calculator can help one decide the appropriate coil to use to achieve the desired voltage.

I never could understand why people need a calculator? Ohms law is one of the simplest and most fundamental axioms in Electronics and it is nothing more than a mathematical proportion, which should be easily memorized.

 

[ceeceeisme]

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Thank you DO! A rat conga line
There's something you don't see everyday (thank goodness!)

 

[redeuce]

You won't find many in this thread who have forgotten that and we MTLers continue to sing the praise of devices like the Innokin T18, Aspire Nautilus, Protank and Ego Ones... all great devices for noobs and pros alike!

My bad. I forgot this is the tootle puffers section, lol.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

I never could understand why people need a calculator? Ohms law is one of the simplest and most fundamental axioms in Electronics and it is nothing more than a mathematical proportion, which should be easily memorized.

Considering Ohms Law encompasses around 12 different formulas, I'm far more comfy using a calculator than making a potential mistake... I can't dismember as much things and stuff and I ewes two.

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[Bea-FL]

I look back. and have to chuckle because I was no different. In fact my first real mod was a mechanical, but at least I was already well versed in electrical applications.

Back in those days we really didn't think much in the terms of watts or temperature. It was all about volts .. ohms .. and amperage. So perhaps the learning curve was a bit easier to wrap our heads around.

But as you said you were well versed in electric applications. That makes a huge difference.

Many long time quitters forget that to a newbie, the single most important factor in someone trying to quit is to replicate the feel and satisfaction of the act of smoking as close as possible, and to find a MTL unit that puffs like a cigarette. Most units don't do that, and most newbies seem to be overly excited about getting into vaping, and get blinded by all the neat things available. You have to crawl before you walk. It's like giving a 16 year old kid who got his drivers license yesterday a new Ferrari and saying good luck.

Replicating the smoking procedure and mouth to lung method is, in my opinion, vital to the success or failure of a vaping newbie. Fellow newbies, please slow down, find a proper unit that still makes you feel like you are smoking, get used to vaping and not smoking, then and only then move on to the advanced stuff.

You are talking about throat hit here…I assume. And if so TH is not only important to newbies. There are many of us who have been vaping for a while who still consider it important. Take me for example. Been vaping for almost 3 years and the TH is still essential for me. More important even than flavor.

 

[ToolmanTexas]

One more for my peeps!