Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

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Having followed FT threads on the Gem, and even here, I'd say most individuals did not put forth an effort to learn to build the Gem correctly. Yes it is a bit fiddly, has limited deck space, needs a different 510 pin. get past that and you have a stellar little atomizer.

As for the nautilus/Kabuki rba V1 was a bit of a disappointment, the latest V2 looks promising.
VVTF KABUKI RBA DECK NAUTILUS RBA DECK V2 REBUILDABLE COILS HEADS ATTY

Yeah, I looked past the build part, most complaints were leaking or loosing the the O-rings or complete top for the fill hole. I've seen too many that can't build a KFL, so I don't go buy the buildabilty? anymore.
 

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Having followed FT threads on the Gem, and even here, I'd say most individuals did not put forth an effort to learn to build the Gem correctly. Yes it is a bit fiddly, has limited deck space, needs a different 510 pin. get past that and you have a stellar little atomizer.

As for the Nautilus/Kabuki RBA V1 was a bit of a disappointment, the latest V2 looks promising.
VVTF KABUKI RBA DECK NAUTILUS RBA DECK V2 REBUILDABLE COILS HEADS ATTY
I have the v1 Nautilus RBA, and it's working fine. I will be snagging one of the v2 here soon...

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I have the v1 Nautilus RBA, and it's working fine. I will be snagging one of the v2 here soon...

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A friend sent me one to play with and I took one look at those tiny screws and just knew it was higher than my patience ceiling. :p
 

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yea the V1 VVTF works OK, yes screws are tiny, didn't find it too bad to build, but it does not fit in any of the Kabukis I know of. The V2 looks to be a much better design, and should be an easy build.

I've had my Gem since shortly after they showed up, have never had it leak or flood, have yet to lose any o-rings, for the $20 investment I think it is a excellent buy. I sort of enjoy the odd, not so popular gear, don't mind spending a little extra time to get things right, so I guess my experience may not go with the normal flow.
 

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Kronos FTW!
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Could this be coiled at around 2 ohms and vaped (MTL) at ~ six to seven watts?
 

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I really dislike Gearbest, and it may be more trouble then it is worth, but they had the Hotcig VS not to long ago.

As for the three you mention, I'm going against common opinion, but the FEV 3 just never did it for me, flavor is just a bit on the weak side, not bad, but not as good as many others. I've found no matter the build or placement of coil it ends up being slightly muted.

Horizon is better on the flavor department, and can be had with a nano set up which is a plus for me, also offers some pretty decent air flow options with a decently large range, unfortunately the range is accomplished with grub screws blocking off 1 or more of the 4 ports with grub screws, extremely tight air flow being accomplished with 3 blocked, fourth with a center drilled grub. little fiddly but works well enough.

couple things I don't care for with the Horizon, both fixable, but annoying enough to make worth mention. The juice feeder holes are a bit on the small side for High VG liquids, it will work but tends to starve just enough to be noticeable unless you get wicking just right. Easy fix would be to run a drill through them, which I never did get around to.

The second issue, the top of the chamber is a plate, and held in place with an o-ring, when it gets juicy it spins easily, which end up messing up your build. Polishing/reducing the chimney just a tiny bit, or a little tighter o-ring should fix it, just never got around to it. Kayfun type deck is a really easy build, 22mm is another + to me as well.

Finally the Kronos, my favorite of the three, Nano option, fairly short overall height, especially with nano tank, easy wicking/build best flavor of the three. Top fill capable (not the best design but works) Drop deck for easy access to build. Decent airflow with good range of adjustment. 23mm could be a negative depending on preference, doesn't bother me.

Woo, a little long winded, sorry for that..

Kronos nano tank
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Taifun GS, Horizon nano tank
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FEV3, VS
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Really nice looking gear ya got!
 

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Could this be coiled at around 2 ohms and vaped (MTL) at ~ six to seven watts?

Kronos deck is pretty roomy, I don't see any reason you couldn't, especially if using smaller diameter wire. If I remember correctly my first build in it was 3mm .26g around 1ohm. here is a couple shots of the deck

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Could this be coiled at around 2 ohms and vaped (MTL) at ~ six to seven watts?
It is fed via stainless steel mesh tubes that you roll up like little straws and put in the juice feed holes. The ends of the tubes touch the wick on the deck, the size of the hole you roll in the tube determines the flow rate of the juice. I have found that closing those type of tanks off to a MTL style of air flow will cause juice to be sucked down the tube instead of drawn by the wick. This leads to flooding the very shallow Kronos deck and leaking out the air holes.

YMMV as I don't really MTL many tanks these days and I might be trying to get too much vapor at times from a MTL setup with a too aggressive draw. :oops:
 

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Depending on juice viscosity you just use a tighter weave mesh rolled more densely when you use thin liquids. Thicker liquids course mesh, loose roll, you may have to dial it in a bit. TrollDragon, not trying to be contradictory, but think about the same system on the original GS which is pretty tight on the draw.

Yes you'll need to wick it for your vaping style, but it is not all that difficult, tight draw or loose.

I don't tolerate PG well so all my liquids are at least 70VG, I use 200 mesh with a fairly loose roll, I typically keep builds .3-.8 ohms on the Kronos, run somewhere in the area of 20-30 watts.

Taifun GS uses similar wicking method, MTL draw, even with Thin juice built correctly works fine, granted really hard pulls could be problematic, and even more compensation may be needed.
 
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That is just a great looking tank. Never had one but thinking I should :) I have this weird tank fetish or something, every time I get online I see one or two more I must have.
I know EXACTLY what you mean, we have a great love for the exotic tanks. :thumbs:
 

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TrollDragon, not trying to be contradictory, but think about the same system on the original GS which is pretty tight on the draw.

Yes you'll need to wick it for your vaping style, but it is not all that difficult, tight draw or loose.

I don't tolerate PG well so all my liquids are at least 70VG, I use 200 mesh with a fairly loose roll, I typically keep builds .3-.8 ohms on the Kronos, run somewhere in the area of 20-30 watts.

Taifun GS uses similar wicking method, MTL draw, even with Thin juice built correctly works fine, granted really hard pulls could be problematic, and even more compensation may be needed.
Funny you mention the GS II as I had dug it out last night to put a build in it. I thought there was something wrong with it as the draw was tight, even wide open. I had it gurgling but not leaking out of the bottom and I had to open the top air so I could use it. I figured that there was swarf or something that has blocked off a bit of the air channel but that is not the case.

I have been ruined by the likes of the Moonshot and Hannya RTA... :eek: :shock: ;)
 

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Kronos has 8x 1.2mm air holes, I shut it down to a single 1.2mm, I'd say similar air to the Old Kayfuns, it is loaded with 80VG liquid, 200 mesh fairly loose rolled feeder tubes. went through probably 2ml of liquid chaining it. Even with the thinner juice due to heat, and the loose rolled 200 mesh single 1.2mm air hole I didn't have any over-feeding issues.

Built for it MTL thin juice should be no issue.

Funny you mention the GS II as I had dug it out last night to put a build in it. I thought there was something wrong with it as the draw was tight, even wide open. I had it gurgling but not leaking out of the bottom and I had to open the top air so I could use it. I figured that there was swarf or something that has blocked off a bit of the air channel but that is not the case.

I have been ruined by the likes of the Moonshot and Hannya RTA... :eek: :shock: ;)

I'm one that does not mind breaking out the old stuff with tight draws occasionally. Haven't missed many of the newer release attys, Moonshot is a nice one. My current favorite is the Boreas, though I've been enjoying my RDAs more often lately, Just got a Noname Nopity, and an Aeronaut, also grabbed a $5.00 authentic Cartel Cascata #notaclone :ohmy:

BTW, I was referring to the TGS, Not GSII.
 

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Kronos deck is pretty roomy, I don't see any reason you couldn't, especially if using smaller diameter wire. If I remember correctly my first build in it was 3mm .26g around 1ohm. here is a couple shots of the deck

13U5dYT.jpg


1ee4k5i.jpg

It is fed via stainless steel mesh tubes that you roll up like little straws and put in the juice feed holes. The ends of the tubes touch the wick on the deck, the size of the hole you roll in the tube determines the flow rate of the juice. I have found that closing those type of tanks off to a MTL style of air flow will cause juice to be sucked down the tube instead of drawn by the wick. This leads to flooding the very shallow Kronos deck and leaking out the air holes.

YMMV as I don't really MTL many tanks these days and I might be trying to get too much vapor at times from a MTL setup with a too aggressive draw. :oops:

Depending on juice viscosity you just use a tighter weave mesh rolled more densely when you use thin liquids. Thicker liquids course mesh, loose roll, you may have to dial it in a bit. TrollDragon, not trying to be contradictory, but think about the same system on the original GS which is pretty tight on the draw.

Yes you'll need to wick it for your vaping style, but it is not all that difficult, tight draw or loose.

I don't tolerate PG well so all my liquids are at least 70VG, I use 200 mesh with a fairly loose roll, I typically keep builds .3-.8 ohms on the Kronos, run somewhere in the area of 20-30 watts.

Taifun GS uses similar wicking method, MTL draw, even with Thin juice built correctly works fine, granted really hard pulls could be problematic, and even more compensation may be needed.

Ahhh so it's a Genny tank.
Sure is a spiffy looking atty.The next time I'm at my local B&M and they have one,I'd buy it!

Thanks Guys!
 

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Nope, not a Genny. gravity assisted/capillary action feed. Two holes in the bottom of the tank Coil sits beneath it. You fill the holes with wicking media, Silicon, Cotton, Mesh, the juice is pulled though whatever feed method you use to the wick, or you could just place the wick directly into the holes. Mesh pretty much works the best and is the most common choice.

First picture is the Coil/wick of a Taifun GS2, second pic, though a little hard to see is the mesh feeder straws going through the hole, and lightly contacting the cotton wick.

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Mornin' folks,

I'm awaiting vape mail tomorrow. Amongst my purchases is my first kayfun (eeeek!). A staffer at our local B&M offered to show me how to rebuild.

"That's what we're here for. I'd be happy to help you."

Wow, talk about your customer service! The lesson will have to wait as this week I'm preparing for a lil road trip to 'Merica :)

Hope y'all are enjoyin' your weekend!
 

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hello all,

Well, a week from today I'm leaving on a business trip to Georgia for some training. Never having flown as a vaper (or since the TSA ever existed for that matter) I'm a bit concerned on what to do. I realize there are no batteries allowed in checked luggage and any liquids should be kept in zip-lock bags in your checked luggage but....

- I'm afraid to take anything I would hate to loose if TSA decides to confiscate it, do they do that?
- I want to have something in my carry on because there will be lay-overs, should I buy something cheap like an AIO? Maybe a cig-a-like?
- I know that any tank with liquid will leak due to pressure, what do others do? Keep some liquid handy and fill during layovers?
- How often do mods in checked baggage get stolen?

I've been dreading this trip and really wish I could have just driven... :cry:
 

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hello all,

Well, a week from today I'm leaving on a business trip to Georgia for some training. Never having flown as a vaper (or since the TSA ever existed for that matter) I'm a bit concerned on what to do. I realize there are no batteries allowed in checked luggage and any liquids should be kept in zip-lock bags in your checked luggage but....

- I'm afraid to take anything I would hate to loose if TSA decides to confiscate it, do they do that?
- I want to have something in my carry on because there will be lay-overs, should I buy something cheap like an AIO? Maybe a cig-a-like?
- I know that any tank with liquid will leak due to pressure, what do others do? Keep some liquid handy and fill during layovers?
- How often do mods in checked baggage get stolen?

I've been dreading this trip and really wish I could have just driven... :cry:

I fly a lot, I don't know if it work for you, but here is what I do. I don't travel with mods that have internal batteries (except for my AIO), but that is me just being paranoid. I put my mods (without batteries) in the bottom of my carry-on, with a couple of filled battery cases. I put my liquids in a ziplock bag. (If you need a lot of liquid, cover the top with plastic wrap, screw the top back on & put it in your checked bags). I also put my battery charger in my carry-on. The mods I take, I bought specifically for traveling, they were inexpensive & on the off chance that they are taken I won't cry too much.

I empty my tanks and wrap them in paper towels to protect from residual leakage.

In my front zipper compartment I have either an empty AIO or a small ego stick battery/ts3 or similar tank. On layovers & when I land, I fill it and vape away until I can set myself up "properly."

Remember to pack extra coils (if you're a blister pack person), or to bring rebuilding supplies. If you bring rebuilding supplies, I HIGHLY recommend that you put that in checked baggage.

Good luck.
 

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hello all,

Well, a week from today I'm leaving on a business trip to Georgia for some training. Never having flown as a vaper (or since the TSA ever existed for that matter) I'm a bit concerned on what to do. I realize there are no batteries allowed in checked luggage and any liquids should be kept in zip-lock bags in your checked luggage but....

- I'm afraid to take anything I would hate to loose if TSA decides to confiscate it, do they do that?
- I want to have something in my carry on because there will be lay-overs, should I buy something cheap like an AIO? Maybe a cig-a-like?
- I know that any tank with liquid will leak due to pressure, what do others do? Keep some liquid handy and fill during layovers?
- How often do mods in checked baggage get stolen?

I've been dreading this trip and really wish I could have just driven... :cry:
Don't put any vape gear in checked luggage. That's verboten. You can take them as carry on. It's best to empty the tanks, and carry liquid separate. If that's convenient, invert the tanks.

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By the way, I just installed tap talk on my tablet. Usually when I travel for work it's just day trips for one night in a hotel. I usually catch up on the Forum when I get home. I figured I had better keep up on things or I'll never get caught up when I return home LOL.

Just trying out the speech to text feature right now so disregard this post LOL.


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