Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
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I don't think I have used VV mode for nearly a year. In VW, however, it depends on the coil (0.33 to 2.5Ω), how long it has been in use (the gunk factor), which tank type, and what the juice flavor is, but as a general statement, it is likely between 12 to 20W. I do still have a couple EVOD/eGo-style pens that have no adjustments at all, but they rarely get puffed these days.
Okay - I've been looking and looking . . .
AND - Nowhere that I have looked have I been able to find a Chart that will tell Ya' what . . . Voltage = Wattage = Temperature . . . especially something simple and easy to understand for "vaping DUMMIES" like "Me" who cannot get their head around all this . . .
SO - To all "YOU" more knowledgeable technicians of electronic equipment and how they work when it comes to "eCigs" . . . Is there anyone who is willing to take-up the challenge and task to create such a chart . . .
Or - Even a spreadsheet (@Katdarling
) . . . 
Just an IDEA . . .
AND - Nowhere that I have looked have I been able to find a Chart that will tell Ya' what . . . Voltage = Wattage = Temperature . . . especially something simple and easy to understand for "vaping DUMMIES" like "Me" who cannot get their head around all this . . .
SO - To all "YOU" more knowledgeable technicians of electronic equipment and how they work when it comes to "eCigs" . . . Is there anyone who is willing to take-up the challenge and task to create such a chart . . .
Or - Even a spreadsheet (@Katdarling
) . . . Just an IDEA . . .
Okay - I've been looking and looking . . .
AND - Nowhere that I have looked have I been able to find a Chart that will tell Ya' what . . . Voltage = Wattage = Temperature . . . especially something simple and easy to understand for "VAPING DUMMIES" like "Me" who cannot get their head around all this . . .
SO - To all "YOU" more knowledgeable technicians of electronic equipment and how they work when it comes to "eCigs" . . . Is there anyone who is willing to take-up the challenge and task to create such a chart . . .
Or - Even a spreadsheet (@Katdarling
this one will do it for ya (W vs V calc)
if ya want to factor in TEMP, one of the other TABs will show ya (I think)
- Ohm's law
this one will do it for ya (W vs V calc)
if ya want to factor in TEMP, one of the other TABs will show ya (I think)
- Ohm's law
AH - YES, it would work (except there is no "Temp" anywhere I can see) . . .
However, I was thinking more of a simple 1 page with columns to look at with all the information that could be pulled up to view all at once, especially so it won't be necessary to go back and forth to that website every time when you want to double check or set a Temperature instead of Wattage to get a specific Voltage and/or set a Wattage to match a Temperature for the Voltage Ya' want to vape at . . .Ya' know in a Table or "SPREADSHEET" . . .
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so we have ANOTHER new one from Joyetech
kinda a mish-match of some other combo devices , or - - whatever, I don't like it...
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a little like the innokin disrupter & inn-o-cell deal, thingy
Me...I'm waiting for the Evic Basic (a Micro-Mod with a Clock) to come off Pre-Order...
Joyetech eVic Basic TC Box MOD-1500mAh - $21.99
AH - YES, it would work (except there is no "Temp") . . .
Watts/Volts/Ohms are all interrelated...you change one...the other 2 can be effected...
As I understand it (I've not yet found the need for TC)...Temperature is a setting independent of the other 3 values???
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Because you have to work within the constraints of Ohm's Law (E=IR or P=IE therefore P=E^2/R) you must provide at least two of the unknowns to find the third. Having a voltage will not get you a wattage unless you know the resistance of the coil. Then, to top that off, if you want temperatures, it depends on the material and gauge of the wire the coil is made of, such as 28g Nickel wound to be 0.5 Ohms. The same coil in Kanthal or Stainless Steel will be a different temperature for any given wattage setting.
OKAY - But there are some of us that have TC Mod's now and from what I understand Temperature is now part of the equation . . . Also - What if Ya' are "Stupid" & "Confused" like "Me" most of the time and cannot get through his thick head what is what all the time either, but I do want to know what Temperature to set to achieve say a voltage of 5 using a 2.0ohm Coil . . . (BTW: I have a real problem with setting wattages to get a specific Voltage depending on the equipment & coils I am using sometimes too . . . AND - People ask me why I don't build coils . . .
) . . . 
For ease of brain pharts...
forget voltage if you are using a TC mod and concentrate on Watts. While Watts are not directly transferable to temperature, they are a very good guesstimate. The higher the Watts for any given coil, the hotter the temperature. For example, my iJoy in TC mode, set at 400 degrees F is 31W on a 0.5-Ohm Nickel coil. I find that temperature setting to be equivalent in flavor to 20W on a 2.0 Ohm Kanthal coil. But note here that we are also talking about different tanks on different mods. I know of no easily accessible chart to give you the numbers you are looking for. If you are using TC, simply start at 350F and move up 5 - 10 degrees at a time until you find your sweet spot, just like when first trying a VW mod.
Okay - as soon as I saw the equation that was absolutely - ENOUGH ! ! ! 
I'M SO DONE . . .
As I said in "My" original post - SOMETHING SIMPLE - BASIC & In General Terms - think "DUMMIES" ! ! !
I DO NOT WANT TO LEARN HOW TO FIGURE IT OUT (especially since it is way to much information) - I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS . . .
("My" Apologies for screaming out loud, but it seems no one was listening . . .
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But Uncle, doesn't everyone own a calculator and the formulae are really very simple: Power = Voltage squared divided by resistance... I know you are smart enough to poke those buttons on your calculator. And if it really bothers you that much, just send one of us a PM with the numbers and we'll do it for ya.
Ooooohhhh... that'll never work. Too many variables. Size of chamber, size of wire, size of airflow, amount of liquid, composition of liquid, type of wire just to name a handful.AH - YES, it would work (except there is no "Temp" anywhere I can see) . . .
However, I was thinking more of a simple 1 page with columns to look at with all the information that could be pulled up to view all at once, especially so it won't be necessary to go back and forth to that website every time when you want to double check or set a Temperature instead of Wattage to get a specific Voltage and/or set a Wattage to match a Temperature for the Voltage Ya' want to vape at . . .Ya' know in a Table or "SPREADSHEET" . . .
For instance, a single 1.2 ohm coil made from 30 gauge Kanthal A1 with 5 wraps on a 2 mm mandrel installed into a Kayfun Mini 2.1 ES will have be nice and warm at 11 watts, 3.6 volts. Yet a dual coil 1.2 ohm Nichrome80, 9 wrap, 30 gauge, 3.5 mm ID in something like a Griffin 25 won't even get warm until ya hit 30 watts or nearly 7 volts.
Or, am I missing part of the question?
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Unfortunately it isn't as simple as you want it to be. I could give you a chart matching V to W for a specific coil resistance. For example, let's say 2 ohm since you mentioned a 2 ohm coil in a previous post. But the chart will be different for a 1.8ohm coil, or a 1.9 ohm coil, or a 2.1 ohm, or a 2.2 ohm coil.
I'M SO DONE . . .
As I said in "My" original post - SOMETHING SIMPLE - BASIC & In General Terms - think "DUMMIES" ! ! !
I DO NOT WANT TO LEARN HOW TO FIGURE IT OUT (especially since it is way to much information) - I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS . . .
("My" Apologies for screaming out loud, but it seems no one was listening . . .
Adding temp into it is virtually impossible. TC works by monitoring resistance changes as the wire heats up, and once it sees a big enough change to think it's at the temp you set, it modulates the wattage to maintain that temp. So the wattage is actually changing constantly. So there isn't any good way to put temp into such a chart.
O.k. Since erryone is talking TC, I'll offer my 
What I have found with TC is that it allows you to set the "consistency" of your vape. The way I inter-relate Watts/Ohms/Volts/Temperature is that for a given resistance coil-head, the Watts/Volts (or even Joules) tells me how much "oomph" will be applied to the coil to bring it to my DESIRED TEMPERATURE.
So, if I set for a vape temp/coil temp of 450F, then I will use the Watts setting (if I can alter it) to get my coil TO THAT TEMP more slowly (lower Watts) or more quickly (higher Watts). Once the coil HITS that temp, the power actually drops off (often substantially) to maintain the TEMP of the coil, not the POWER to the coil.
ETA - in normal POWER mode, the Temperature will keep RISING the longer you hold the POWER level. This is why kanthal is not TC wire nor Ni/Ti are not POWER wire. The latter two will become unsafe if their temperatures rise around or above 600F
What I have found with TC is that it allows you to set the "consistency" of your vape. The way I inter-relate Watts/Ohms/Volts/Temperature is that for a given resistance coil-head, the Watts/Volts (or even Joules) tells me how much "oomph" will be applied to the coil to bring it to my DESIRED TEMPERATURE.
So, if I set for a vape temp/coil temp of 450F, then I will use the Watts setting (if I can alter it) to get my coil TO THAT TEMP more slowly (lower Watts) or more quickly (higher Watts). Once the coil HITS that temp, the power actually drops off (often substantially) to maintain the TEMP of the coil, not the POWER to the coil.
ETA - in normal POWER mode, the Temperature will keep RISING the longer you hold the POWER level. This is why kanthal is not TC wire nor Ni/Ti are not POWER wire. The latter two will become unsafe if their temperatures rise around or above 600F
Thanks Shawn for saying what I was aiming at but couldn't quite get laid out... that is, no way to make a simple chart for temperature because of all the variables that simply cannot be accounted for. Now, if Uncle provides one of us (you more so than me because you are better at this than I am) with the mod, the tank, the coils, and the juice, then we can make a "best guess" at the temperature chart, but if the user then changes the air flow rate, the chart becomes garbage. Is that about right?
If you have an Android phone, this app can help...
MicroCoil Pro (Swiss VP) - Android Apps on Google Play
It's also available on iPhone, but I have no link.
The upper left quadrant of the app screen displays w/mm2 and color codes it. Blue is cold, orange is warming up, green is good, red is hot.
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MicroCoil Pro (Swiss VP) - Android Apps on Google Play
It's also available on iPhone, but I have no link.
The upper left quadrant of the app screen displays w/mm2 and color codes it. Blue is cold, orange is warming up, green is good, red is hot.
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No cell phones for me at all... and I take the easy way out for TC mods. I just move the temp around until I get the vape I like and leave it there until I change my juice flavor.
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