Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

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There are quite a few of us who use and love our Berserkers, either the full size 24mm and/or the 22mm Mini. I have a stash of both sizes and love them. They've become my all-time favorite tank since I started using my first one about 5 weeks ago.

Wow, only 5 weeks? But, I know what you mean. People like me that thought they were settled for the long haul are being blown away by some of the new stuff and re-stocking up all over again.

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I got all of my 24mm ones from EightVape.com and all of my 22mm Minis from FT, using the MAP code. They're the cheapest I've found anywhere. At FT, using the code, it drops the Minis from $44.99 each to $26 and change for the SS, and $27 and change for the colors. The Gold ones are usually always ships in 7 business days, but the others are usually in stock or Ships Next Day.

I just got my first Berserker and put a build in it today. It's so easy to build on! And, it tastes great!

I already ordered one of the 24 mm from the Eightvape sale. I would have ordered another if they weren't out of black. I don't have many mods that can use 24 mm. So, one SS and one black is all I need. The rest are going to be the Mini (22 mm).
 

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I don't have many mods that can use 24 mm.

I didn't think I did either. But, since I don't mind a tiny (maybe 1mm) tank overhang on mods...I've found the 24mm even looks good on my little bitty COV Mini Volt 40W, the very small Yosta Livepor 60W mod (shown in @ToolmanTexas pic on the Berserker Mini thread), and on the small COV Mega Volt 80W mod. Haven't even gotten out other mods to check the 24mm on them yet. So you might be surprised which ones you have that it might be OK on, too.
 

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I had a commodore 32, then the 64, then went to a Tandy.
I started with a Tandy Coco3. then a 286, and on from there. I had to use an external tape drive for the Coco3. It was horrible. But, I did get my intro to programming, kind of.

By the time I got the 286, I was in the middle of a semester of C.
I started using a computer in the early eighties with DOS, WordStar, Lotus 123 and two floppies. I forget the capacity of the disks but it was minuscule and we thought it was great. A ten mega byte hard drive was a dream come true, a "Rodeo" external drive through read through the parallel port with a printer port in the back of the case. Good days.
I started using floppies around the time the HDs came out (1.2 & 1.44 mb). A hard drive was about a dollar a mb. $400/400 mb, which I couldn't afford at the time.
Yea...but...but...all the devices yunz guys/gals are reminiscing about were "real" (although early) computers...

WebTV was just a black box (literally) that you plugged into your phone line...surfed the World Wide Web (using its wireless keyboard)...and used your TV for its screen...:shock:

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I remember hearing about WebTV, but never tried it.
All the PC mags back then had programs you could copy, and I'd sit for hours doing that. I don't think I ever got one to work, but I'd do another, cause, man, I was computing. :D
I used to do that too! Was great fun. Especially the games. Mine would work after a bit of trial and error and editing.
Those were the days! I really hated Windows at first. Lots of false promises. It didn't do what they said it did. Until XP.

I really miss the total control of DOS.
 

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I agree about DOS. My favorite setup was DOS 3.3, WordStar 5.0 and Lotus. I took forever to go to Windows and that was Windows 2000. I finally was forced to change when some research software I used quit supporting DOS, everything became graphical, required huge amounts of space and memory - for the time.


I started with a Tandy Coco3. then a 286, and on from there. I had to use an external tape drive for the Coco3. It was horrible. But, I did get my intro to programming, kind of.

By the time I got the 286, I was in the middle of a semester of C.

I started using floppies around the time the HDs came out (1.2 & 1.44 mb). A hard drive was about a dollar a mb. $400/400 mb, which I couldn't afford at the time.

I remember hearing about WebTV, but never tried it.


Those were the days! I really hated Windows at first. Lots of false promises. It didn't do what they said it did. Until XP.

I really miss the total control of DOS.
 

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It's as if you've mastered a language in a new world then they hide it away, not to be spoken. Edlin and batch files were my friends for years.

I hated Edlin, I found it so cumbersome. WordStar had a text editor and I used it. I had a whopping 512 Kb Ram and used a batch to set up a Ram Drive to load part of the WS program so it was fast, man, fast.
 

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All the PC mags back then had programs you could copy, and I'd sit for hours doing that. I don't think I ever got one to work, but I'd do another, cause, man, I was computing. :D

Sold a couple programs to those, one in BASIC, on in ML/Assembler. Nothing fancy, just some small utilities.

Tape drives were functional, but slow. Then the floppy drives came along and the world got faster ;) (The Commodore floppies held more than the DOS ones of that time!)

Didn't move to DOS until v5, the last good one, and agree that Windoze wasn't really prime time 'til XP :)

The command line is still there, even in Win10, although well hidden from most, and crippled in functionality
 

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I hated Edlin. WordStar had a text editor and I used it. I had a whopping 512 Kb Ram and used a batch to set up a Ram Drive to load part of the WS program so it was fast, man, fast.
But, WordStar put in extra formatting characters. Totally unsuitable for programming. It wasn't a simple text editor. It was a word processor. Or am I remembering right?
 

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But, WordStar put in extra formatting characters. Totally unsuitable for programming. It wasn't a simple text editor. It was a word processor. Or am I remembering right?
It had two modes, text and document. The document mode inserted codes even if you did not enter a "dot" command. The text editor mode was just plain vanilla text only. When I discovered that, batches became a breeze for me. Edlin took more patience and care than I had.
 

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I was a late comer to the world of computing,I never felt the need to own one,after much bugging by my friends I broke down and had one built for me. An AMD AthlonXP 2500+,a gig of Ram and a 40 gig harddrive with a cd burner running Windows XP Home.I spent 1600 dollars on that box.Fast forward to now,I wish I'd have bought one much,much sooner.:)
 

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I never knew squat about programming, just not my thing really, just tried to copy what was already in print. I've built my own computers in the past, that is easy to do. I realized later that for what I needed, off the shelf computers suit my needs, but I can add ram, change out power supplies, sound cards, and video cards if needed.
 

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I was a late comer to the world of computing,I never felt the need to own one,after much bugging by my friends I broke down and had one built for me. An AMD AthlonXP 2500+,a gig of Ram and a 40 gig harddrive with a cd burner running Windows XP Home.I spent 1600 dollars on that box.Fast forward to now,I wish I'd have bought one much,much sooner.:)
I would have been like that if it weren't for going to college off and on and being curious about computers. I had no need for one in my everyday life. I just love to learn. It even took me a while to take a computer class because there were SO many beginning classes to choose from.

Eventually I became determined and started calling to ask about what classes I saw in the catalog. When I finally got the response that a class was too advanced, that nobody started with that one, that's when I knew. It did have a prerequisite, but only math, not computer. I wanted to cut to the chase. I'm so glad I started when I did. I got to see the basics before they got buried/hidden.
It had two modes, text and document. The document mode inserted codes even if you did not enter a "dot" command. The text editor mode was just plain vanilla text only. When I discovered that, batches became a breeze for me. Edlin took more patience and care than I had.
Wow, I don't remember ever knowing that. Actually, I never really used any plain text editor too much in those days, not once I started using Borland's IDE for C. That was a kickass text editor. We did play with Edlin in HexEdit though. Changing colors and names of commands.

We also loved to play with and collect old programs, like older versions of PC Tools/Shell. I loved to collect all kinds of older editors, shells, menus, etc.
Sold a couple programs to those, one in BASIC, on in ML/Assembler. Nothing fancy, just some small utilities.
I wonder if we ever used any of your utilities. We played with a lot of them. Some were incredibly useful.
 

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I already ordered one of the 24 mm from the Eightvape sale. I would have ordered another if they weren't out of black. I don't have many mods that can use 24 mm. So, one SS and one black is all I need. The rest are going to be the Mini (22 mm).
I didn't think I did either. But, since I don't mind a tiny (maybe 1mm) tank overhang on mods...I've found the 24mm even looks good on my little bitty COV Mini Volt 40W, the very small Yosta Livepor 60W mod (shown in @ToolmanTexas pic on the Berserker Mini thread), and on the small COV Mega Volt 80W mod. Haven't even gotten out other mods to check the 24mm on them yet. So you might be surprised which ones you have that it might be OK on, too.
I ordered the rainbow Berserker after all. I did find 2 more mods that NEED 24 mm atties. One of them NEEDS the rainbow. You were right.

So, I have two 24 mm coming from Eightvape. I called to have them add it to my order to avoid extra shipping. Then, I'll eventually get a black 24 mm.
 

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I hated Edlin, I found it so cumbersome. WordStar had a text editor and I used it. I had a whopping 512 Kb Ram and used a batch to set up a Ram Drive to load part of the WS program so it was fast, man, fast.
I started programming assembler on an ICL System 4. Biggest mainframe money could buy, it had 256K of memory. You wrote your code on paper, had it converted into punch cards, and took the deck of cards down to the computer room for the operators to feed in.
 

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I started programming assembler on an ICL System 4. Biggest mainframe money could buy, it had 256K of memory. You wrote your code on paper, had it converted into punch cards, and took the deck of cards down to the computer room for the operators to feed in.
Punch cards? That takes me back. I never used them. But, my mother did. I got to go to work with her one time in a locked computer room. It was full of machines with reels of tape. She sat at a console that used punch cards.
 

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