Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

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I do a disk image, manually, monthly, to external drives. Yes, two. And automatic weekly backups of data folders, to a third external drive and to a second internal drive. (The internal isn't ideal, as it's subject to frying if, say, the power supply goes badly awry, and of course may be subject to any bug that hits the C... but as a third copy of essential data, is ok :) )

Not a cloud fan, either, partly because I really have zero confidence in the "security" any of them tout, and partly because, out here in the sticks, I just don't have the net speed to make it bearable. Sorry, backing up 500 gig over a 1.5MB dsl connection just doesn't work!
 

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Check on the police solicitations, find out how much of each dollar goes to the police. It will shock you.

That's a scam. When they call me, I let them go on and on about the Microsoft viruses for a while.... Then I tell them I use only Apple products and ask how they can help me.

I really love making telemarters and scammers hang up on me, LOL. We haven't had the "Microsoft" call in a while. But one work luncheon I was bored and a lady talked to me at length about "helping me with my credit" and I told her upfront that I would be giving out ZERO information, and then she went through her "stealers schtick" for about 40 minutes, and asked again after she "softened me up" and she hung up on me. It was fun at the time, but I think they also measure "time spent" on the phone, as I still get those ones. LOL.

I really really don't enjoy turning down the police on their annual fund drive. I HATE it, but I refuse to give them money etc. It always seems to be me that gets that one, not the husband, and I always refuse to give them money, but I cite implausible (sometimes true) happenings that prevent me from donating a red cent.

Because.... There was no "Social work" union or whatever, calling around to "Fund" ME, and as far as I was concerned, I was getting paid to work, as are cops.

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I do a disk image, manually, monthly, to external drives. Yes, two. And automatic weekly backups of data folders, to a third external drive and to a second internal drive. (The internal isn't ideal, as it's subject to frying if, say, the power supply goes badly awry, and of course may be subject to any bug that hits the C... but as a third copy of essential data, is ok :) )

Not a cloud fan, either, partly because I really have zero confidence in the "security" any of them tout, and partly because, out here in the sticks, I just don't have the net speed to make it bearable. Sorry, backing up 500 gig over a 1.5MB dsl connection just doesn't work!

I have never done disk imaging, how does that work, might be good to know.
 

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Special software is used, some commercial, some free. Simple to do, just step through the menus and tell it to image (sometimes called clone) your C drive to a suitably sized external drive, and wait. And wait, and wait some more, depending on how big your C drive is, and whether you have USB3 or not.

Most of the imaging software will let you restore individual files, as well as the whole shebang.

Acronis True Image is good, commercial. Easus TODO Backup is also good, free :) (Both of those are Windows progs, but may have versions for other operating systems.)
 

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Yep. Two kinds of computer users. Those who have had a hard drive crash, and those who will.

It's not just vaping where backups are essential!!

I do a disk image, manually, monthly, to external drives. Yes, two. And automatic weekly backups of data folders, to a third external drive and to a second internal drive. (The internal isn't ideal, as it's subject to frying if, say, the power supply goes badly awry, and of course may be subject to any bug that hits the C... but as a third copy of essential data, is ok :) )

Not a cloud fan, either, partly because I really have zero confidence in the "security" any of them tout, and partly because, out here in the sticks, I just don't have the net speed to make it bearable. Sorry, backing up 500 gig over a 1.5MB dsl connection just doesn't work!
I agree with the backups, "And" backups of your backups. :) I backup data files daily to a second drive (the DW's computer backs up to my computer also), then those backups are copied to a 4TB drive on my office computer in the house next door. I use a program called "Second Copy" which only copies the changed files, so speeds up the backup. I also image all the computers once a week except for my work computer which gets imaged every weekday.


Special software is used, some commercial, some free. Simple to do, just step through the menus and tell it to image (sometimes called clone) your C drive to a suitably sized external drive, and wait. And wait, and wait some more, depending on how big your C drive is, and whether you have USB3 or not.

Most of the imaging software will let you restore individual files, as well as the whole shebang.

Acronis True Image is good, commercial. Easus TODO Backup is also good, free :) (Both of those are Windows progs, but may have versions for other operating systems.)
I use AOMEI Backupper Professional to do my imaging. It cost a little bit, but does a great job, even if the drives are a different size. I cloned 2 of my computers from a 1TB drive to 256GB SSD drives for C, then put the 1TB drives as a second drive in each computer, worked like a charm. Also with this program, you can mount the backup and access it like a hard drive to look at, or copy data from, which is nice.

I can never stress this enough with computers or vaping, "Backup's of your Backups of your Backups" :D
 

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I'd like to clone my current hd for when it fails. I want mirrored image with all my programs and operating system, so I can swap it out quickly and be up and running. I haven't searched in awhile for such programs.
 

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I'd like to clone my current hd for when it fails. I want mirrored image with all my programs and operating system, so I can swap it out quickly and be up and running. I haven't searched in awhile for such programs.
The one I mention in the post above yours does that, but it is not free. There may be a free one out there, but when I was looking this time last year, I didn't find one that I felt would do what I wanted.
 

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I'd like to clone my current hd for when it fails. I want mirrored image with all my programs and operating system, so I can swap it out quickly and be up and running. I haven't searched in awhile for such programs.

I know that Acronis will do that, as it's saved me a couple times. Most recently (a few years back), my C drive started tossing errors.... but would be ok (for a day!) after repair... So I got a new drive, made a fresh clone and installed that to the new drive. Swapped it into the case, and back to normal.

I think Easus will, but haven't tried it yet :) (It says it will.)

The key is to have a current clone, or you'll lose what's been done since the last clone.

And most of the clone progs I've seen will do an update to the clone, backing up only the changed files it finds.
 

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There are two threads I really get a kick out of, though not posting much these days. One being this one and the other being the shinyitis. Mostly because they're so free wheeling and open ended and no one complains that they're off topic. Dig it. Go with the flow. LOL.
 

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I know that Acronis will do that, as it's saved me a couple times. Most recently (a few years back), my C drive started tossing errors.... but would be ok (for a day!) after repair... So I got a new drive, made a fresh clone and installed that to the new drive. Swapped it into the case, and back to normal.
I think Easus will, but haven't tried it yet :) (It says it will.)
The key is to have a current clone, or you'll lose what's been done since the last clone.
And most of the clone progs I've seen will do an update to the clone, backing up only the changed files it finds.
I use Carbonite for files. I'll look into Acronis for full cloning. Biggest fear is loss of my bootable files and all my software programs. Thanks David.
 

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    I do use the cloud a lot. I guess I am a cloud chaser after all...

    I signed up for Microsoft Office family edition several years ago. It's $10 per month, but that gets me and 4 additional members of my family the full MS Office Suite (Word, Excel, Publisher, Outlook, Access, One Note, etc), and 1 TB each of cloud storage. It works with my laptop and my phone pretty seamlessly. I can take a pic with my phone, and access it on my computer in a few seconds. I can create a doc on my laptop and view or edit it on my phone when needed. Everything on my computer and my phone are automatically backed up as quick as they're created.

    I feel like it's as secure as most any other service. But, remember that I'm the guy that thinks security in this day an age is a myth. They've even learned to scan through the tinfoil hats...

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    Many moons ago, and being completely "COERCED" by a certain DPL, I realized the validity of backing up to the C: Drive. Yes, the C: Drive.

    I keep my working files on an external drive. (let's call it F, cuz welp, it's my F drive... no lewd intended) ;)

    Should the hard drive decide to venture into the unknown, I've got everything on a working external.

    In addition to that, I back that up to a second external, which is plugged in/plugged out (immediately) and stored away away from the computer.

    Woiks for me!



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    Mornin. A pretty sleepless nite for me. Damn, I hate those, and I was doing pretty good until the time change. I have too many nites that I can't sleep at all anymore. I don't dare try taking a nap, or I definitely won't sleep tonight.
    I have a Jac Sandstone loaded in my cart, waiting to see what discounts might be sent my way. I'm waiting on the Berserker Mini from FT to get here, it has been shipped, so maybe a couple more weeks, and I will be putting that on the new Jac.
    G'day y'all. :)
     

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