Top air RTAs

[Tim Wiseman]

Bought a bunch of 'em for side by side comparisons. So far, I have the following:

Wotofo Sapor 25
OBS Engine
OBS Engine Mini
OBS Engine Nano
OBS Engine II
GeekVape Zeus
GeekVape Zeus Dual
Kaees Solomon 2
Digiflavor Themis Standard
Vapefly Horus
QP Juggerknot
Augvape Intake
Aspire cleito EXO (with RBA)
smok X-Baby (with RBA)

ON ORDER:
UD Athlon

Have I missed any? If I have, speak up and I'll add it to the collections for testing.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna start building and vaping these in earnest. I'll post my thoughts...

Shawn have you seen the New Wotofo Serpent Elevate RTA, looks to have airflow like on the Ammit MTL RTA the way it gets to the coils, with air from both sides and underneath but top dual open slots rather than the MTL configuration. 24mm but single coil and looks to have a very reduced chamber?

 

[SonnyCooL]

I get ya Shawn. My comment was in no way critical of you or your reviews. I am just stating that nowadays with all the good/exceptional attys out there, if it is not exceptional (way beyond just functional or acceptable) it will go on my shelf. I'll drive an S10, but would prefer my F150. Since I have an F150, my S10 will stay on the back lot. We have good choices for attys that allow us to really be picky and fulfill pretty much every aspect of our vaping wants and wishes. So to use an atty that has a 6-8 on the flavor scale or is pretty easy to fill, or fairly easy to put in coils, etc....well, why bother?

You have done an excellent job giving an overview of these. Now, maybe you could give your subject opinion on what the top three you would recommend or buy again if you lost all of them tomorrow? That would be cool.

As users, our collective criticism or praise of an atty CHANGES the market and future development of better equipment.

those is PAID review, even their negative points will go thru some auditions before publish, sad but is FACT.

 

[DP2Raja]

those is PAID review, even their negative points will go thru some auditions before publish, sad but is FACT.

No, I am interested (and respect) Shawns reviews. I am pretty sure he is not getting paid. Even if he was, he would be one I trusted his review on any atty. I wasn't talking about the PAID reviews. But there are even a few paid reviewers that have some very good input and opinions.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Shawn have you seen the New Wotofo Serpent Elevate RTA, looks to have airflow like on the Ammit MTL RTA the way it gets to the coils, with air from both sides and underneath but top dual open slots rather than the MTL configuration. 24mm but single coil and looks to have a very reduced chamber?

Oh great... Just when I saw the light at the end of the tunnel LOL

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

those is PAID review, even their negative points will go thru some auditions before publish, sad but is FACT.

Yeah... These are paid reviews... As in, I've paid about $400 to purchase all of these for my collection. I will admit I did ask Heaven Gifts for an assist, but got blown off.

Nope... Bought every one of these out of pocket over the last several years, and I'm making diddly and squat for these writeup.

I'm doing this because I love vaping and I like top air RTAs. Period. End of story.

 

[Tim Wiseman]

Oh great... Just when I saw the light at the end of the tunnel LOL

It's safe to go towards the light, you will never reach it!

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Shawn have you seen the New Wotofo Serpent Elevate RTA, looks to have airflow like on the Ammit MTL RTA the way it gets to the coils, with air from both sides and underneath but top dual open slots rather than the MTL configuration. 24mm but single coil and looks to have a very reduced chamber?

Just got in touch with Matt at SMM. He's gonna send me one in a couple weeks.

See... Full disclosure

 

[pt91]

Just got in touch with Matt at SMM. He's gonna send me one in a couple weeks.

See... Full disclosure

Nice. That will give you plenty of time to tell us your thoughts on the juggerknot mini

 

[Letitia]

Yeah... These are paid reviews... As in, I've paid about $400 to purchase all of these for my collection. I will admit I did ask Heaven Gifts for an assist, but got blown off.

Nope... Bought every one of these out of pocket over the last several years, and I'm making diddly and squat for these writeup.

I'm doing this because I love vaping and I like top air RTAs. Period. End of story.

Thank you

 

[tailland]

I'm glad someone does EXACTLY what Shawn is doing here - a systematic overview of Top Air RTAs.

This will be a good read for customers (who do have different needs/wishes concerning the makeup of their atties), and it's probably a good read for manufacturers as well who're looking to improve their future products. After all, [Top Air] is the high-hanging fruit, and it needs to catch up to where the development of bottom airflow atties is at.

So when this is done, Shawn should somehow transfer the extracts of this thread to his "blog" page here on ecf and point people to it whenever required.

 

[VapourFlavour]

Acevape MK RTA
View attachment 775557
This is a 25mm RTA in diameter, and 40mm tall. It holds 3ml with the straight glass or 5ml with the bubble glass.

It uses an 810 drip tip, and comes with 2 of 'em. One is an over the top like the Zeus, and the other is a shorty blue resin.

The deck is a postless deck. It's raised above the juice flow ports a bit, but easy enough to build and wick although the wick is a bit long.
View attachment 775567
View attachment 775569
The wicks tuck down into slots which is fed from through slots beneath the deck.
View attachment 775559
View attachment 775561
It's got a decent amount of air. The air is nearly identical to the Dead Rabbit RTA, but a bit smaller. That is, it slants in from the top to the coils.
View attachment 775551
View attachment 775563
Where the Dead Rabbit can develop a whistle if the coils are not positioned just so, I've not had that issue with this one.

Also like the Dead Rabbit, the deck is attached to the 510 positive, so it spins when assembling the tank. That means the base has to be removed to put it all together. The chamber and the deck lock in place with tabs and notches...
View attachment 775553
View attachment 775555

The vapor and flavor are what you'd expect... Decent, but not mind-blowing.
View attachment 775565
If you already have the Dead Rabbit, there's not much compelling here. If you are looking at the Dead Rabbit, consider this a close competitor.

That was some great info!
When you finally get the Juggerknot mini that you ordered, place your wicks so they are just in the chamber keeping them at a height that they're above the deck screws. I see a lot of reviews where they're overwicking, this info came straight from Pierre at QP Designs, every build like that wicks perfectly. You're a lot more experienced than me so please don't take that the wrong way, just trying to help. I've been using mine for 6 weeks now and like it better than my engine nano for flavor

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Now I see the Advken CP TF RTA, too...

 

[Tim Wiseman]

Now I see the Advken CP TF RTA, too...

Isn't that bottom airflow though?

 

[VapourFlavour]

Now I see the Advken CP TF RTA, too...

Isn't the Hurricane V2 top air flow? If so, go for a clone.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Isn't the Hurricane V2 top air flow? If so, go for a clone.

Nope... All pics indicate bottom air.

 

[SonnyCooL]

Yeah... These are paid reviews... As in, I've paid about $400 to purchase all of these for my collection. I will admit I did ask Heaven Gifts for an assist, but got blown off.

Nope... Bought every one of these out of pocket over the last several years, and I'm making diddly and squat for these writeup.

I'm doing this because I love vaping and I like top air RTAs. Period. End of story.

wondering why u jump in ? are you " THOSE " , i don't force nor assume you are one of them, but look like you jump in straight without even reading it, that i can't help.

 

[DP2Raja]

Relax Sonny...Cool. Be cool. There must be some misunderstanding...on your part.

 

[Tim Wiseman]

Relax Sonny...Cool. Be cool. There must be some misunderstanding...on your part.

Whiskey, Brandy, What's your tipple? the only explanation i can think of, i have read back a dozen times and he seems to be in a different conversation!

 

[DP2Raja]

Whiskey, Brandy, What's your tipple? the only explanation i can think of, i have read back a dozen times and he seems to be in a different conversation!

No kidding. I am so confused by both his comments because they just don't relate to anything that has been posted. I keep thinking that I'm missing something, but then I think...no, I'm not the one commenting from outer space.

 

[t8kiteasy]

Thats right perfect set up,well almost ?