It's funny, it might be a build selection. I'm able to tin it turned down like barely an eighth and it's quiet, but it is a restrictive DL, which is OK by me with the juices I use for it. I couldn't figure out those rankings of most to least restrictive.
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It's funny, it might be a build selection. I'm able to tin it turned down like barely an eighth and it's quiet, but it is a restrictive DL, which is OK by me with the juices I use for it. I couldn't figure out those rankings of most to least restrictive.
I rarely build over 3 mm on any of my tanks except for the single coil clamp on the original Pharaoh that needs a 3.5 or bigger coil. The Intake is about as restrictive a tank I can see. It's sounded from my misreading the Elevate was even more. That I couldn't use. I don't understand why they're making these with all those extra parts. I agree with you, it's just more stuff to lose.
What's the ID?I am using mine with a single coil and loving it. I just used a slightly bigger coil than on the single Zeus. And I don't use high wattage usually between 25-35 watts. The coil is Demon Killer Staple staggered fused Clapton .36 ohm 4 to 5 wraps spaced and I can't use this while driving. The vapor would block my vision. Flavor is great.
As usual ymmv.
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I have a question that could be asked in many places but here's a place as good as any since I see most of you are concerned with flavor. How many times do you hear reviewers make reference to flavor in relation to the coil's distance from your mouth? Notwithstanding other factors which they seldom discuss. For instance, certain RTAs with long chimneys are known for their flavor (Kayfuns, et al). Of course, the coil is a long way from your mouth on these RTAs. So.....when a reviewer says that "this is a short tank and the coil is close to your mouth so the flavor is great!", should I just go and get my KFs and be done with it? "I" meaning all viewers. This question is simplistic but I never hear them discuss all the parts that come into play.....chimney length, chimney diameter, AF to coil, coil to mouth.....that maybe with a different build you can get the same flavor on a different RTA? Idk, maybe I'm asking for mechanical drawings but some of the manufacturer's drawings of airflow patterns look questionable.
Okay, thx. I don't usually buy a lot of premade. But it seems that a 3.5mm would bring you closer to the AF on that. I'm asking because I have a Zeus single sitting here that I haven't built yet. And I'm starting to get discouraged. I might skip over to the Elevate. I'll get to the Zeus, I'm sure.
I have the Zeus single I don’t remember what coil I have in there but it vapes nice. No issues with it. I have the Elevate too. They really don’t vape that differently.
I got the Elevate going and I'm liking it several hours in. It has the features I like: falls right in the middle of wide open lung hitters and mtl. This is with the AF fully open. Works for me. Top AF that performs well. The coil placement/side AF is perfect. Postless deck with leg cutting tool a plus. Bubble tank. Size, Looks. What else? The flavor is good judged by a juice I've used in other tanks. It's picking up on a subtle note that didn't come through on the others. I'm pleased. Thank you @Shawn Hoefer for all the research put into this.
I'm using the Elevate with the bulb glass. Seems pretty sturdy. And I'm liking the Elevate. I'm always looking for something with shorter tails but I'm enjoying this. Could be my wicking but if I chain vape I do start getting some dryness.
Sounds good, Letitia. I'm thinking the Solomon and the Juggerknot will be next for me. Then maybe I'll try some dual coil ones.
Help me out here. From what I can see/understand, the air is entering through the barrel of the chimney?
Usually a smaller chamber will give more intense flavor. The chimney length also will affect the airflow and flavor. Typically for flavor without worrying about clouds one way or another then a smaller chamber with a shorter chimney will generally be a good approach for flavor. Really a lot like with rdas as well. The issue is it all balancing out the airflow. Designs for low airflow mtl and higher airflow dl type tanks will need different approaches for flavor so it can be tough to compare the two.
From that photo it looks like the air enters slots cut in the top of the chamber angled down at the coils. Other top air setups do that as well like the Dead Rabbit.
From that photo it looks like the air enters slots cut in the top of the chamber angled down at the coils. Other top air setups do that as well like the Dead Rabbit.
So, pardon my stupidity. Maybe I can't tell from the drawing but wouldn't the chamber be surrounded/immersed in juice like most other tanks?
Well, let's stop sighing and let's see it! Uh oh, the honeycomb. Can't resist the honeycomb.
So you can see in that tank there is effectively a dual domed chamber. The inside is kept separate from the juice and the air travels the space between the two chambers. The Engine 2 does that and channels the air from the air slots on top between the two "hulls" if you like that are keeping the juice from flooding that internal chamber and then directed up from under the coil. In the DR there is a direct connection cut through to allow airflow with angled slots pointing down. There's a direct connection between the two which is why the deck has to spin when assembling the tank as the chamber can't, it's "fixed" to the outside air slots.
It's the reason following the geometry of the airflow can be harder to see than the simple up from the bottom we're used to. As always keeping juice from flooding the chamber containing you coil and wick is required. How it's done with a top airflow pattern can be simple or all complex and convoluted. There are lots of attempts at solutions to the same problem. Getting air from the top down instead of drawn up from the bottom.
Thank you. Initially, I didn't see the dual chamber but I get it now. It must be the very light grey area. Sorry for being such a bugger. I've always been the tinkerer who loves to take things apart and see if I can put them back together again. I just didn't get it from the drawing. The photos of the Solomon V3 are great because of the interchangeable inner domes. You get to see how the concept works. I like that!
Some of these top air designs get really weird creative at rechanneling the airflow path that even in a cutaway view if the slice shown isn't quite clear on the path it looks like magic.
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