Toxins in the Electronic Cigarette--Reporting by Our Member--Big Jim

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Harry Crazington

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And I would like to emphasize on your notions on not curing cancer or any major disease is a conspiracy. It is not. America and other countries have led the battle to cure many diseases and treat others. Cancer is the toughest because of its nature. I've studied this and continue to do so in a State University.

So in the end, I agree with you. And everything else seems legit. But withholding cures for cancer and major illnesses ..... eh ..... not such an intelligent claim.

Yaa well there already is a cure for cancer, and many other diseases, and has been for some time, and it's being withheld from us, see here ...
YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 1 of 7)
 

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I would have to disagree with this statement. I am one that is very addicted to nicotine, and I have chewed nicotine gum for years. It was a life saver. Yes, there is the act of inhaling that is pleasurable, but I go through bad physical withdrawal from stopping nicotine intake. So to me, nicotine is the more addicting part. The act of smoking I can get over much faster.

PS- edited to add..I still don't buy into the whole "nicotine" is "so addictive"...I think the ACT of smoking is what is addictive, b/c it is a habit and your use to it..

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Yaa well there already is a cure for cancer, and many other diseases, and has been for some time, and it's being withheld from us, see here ...
YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 1 of 7)


Yeah, I saw a post on that a couple of weeks ago...very interesting to say the least!

Has anyone here tried that?

If I ever get cancer I will for sure...I don't want to do chemo b/c that kills your immune system..the point it is to kick UP your immune system...

I think plenty of veggies and fruits is a good preventative medicine against cancer..

I don't think ANY of us get the right amt of veggies and fruits EVERYDAY...
 

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Hey BigJim,

Nice video...I did not watch all of part 2, but did you know that Phillip Morris and the company that makes the gum/patch are actually owned by the same company? atria or avatria... It is really disgusting how disillusioned the public is...it is a now win situation for us with the options they provide...the e-cig is the solution and they do not want to lose these $$$... they make me sick!!!


Peace...
 

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There are thousands of scientists and researchers working tiresly to find a cure for cancer. Do you really think they're all part of a big conspiracy? We may not always appreciate the tactics employed by Big Pharma - they're a business, they want to make money - but I don't believe them to be the epitome of evil, faceless mega-corps that people make them out to be. They're people, too, people who have had friends and family affected by cancer. I'm sure they'd be jumping up and down if they had a cure.

So, if you get cancer, just chug down your big, fat multi-vitamins and eat lots of fruits and veggies and see how long you last.

Let's not discredit this forum with junk akin to UFO conspiracies. :evil:

No offense.
 
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There are thousands of scientists and researchers working tiresly to find a cure for cancer. Do you really think they're all part of a big conspiracy?
Nooo...they're just doing a job for a paycheck, the conspiracy runs way higher than they'll ever see. Anyway if a cure or reasonable panacea were released on the world then several million people would be out of a job and many big businesses would be out of billions of dollars of income.
It's all about the money, not our health or safety.
They want us to be sick, that's how they make money.
 

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I don't think there is a conspiracy to keep people sick, but if you are a smoker and end up in the hospital with lung cancer prepare to be treated like s*** by EVERYONE there. They do mistreat smokers and do not fund research on lung cancer even though it kills LOTS more people than breast cancer (which is funded to the max). I did hear about some effective drugs that prevent lung cancer, but they aren't releasing them because they don't want to encourage people to smoke. It's this funny kind of logic that makes it seem like a conspiracy at times.

Here's some intersting cancer facts (released by those "conspirators"):

Johns Hopkins Update - Good article



AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY ('TRY', BEING THE KEY WORD) TO ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHNS HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY .

Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins :

1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.
2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime.
3 When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumors.
4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle factors.
5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and including supplements will strengthen the immune system.
6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastrointestinal tract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc.
7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.
8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.
9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.
10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.
11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs to multiply

CANCER CELLS FEED ON:
a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts. Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in color. Better alternative is Bragg's amino or sea salt.
b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soy milk cancer cells are being starved.
c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.
d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).
e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer fighting properties. Water-best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.
12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines becomes putrefied and leads to more toxic buildup.
13.. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.
14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Florescence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs, etc.) to enable the bodies own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.
15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor.. Anger, unforgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.
16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.

1. No plastic containers in micro.
2. No water bottles in freezer.
3. No plastic wrap in microwave.

Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in its newsletters. This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well. Dioxin chemicals cause cancer, especially breast cancer. Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic. Recently, Dr. Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Cast le Hospital, was on a TV program to explain this health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers. This especially applies to foods that contain fat. He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body. Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food. You get the same results, only without the dioxin. So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc. He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons.

Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.
 
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Great video Jim! Other than the jab at Fox News.....

I took a jab at Fox News in jest. :D That's because I have a friend who was an animator for the Simpsons and we both always took jabs all the time at Fox. It ended up getting on the show (Simpsons always jabbing at Fox). :)

Now, as for running for Congress, to everyone else, I think I'll pass. Remember, if PRO is equal to PROGRESS, what is CON equal too?

You get the idea. ;)
 

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BigJimW,
Thank you so much for the great videos! ProtoType asked you a direct question and I hope you don't mind answering. Where did you get the $500 million figure from? You mentioned electronic cigarette sales already topping $100 million this year. Are you suggesting that every $1 spent on electronic cigarettes takes $5 away from the government, big tobacco or big pharma?

I am on board with most of your ideas, and feel you are doing the community a great favor by "telling it like it is", but I don't want our arguments to lose merit because of emotionally derived "statistics".

It's really a shame that the media outlets won't show THIS side of the story. Great work!
 

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BigJimW,
Thank you so much for the great videos! ProtoType asked you a direct question and I hope you don't mind answering. Where did you get the $500 million figure from? You mentioned electronic cigarette sales already topping $100 million this year. Are you suggesting that every $1 spent on electronic cigarettes takes $5 away from the government, big tobacco or big pharma?

I am on board with most of your ideas, and feel you are doing the community a great favor by "telling it like it is", but I don't want our arguments to lose merit because of emotionally derived "statistics".

It's really a shame that the media outlets won't show THIS side of the story. Great work!

It's easy to figure out. Based on one person who totally gave up analogs for vaping. If this person smoked 2 packs a day, at $7.00 a pack, that is $14.00 a day. Multiply that by a week, that is $98.00 a week. For the first half of 2009, at 28 weeks, that works out to $2,774.00. Just in ONE person quitting analogs altogether and vapes.

Now, e-cigarettes grossed over $100 MILLION just in this year alone in this country. I figure that at least, at the figure I see from the profits, at least 500,000 people turned to vaping. Not an unrealistic figure and in fact, MAY be very conservative. Multiply $2,774.00 by 500,000 people in revenue lost, it adds up to $1,387,000,000.00

Even the one pack a day smoker at $7.00 a pack, $7.00 a day * 7 days = $49 a week * 4 weeks = $196 a month * 7 months = $1372.00 lost per person. Multiply THAT by 500,000 and you get $686,000,000.00

My $500 MILLION figure is actually quite conservative.

Just remember folks, the United States is now getting an erection to ban them. The simple figures above proves why. I don't feel the need to explain it any further.

Either way, Big Biz lost a ton of money. And that is why they are worried and want to ban the e-cig.

Are you suggesting that every $1 spent on electronic cigarettes takes $5 away from the government, big tobacco or big pharma?

Yes I am. Because that is exactly what it is doing. If you knew how much money I saved so far, it would make your head spin.

VAPE STRONG!
 
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We just need company's even big tobacco i don't care who it is to get in the game. We need you to make better ejuice for us all. Better tasting more flavors i wouldn't mind giving my hard earn $ to a US based company.You can tax it put labels on it i don't care. But don't sit there and tell us that's its not safe when you can buy a pack of cancer sticks at any local corner store!

Step up and make a good product that i can buy at my local store and you will make a ton of money and have a customer for life !!!!


I love my e cig and you cant do **** about it!!!!!!!! :evil:

Sorry just a little upset with all the F.D.A B.S
 
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