TPA RY4 Double ~ Halo Tribeca

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Cyrus Vap

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I've been trying to figure out Halo Tribeca for a while now.

Its become a bit of a unicorn for me. I do like the juice, but I don't love it. Or I guess it has something that I love, hence the obessession.

My sense of its flavor profile is basically: caramel, vanilla, something nutty. My first instinct was hazelnut. Maybe a dash TA or EM

My own experiments with FA caramel, TPA toasted almond, and recently Cap Hazelnut and caramel all yielded vapable stuff, but still not right

The other day I got my double RY4 and the second I smelled it, I was floored. It smells exactly like Tribeca to me. I was wondering whether Halo was just that lame, or Linda was that good at emulating flavors :)

Anyway, mixed up a batch at 10%. Almost right. I'd say 90%. It was missing sweetness, intensity, and what I can't describe better than broadness

Increased to 15%. More intense, a tad more sweet, not broader or fuller. Also picked up a bit of a chemical tone, though it does need to steep more. I added 3 drops of EM (10% in PG) to 5 mls. Don't yet have the cojones to add vape wizard.

Its so close its driving me NUTS. But its not yet right. What's off is still

sweetness: maybe EM will fix it. I really don't think its sucralose in there, so I don't plan on trying that
nuttiness?/caramel-ness?: def nothing in the above that I tried, not sure what to do here.
broadness: no idea, we'll see if EM gives it body. this might be the same ingredient as the nutty/caramel

if you like tribeca, or care to give feedback, please chime in. I'd love to have a dirty cheap Tribeca clone that we can share with the vaping world!
 
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Just revisited Tribeca on a 3.7V device with my favorite prototype atty from Vapage. Initial flavor impressions after a long hiatus:

Tobacco base notes very similar to TW Camel.

I get more honey notes than caramel. I am not experiencing a tickle I normally get with caramel also. Could be a clue?

Possibly picking up some graham cracker notes though they are in the background.

Much sweeter than I remember though I vape DIY exclusively now and do not sweeten.

If I were trying to dupe I would start w/TW Camel, honey and then maybe graham cracker. YMMV as taste is so subjective. :)
 

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You could be dead on. Its def very sweet, and that's a big part of what I'm having trouble with. So far EM and Splendex don't fit the bill.

What is TW (pardon my ignorance? :) )

I could totally see something graham crackerish as well. The only thing in that ballpark I have is acetyl pyrazine and my one experiment with it yielded straight up Fritos lol

And I could see honey working as well. Which vendors?
 

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For my tastes, they have the best tobacco flavorings, some almost dead on for Halo juice. My all day since July is their patriot range m/boro. Be advised they have other m/boros and are a far cry from the patriot!

I had Linda's honey but traded it. As I remember it was sweet on its own. I really like her flavorings and it's hard to go wrong w/TPA.

FritoS? Not in a vape! :laugh:
 

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If you are able to wean off sweeteners I think you will find your attys last a whole lot longer. The sweeteners really seem to add to the carbon build up. I found sweeteners to blow out my taste buds quickly. Best way to describe it was I would get a very sour taste in my mouth that was hard to clear.

From that old thread, I found my Freedom dupe and it has saved me a bundle. I have over a years supply for my DIY needs. I use 1 drop/ml.
 

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Alright, got something real nice going finally!

50 drops (large dropper) nicotine/VG/PG base 20 mg/ml nic, way lower than my usual, but the explosive TH that I love was interfering with my experiments :)

24 drops (small dropper) RY4 Double

3 drops (small dropper) acetyl pyrazine

absolutely freakin delicious. to me its halo tribeca, without the solventy halo base (haven't decided if that's a good thing or not)

EDIT: I'm going to convert these drops into precise units...now :)
 

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yes sir, I'm confused to say the least.

But I had three bottle lined up, one with 6 drops, one with 12, and one with 24.

I played for a long time and the 24 bottle was the winner. Adding caramel and EM didn't hurt, but it didn't really nail it. A drop of cappucino wrecked one bottle. A drop of tobacco absolute wrecked it more lol.

Then I started with the acetyl pyrazine which had ruined a cigar blend ( I was desperate and out of ideas) of mine by making it taste like corn chips, and some how in this mix it took on a totally different character. Kind of graham cracker-ish/nuttish.

keep in mind this is a high VG mix (50%), which is actually low for me, I usually go around 70% VG, so that's a big part I'm sure
 

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You could be dead on. Its def very sweet, and that's a big part of what I'm having trouble with. So far EM and Splendex don't fit the bill.

What is TW (pardon my ignorance? :) )

I could totally see something graham crackerish as well. The only thing in that ballpark I have is acetyl pyrazine and my one experiment with it yielded straight up Fritos lol

And I could see honey working as well. Which vendors?

Did you dilute the Acetyl pyrazine correctly ? SHouldnt be getting fritos . You should be getting a barely noticable bready ,graham cracker taste. Your supposed to dilute 2 drops of AP into 5ml pg then use 1 drop of the dilution in 5ml of PG. One 4ml bottle of AP should make like 100 gallons
 
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