Thanks dready- yeah I did the mustard, salt and ammonia fume and checked it every couple of hours and nothing, for 24 hours. I repeated 3 more times. I have no clue what the problem could be. I'll just have to stick with alcohol ink me thinks.
Tried my hand at forced patina
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Penny, this place has some interesting products. Sculpt Nouveau - Patinas and Metal Finishes I was having a heck of a time with the brass too. I ordered a couple different patina formulas from them and did some tests. I can always use it on metals for jewelry too. The tests turned out OK so far. When I get the doors made and clear coated I'll snap a pic.
My brass door turned fairly quick. Did you sand it or at least rough it first?
I fumed it and sprayed it with the mix of sea salt and ammonia.
The ammonia was an off brand at my local grocery store and I used regular sea salt (not pink or blue) in two attempts and then regular table salt for the last two attempts. I even tried the salt and vinegar chip method and that did nothing.
Yeah I sanded it. The only thing I can figure is maybe my ammonia sucks.
My experience is Walmart ammonia is not strong enough or is stale or something like that. Also, I think you don't want to use an iodized salt. Use a sea salt of some sort instead of table salt. That could be the problem too.
I think mine was fumed for about 6 hours. An Egg patina would be about the same duration I'd think. Also, when I clean and try another attempt I clean with vinegar in between.
I think mine was fumed for about 6 hours. An Egg patina would be about the same duration I'd think. Also, when I clean and try another attempt I clean with vinegar in between.
That's interesting. I didn't come across a recipe for the s&v chip method taking that long. But that would definitely explain it.
Thanks for the tips caveat. I'll look for a better ammonia although I don't think there are a whole lot of choices out there. This will be my third bottle of ammonia lol!
My best results came from the ammonia I bought at Lowe's. I also tend to use the Pink Himalayan Sea Salt. Came in a little grinder. I grind it up real small and mix it with the ammonia in the spray bottle and keep the brass from drying out. If I think it's not developing color, I'll sprinkle some salt directly on it after spraying.
I hadn't mixed the salt with ammonia for the spraying. I'll try that. It should only take a couple of hours to see results correct?
Yeah. I'll usually kick one off when I get home from work and let it dry over night. Unless I forget to take it out until morning.
I had a chance to try it this weekend. It's awesomesauce! I did both oven and flame on both brass and copper with the rainbow patina and I was sooo excited about the brass. It looks delish. I think heating it with flame looks a lot better on both. Just gentle all over flame heating, not like flame painting. The brass came up quick with a few coats and stayed as is. The copper kind of faded, so I'd make whatever first and then treat it and seal right away. I did a second treatment on the copper and it faded as well but it looks purty!
Ooooo...thanks for letting me know glasseye. You have to post some pics, would love to see those! Hubby is going to make me some more copper doors when he gets a chance at work, and a stainless door as well, so I'm waiting on those.
Here are some quick pictures with the Rainbow patina. I like the flamed ones better, but to be fair, the metals weren't perfectly flat and neither was the old cruddy cookie sheet, so you can see where the patina puddled (user error to be sure). Also I wouldn't do that in a home oven too often or it could eat away the coils.
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