Truly legitimate question for Provari owners.........

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Rangertrix

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How many of you Provari owners own a standard size and a Mini and why?
I have had a standard size for a while now, and it is just that.......my standard. It vapes so well, that I judge everything else by it.
I want something new, but at the same time maybe something slightly smaller than my standard with a Russian 91% on top.
I posted asking for recommendations, but got a minimal response. After thinking about it, I am looking at getting a Mini and putting a Russian or kayfun on it in nano mode.
My standard size in 18490 mode has been great. I am thinking of getting a Mini with an extension cap so I can use all sizes between the two.
I am trying to decide if there is justification to buy a Mini, or if I am just trying to satisfy an urge for something new?
Is the Mini really that more compact, or am I just fooling myself?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
 

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I have two standards and one mini and if I could go back, they'd all be minis. GR Modders sells a set of two extension rings that will turn a mini into an 18490 or 18650. One ring and the extension cap will get you to 18650 too. You can turn a mini into an 18650, but you can't turn a standard into an 18350. :)
 

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I only own a mini, which i mostly use in 18500 or at home in 18650 mode
with a tatroe base or kir fanis extension.
However i do appreciate the 18350 mode. For dress-duty or a night in the
town i prefer this. Sure the batteries don't last long, but then i carry a battery
case with two extra 18350.
The mini is a tiny bit smaller than the standard size in 18650- and 18500-mode,
which also is a plus for me.
What i like best about the mini is the gorgeous drop-design though.
Makes my mouth water just looking at it.

Is it worth it, if you already own a standard? Only you can answer that question.
How much is that smaller mode worth to you?
Regardless, i think a provari can never be called a bad investment.
 

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Not too long ago I saw for the 1st time in person a Mini in 350 mode at a B&M..

As I suspected, those things are tiny!


Yeah, the dimensions are listed at ProVape's website, but you really do have to see it to truly know..


If I had more money & vaping was more of an expensive hobby of mine, after getting a 2nd full-size, I'd consider getting a Mini if I wanted a 3rd.. I don't like 350 batteries, but I suppose the tiny size would come in handy in certain situations...

Also not a huge fan of the tear-drops.. I like the crop circles better


Anyway, keep in mind, that this is coming from somebody whose full-sized 2-month-old ProVari has yet to be used in 490 mode... :laugh:
 

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How many of you Provari owners own a standard size and a Mini and why?
I have had a standard size for a while now, and it is just that.......my standard. It vapes so well, that I judge everything else by it.:laugh:
I want something new, but at the same time maybe something slightly smaller than my standard with a Russian 91% on top.
I posted asking for recommendations, but got a minimal response. After thinking about it, I am looking at getting a Mini and putting a Russian or Kayfun on it in nano mode.
My standard size in 18490 mode has been great. I am thinking of getting a Mini with an extension cap so I can use all sizes between the two.
I am trying to decide if there is justification to buy a Mini, or if I am just trying to satisfy an urge for something new?
Is the Mini really that more compact, or am I just fooling myself?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

If you define it in terms of how tall your pocket is versus the height of your vape, its a huge difference. The mini is awesome and great for people that don't want something that sticks way out of their hand while they vape around the vape ignorant (like at work) or those who don't want their $200 mod falling out of their pocket on their tiny jeans.:D

If you're worried about battery life, carry a couple extra batteries in a tube next to it, Neither the mod nor the battery tube will stick out of your pockets.

The alternative to a provari mini is a box mod built to be similar in size to a pack of smokes. Pretty convenient size that most american pockets can handle.

I like tiny things, I carry a tiny vc 14 carbon steel damascus lock blade and a fennix LD01 flashlight (70 lumens) in my coin pocket, and a provari mini in the standard pocket. It all takes up less than a pack of smokes and lasts all day come rain, shine, or snow. Your results may vary.

Not going to lie though, the MVP takes up very little space for how long the battery lasts. MVP is my pick for 2.0 ohm impedance vaping under 4.5v even over a provari mini if I'm working 12 hour shifts. The reason the MVP takes up so little space for so much run time is it runs TWO 2600mah batteries in series, so no volt stepping required for 80% of the charge.

I wish the provari came out with a 7.4v mod that had the efficiency of the MVP with its "stacked" internal battery design. My custom built 500mah 7.4v MPV is the same size as the aero tank it attaches to. The cells I put in it can be charged at 2.5 amp without damage as well so it charges the tiny capacity it has in waaaay less time than my IMR batteries that can only charge at 1 amp, if I don't mind damaging them.

If the custom modified MVP could run lower impedance or run over 4.5v stable, I'd love to sell my provari mini. However, when you have to have the best or 1.5ohm vaping, the provari mini takes the cake.... and you take extra batteries.

Also, the provari mini is not mini in weight at all. I wish they had made it out of aluminum or something to capitalize on the much lower weight cells it uses. Its just as heavy as the big boy which was a huge design oversight to me. If the cell weighs half as much, holds half as much, and is half the size... the mod should follow suit. The provari mini weighing as much as it does is a real deal breaker for me in the end and probably the main reason I will end up selling mine. To truly call something mini, it should be reduced in all aspects of size. Not just the physical size but the weight too. There's no reason for something using a state of the art extremely light weight battery to be so damn heavy and called mini. Its a vaping contradiction :facepalm:

But hey, not everyone is a "light weight backpacker" like I am and considers these sorts of things so as always your results may vary. It will definitely fit in places much easier and have less of a tendency to fall out of your pocket with a big ol aero on top of it.


So to answer your question, yes it is just something else to buy. Is it worth it over a 500mah 70c lipoly cell conversion and custom built box for an MVP? That entirely depends on your needs and preferences. Even a standard MVP is a tough competitor for my pocket.

Good luck on your decision I hope I confused you thoroughly! lol If you don't consider the weight or capacity, it definitely fits in your pocket better than the standard provari.

If the provari mini is considered by the same standards as cell phones, blue tooth speakers, headphones, etc etc etc or any piece of electronics we carry around. It is a complete failure to accomplish any step forward since the provari standard.

I look at my provari mini like a tiny dog (i'm not even a tiny dog kind of guy). It is cute, it is annoying, it is relatively useless, but I love it for what it is.


What is the truth behind the provari mini if its not any "better"? They use the same manufacturing, tooling, and processes to produce it as the standard provari. It is pure profit and is a way to breath life into the old provari standard. It is far from an advancement in terms of progress. So yes, it is definitely just something else to buy not something to need or gain anything from.

As always though, its art and who can really put a value on art? I buy provari hoping they'll get their act together and stop wasting all our invested time and hard earned cash in their American jobs building it. However, sadly they haven't made a single step forward on this model other than it fits in your pocket and their manufacturing and tooling can stay in service just a little bit longer to twist that last nickel and dime out of it. Good luck Provari, your future looks bleak from an outside perspective looking in but then again they seem to already know this based on their actions.

This is evident as the cost and wholesale prices behind the mini have not reduced although from a machinist's/engineers perspective it should have in the case of the poorly designed mini. Or rather, the "chopped" provari standard as I call it.
 
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I have a Mini with the extension cap, which I use at home. When I'm out I use it in "mini mode". 15 millimeters aren't a world of difference, but some pockets are just a little bit smaller than others.

And when I get my Tatroe with extension ring, I believe I can use 18650s in it too, if I combine the Tatroe extension ring with the Provari extension cap. (At least I hope so.)
 

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I have two standards and a mini ... all with extension caps and plenty-o-Tatroe rings. Can use them all in 18650 & 18490 mode, only can use the mini in 18650/18490/18350 mode.


gotch23 said:
The mini is a tiny bit smaller than the standard size in 18650- and 18500-mode, which also is a plus for me.
What i like best about the mini is the gorgeous drop-design though...

Is it worth it, if you already own a standard? Only you can answer that question.
How much is that smaller mode worth to you?
Regardless, i think a provari can never be called a bad investment.

Like KY_Rob, I own two standard and a mini. The mini is my favorite and most used Provari. I use it in 18350 mode when out of the house, and carry one or two spare 18350 AW's in a plastic battery case. I have been known to add one or two Tatroe extension rings for more battery life for home use. Having said that, all three Provari's get used at some point during the day.

Mini Provari 2.jpgMini Provari v2.jpgProvari2.5.jpg


Blue standard (18490 mode) and black Mini in 18350, 18490, and 18650 mode using Tatroe extension rings.
 
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Also, the provari mini is not mini in weight at all. I wish they had made it out of aluminum or something to capitalize on the much lower weight cells it uses. Its just as heavy as the big boy which was a huge design oversight to me. If the cell weighs half as much, holds half as much, and is half the size... the mod should follow suit. The provari mini weighing as much as it does is a real deal breaker for me in the end and probably the main reason I will end up selling mine. To truly call something mini, it should be reduced in all aspects of size. Not just the physical size but the weight too. There's no reason for something using a state of the art extremely light weight battery to be so damn heavy and called mini. Its a vaping contradiction :facepalm:

But hey, not everyone is a "light weight backpacker" like I am and considers these sorts of things so as always your results may vary. It will definitely fit in places much easier and have less of a tendency to fall out of your pocket with a big ol aero on top of it.
I'm personally very happy the Mini is built with the same heft and durability of the Standard. They differ only in their length and default battery size. To make the Mini out of aluminum just to make it lighter would detract from its overall durability.

If you find the Mini too heavy to your liking, I can give you my address and you can send that tank of a mod over my way. Then get yourself a Segelei Mini ZMax. I can guarantee it will be lighter in your backpack and lighter in your wallet.

Segelei Mini Zmax and Mini Provari.jpg

Mini ZMax and Mini Provari
 
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I'm personally very happy the Mini is built with the same heft and durability of the Standard. They differ only in their length and default battery size. To make the Mini out of aluminum just to make it lighter would detract from its overall durability.

If you find the Mini too heavy to your liking, I can give you my address and you can send that tank of a mod over my way. Then get yourself a Segelei Mini ZMax. I can guarantee it will be lighter in your backpack and lighter in your wallet.

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Mini ZMax and Mini Provari

The aluminum/steel no matter what is only as durable as the pretty finish IMO. A moot point. The mini should be lighter, but its not.

I carry a custom MVP on my backpacking trips, its naked no case no nothing. It hates life and I often have to ground the static charges out to another device such as my phone to get it to fire but it keeps on running lol!

Besides my demands for a more high performance modern electronic device, my point is that there's not a single other improvement to it. A shame really that they seem to be milking every last drop out of the standard unit rather than improving their device.

For example: What modern device doesn't charge via micro USB? I'd much rather see that than a chopped tube. The main reason I carry an MVP on backpacking trips is to charge it off of a peltier device, solar charger, or hydrogen reactor (brunton).

In fact, my MVP actually charges directly off of solar and peltier voltages interestingly because the voltage regulator in the MVP is BEEFY. I just wired it straight in, no micro usb required.

I appreciate the Provari but I personally don't plan on recommending or keeping my mini as its not an improvement at all. Its a fashion statement, a way to stand out among other Provari owners. The latest model not necessarily the best or most useful.

I love my collectors edition mod but one is enough :) no need for hording lol.
 
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