Trying to create "ultimate" tobacco vape with minimal coil gunking

[CoilMeister]

I put an order in at Bull City Vapor. The descriptions are what I gathered from reading various places:

VT nicotine (very clean nicotine with no after taste)
INW S'Camel (Analog like.. )
INW Little Space Drops/ L.S.D. (Strong tobacco with walnuts)
INW AM4A (Amphora) (Complex pipe flavor: tobacco, caramel, fruits/raisins, chocolate, coffee all blended smoothly)

Bases/Additives
INW Virginia TA (tobacco + ash)
INW Dark Tobacco (tobacco)
INW DNB (ash)

I was going to order HS RY1, Red USA and Indian tobacco too but they were out of these at the time.

I'm receiving my order tomorrow. I'm planning to mix S'Camel, L.D.S., AM4A and Dark Tobacco at the recommended dosages. Then steep them two weeks, then taste. Then add Virgina TA in all, steep two more weeks, taste. Repeat the same with the DNB by mixing it in all. Crossing my fingers here

That's some good solid choices, FYI on The tobacco absolute Virginia, I would recommend 6-8 drops per 10 ml not 10-15 as recommended by the manufacturer.

Kurt

 

[Chinook]

That's some good solid choices, FYI on The tobacco absolute Virginia, I would recommend 6-8 drops per 10 ml not 10-15 as recommended by the manufacturer.

Kurt

Thanks Kurt for the FYI. I was thinking 12 drops per 10 ml for the TA Virginia but I'll go with your suggestion. I can always add more later.

Do you think 2 weeks is a good steep time for the TA Virginia?

Cheers.

 

[CoilMeister]

Thanks Kurt for the FYI. I was thinking 12 drops per 10 ml for the TA Virginia but I'll go with your suggestion. I can always add more later.

Do you think 2 weeks is a good steep time for the TA Virginia?

Cheers.

2 weeks is good.

Kurt

 

[Chinook]

I'm puzzled about the Virginia TA! There are many particles floating in it. I posted more here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/477601-inawera-few-reviews-172.html#post14368192

 

[dannyv45]

I'm puzzled about the Virginia TA! There are many particles floating in it. I posted more here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/477601-inawera-few-reviews-172.html#post14368192

I've seen that with TA desolved in PG. It's better to prepare the TA in a 50/50 solution of PG/PGA so it gets me to wondering if that's the process that inawera uses. Try heating it give it a good shake and they should desolve.

 

[Chinook]

I've seen that with TA desolved in PG. It's better to prepare the TA in a 50/50 solution of PG/PGA so it gets me to wondering if that's the process that inawera uses. Try heating it give it a good shake and they should desolve.

These particles look pretty jagged and very non-uniform size and shapes. They looked like more particulates then undissolved stuff. I will try heating it in warm water and see what happens.

 

[Chinook]

I asked if the vendor I got these from can ask Inawera about this...He'll let me know.

I was also wondering why there were so many INW tobacco absolutes. I thought tobacco absolute is tobacco absolute, a certain molecule like nicotine-- it shouldn't vary from tobacco tobacco I thought.

Edit: Upon further reading, I see that TA is an extract from tobacco, didn't sound like at all like a single molecule though...

 

[dannyv45]

I asked if the vendor I got these from can ask Inawera about this...He'll let me know.

I was also wondering why there were so many INW tobacco absolutes. I thought tobacco absolute is tobacco absolute, a certain molecule like nicotine-- it shouldn't vary from tobacco tobacco I thought.

Where did you get it if you don't mind me asking. If there large particles floating around then there may be an issue. I've seen where TA may cause a ring around the fluid level line on the bottle or sediment at the bottom of the bottle but large particles may be of some concern. Maybe Jim in the inawera thread can shed some light on this.

 

[Chinook]

Where did you get it if you don't mind me asking. If there large particles floating around then there may be an issue. I've seen where TA may cause a ring around the fluid level line on the bottle or sediment at the bottom of the bottle but large particles may be of some concern. Maybe Jim in the inawera thread can shed some light on this.

Thanks Danny! If you don't mind, I'll reply to this in the INW thread...

 

[Chinook]

From the bottle, my INW bottles smell like::

S'Camel, sweet, kind of artificial
Little Space Drops/ L.S.D., hard to describe, subtle, nutty little bit
AM4A , very interesting, a bit fruity, jammy, something dark and mysterious in a good way
Dark Tobacco, resiny, a bit minty
Virginia TA, NET like, very pleasant
DNB, a bit smoky with some BBQ and some other dark stuff

All in all, my initial impressions are very good especially since all these seem to be unique compared to each other.

 

[CoilMeister]

Let me know if you like the S'Camel, that's one I don't have.

Kurt

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[PaulBHC]

My only experience with TA is a bottle of Trifecta from Open Source Vapor

Open Source Vapor LLC

You can look at the ingredients list and see what Josh uses. Interesting taste but not tobacco to me. One of those car wreck flavors that you keep wanting to vape but don't know why.

I have some really good home NETs but find that they cause irritation to the roof of my mouth. I assume it is the tannin. So with that, I ordered some Seedman's and TFA flavors from Wizard Labs to puff up my nic order. Hope I find something good.

 

[Chinook]

Let me know if you like the S'Camel, that's one I don't have.

Kurt

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Sure, I will!

 

[CoilMeister]

Sure, I will!

I ended up adding S'Camel to my order just now[emoji3]

Kurt

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[Chinook]

My only experience with TA is a bottle of Trifecta from Open Source Vapor

Open Source Vapor LLC

You can look at the ingredients list and see what Josh uses. Interesting taste but not tobacco to me. One of those car wreck flavors that you keep wanting to vape but don't know why.

I have some really good home NETs but find that they cause irritation to the roof of my mouth. I assume it is the tannin. So with that, I ordered some Seedman's and TFA flavors from Wizard Labs to puff up my nic order. Hope I find something good.

That is indeed quite a mix!

I haven't had problems with irritation with home NETs. I wonder if you are over extracting or perhaps using tobacco with some additives in it. I used American Spirits Organic, 6 week soak at room temperature in PG in a small glass jar. I did this for almost a year.

 

[Chinook]

I ended up adding S'Camel to my order just now[emoji3]

Kurt

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I hope we'll both like it. It definitely smells sweet and artificial from the bottle similar to my first ever (and last) order from Halo. The addition of TA and DNB should help it too.

Where did you put your order in?

 

[CoilMeister]

I hope we'll both like it. It definitely smells sweet and artificial from the bottle similar to my first ever (and last) order from Halo. The addition of TA and DNB should help it too.

Where did you put your order in?

I ordered from Bull City, I also asked Drew if he could alert me when he gets more Hangsen RY1 in stock.

Kurt

 

[Chinook]

I ordered from Bull City, I also asked Drew if he could alert me when he gets more Hangsen RY1 in stock.

Kurt

Nice! I should do that too for RY1. I'd also like to try HS Red USA and Indian Tobacco too.

 

[Chinook]

Regarding the FA flavors,

Liked:
Hazelnut, natural flavor with a hint of sweetness

Didn't like:
Honey, more floral than honey
Caramel, chemically tasting
Pineapple, artificial tasting
Virginia, not interesting as tobacco
Cuban Supreme, not interesting as tobacco

I still have bunch of other FA flavors that I'm sampling, I'll update the list further. Cocoa will most likely be in the Liked list but I'll I'd like to vape it one more time.

 

[CoilMeister]

Regarding the FA flavors,

Liked:
Hazelnut, natural flavor with a hint of sweetness

Didn't like:
Honey, more floral than honey
Caramel, chemically tasting
Pineapple, artificial tasting
Virginia, not interesting as tobacco
Cuban Supreme, not interesting as tobacco

I still have bunch of other FA flavors that I'm sampling, I'll update the list further. Cocoa will most likely be in the Liked list but I'll I'd like to vape it one more time.

Is FA Desert Ship on that list [emoji3]

Kurt

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