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Because allowing someone to vape something without nicotine, where nicotine usually is, will breed the behavior associated with smoking, and consuming nicotine.

ahh so if that is the reasoning, then adults shouldnt let kids drink things that are included in alcoholic beverages since it will lead to consuming alcoholic drinks...
 
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next thing we will see is kids being refused the ability to purchase ice, plastic cups, coke, etc since those items can be used to create an alcoholic beverage... as long as they cant get the rum, then whats the issue? If they get the hardware and 0nic juice, whats the issue? At least they arent smoking. They allow under 18 to purchase non alcoholic beer where I live.
Ignoring the hyperbole at the start of your comment let's get down to the part I marked in bold.
We already have the government using underage vaping as ammunition against us as vapers so they can regulate it into non-existence. In a senate hearing last year Jay Rockefeller used the statement that 4000 kids in his home state of West Virginia repeatedly as an argument against vaping, he didn't bring up how many smoked, nor did he mention how many quit smoking because of vaping.
Is this what we as vapers want? The government stepping in and telling us what we can and cannot do? For myself I say no, they are already using minors vaping as a stepping stone and they won't stop there.
 

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odd how different countries have different laws regarding stuff, for example, in England it is legal to allow kids as young as 5 to consume alcohol at home, in the US its illegal ( contributing to the delinquency of a minor)... what makes the kids so different in England or US that allows this to occur? humans are humans right?
states have laws that allow parents or legal guardians to supply an underage person with alcohol in a home environment, as well as make exceptions if the alcohol is provided in a religious or medicinal situation
 
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states have laws that allow parents or legal guardians to supply an underage person with alcohol in a home environment, as well as make exceptions if the alcohol is provided in a religious or medicinal situation

how often does a medical or religious occurance allow underaged to drink enuf to become blitzed? ;) Full strength Dr. Tishnores is like 90+% ethanol... if you can get past the hi strength peppermint extract ;)
 

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Being a resident of wv, I can attest to the fact that Rockefeller is a twit, just saying. There are a ton of kids who smoke in this state, and a lot of them have their parents helping them. If vaping gets them to stop now, I am all for it....period

I'm not from WVa but I will agree that he is a twit, unfortunately he's not the only one in Washington. Sadly minors vaping can and will be used as a reason for limiting/outlawing vaping.
 
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states have laws that allow parents or legal guardians to supply an underage person with alcohol in a home environment, as well as make exceptions if the alcohol is provided in a religious or medicinal situation
IIRC, all but 5 states have exceptions to the "no underage drinking" statutes, and there are even a handful that even allow minors to drink in bars and restaurants under the supervision of a parent or legal guardian.

I'm not from WVa but I will agree that he is a twit, unfortunately he's not the only one in Washington. Sadly minors vaping can and will be used as a reason for limiting/outlawing vaping.
Doesn't WV also lead the country in smokeless tobacco use? I'm too lazy to look it up, but I work in WV and I swear every other person I run across either smokes or dips.
 

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*coughcough* energy drinks *coughcough*

No, I've drank those and lived to tell. E-liquid on the other hand. If someone were to drink one of my little vials, they'd sleep for a very long time. I don't want some young ..... screwing this up for the rest of us who appreciate and respect the technology.
 

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I don't really have a problem with it considering there are worse things they could be doing. Let's just put it this way. If vaping was around when I was a teen, I wouldn't have went through 25 years of cigarette addiction.

But from an advocacy standpoint, I really don't want them vaping if it's going to kill our industry.

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No, I've drank those and lived to tell. E-liquid on the other hand. If someone were to drink one of my little vials, they'd sleep for a very long time. I don't want some young ***** screwing this up for the rest of us who appreciate and respect the technology.

My understanding of this is that if someone drinks juice or nic base they will vomit it up before they do permanent harm to themselves.
 
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IMO, no shop should sell anything vape related to anyone underage. If I was a parent who found my underage child with vape gear and I didn't approve of vaping for my child I would do everything in my power to put a huge stink on the supplier and to change the laws so that wouldn't happen again.

I think it's acceptable for a parent to supply their child with vape gear and I really hope that option never gets legislated out.

I know there are a bunch of other issues that enter the picture too, but I haven't really thought this through that far so will leave that alone.
 
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Ok, as far as I can tell on a Federal level it is legal for people under the age of 18 to buy vaporizers and juice as long as it's 0mg.
Wikipedia said:
In April 2014, the FDA proposed new regulations for tobacco products, including electronic cigarettes. The regulations require disclosure of ingredients used in e-cigarette liquids, proof of safety of those ingredients, and regulation of the devices used to vaporize and deliver the liquid. The FDA proposed regulation would ban the sale of e-cigarettes with nicotine to any individual under 18 years of age.

Each state of course has its own legislation and it would depend on what your specific State laws dictate. Either way, I think we can all agree that anyone under 18 shouldn't be vaping, especially in public, as it gives the entire community a gigantic black eye and given how intently the FDA and everyone else is scrutinizing the vaping community it's just one less hassle we as a whole should have to deal with.

That being said, of course, vaping is probably going to be safer (less unhealthy) than smoking analogs.
 
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