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grabeard

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Just outside my comfort zone.
Glad to know someone has done it without blowing their house up. I knew that "in theory" it should work, but I'd rather be cautious untill I knew someone who has done it that has all their limbs still attached.... you do have all limbs don't you grabeard?:D As for the batts, I'm honestly not expecting much from them. I doubt highly they are really 1000mah, but I'm not going to piss and moan over them. As far as I see it they are more of a free-bee with the charger.
I've got all limbs, house, batteries, and charger intact. Do you have the vented end cap? If so, that's why Jeff vented it I think.
 

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Drozd,

OK that sounds like a good answer but I need a bit more how can we have a undesireably catastraphic battery event as you call it when we are using a protected cell that isnt supposed to happen because the cell is ( protected ) and 2nd can you give me the calculation you use to come up with this answer and are these specs you have on the Tenergy listed on there site next to the Batt they have on the market or on the Batt itself in some way to make the calculatio, and 3rd, Thank you for your help your a gentleman and a scholar thank you again.!!!
Sorry I started to respond to this last night and a storm took out my internet..
The specs on the tenergy are listed on their site and on battery junction that their max drain is <550mA (.55A)

As for the calculations I just work this problem here for max drain rate:
mah rating* C rating/1000 -> 60/C rating

so that AW LiFePo4 is capable of:
500 *10 /1000 = 5A for 60/10= 6min

but thats maximum..you can shuffle the #s around in the first part of the problem to slove for C and then divide that 60min by c to get how many minutes it'll last and multipy by 60 to get seconds divide that by say 3 or 5 and you'll get # of 3 or 5 second long button presses
so that's:
Amp draw (in mA)/ mAh rating of battery=C rating

so on stacked Aw LiFePo4 with a 510 atty at 6V:
2610mA/500mAh=5.22C --> 60/5.22= 11.49min or 689sec or roughly 230 3sec long button presses

now lets say a 4.5Ω HV atty with the same batteries at 6V:
1330mA/500mAh=2.66C --> 60/2.66= 22.36min or 1353 sec or roughly 451 3second long button presses


Now my statement about battery "events" ....really it comes down to how much do you know about your battery...companies are allowed to call a battery protected and that's different from fully protected or IC protection or even listing all the protections...so it's possible to get a "protected" battery that's protected against overcharge/undercharge...which won't do you much good if theres a short or thermal or pressure situation...some protections will still alow for the battery to vent gas (just not flames) and uses that to pop the PTC and stop the battery reaction....and safe chemistries like LiFePo4 and LiMN are made to vent gas just not flames as well..




What is the name of that dealer that supplies 3 volt AW 16340 batteries? I would like to purchase some, Lighthound only has 3.7 volts.
Here they are at lighthound: AW LiFePO4 3 Volt Lithium Rechargeable Battery
or you can get them through the AW dealer via paypal by folowing this thread (ships from hong kong though): AW's LiIon Batteries Sales Thread *Part 11* - CPFMarketPlace
 

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Ok, I got my shiny new batteries today and I used them for fairly heavy vaping for 8 hours now. They are still going strong. I have a set of aw's on the way as per Drozd's recommendation. I know my way around electronics, but he is the battery guru. Long story short, these things do a good job as a backup plan. Don't blow your face off folks!

P.S. Am I the only one who hears AC/DC's "High Voltage Rock and Roll" playing in their head while rocking 6v?.... Anyone?
 

AmyB66

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No, that's just you JC! LOL!
I vaped all day yesterday at six volts. That's about the length of it, I started the night before and by late last night the batteries had enough, so that's about how long you get on the little blue ones drozd recommends but my chuck or my carto never seem to get super hot so that is a good thing.

PS, pop the top off your 510 carto at 6V's and leave it open, top off as needed...it worked out great, one glance and you could see when it needs more before you get a hit that tells you it needs more.
 
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