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Update on BB, GJ & GB

Discussion in 'Alien Visions E-Juice' started by Wookie1, Jan 14, 2016.

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  1. Wookie1

    Wookie1 Supplier Associate ECF Veteran

    Jul 9, 2013
    Lancaster, CA
    Good Morning Everyone!

    We wanted to go ahead and post an update for you all. I wish I had some better news but so far nothing has changed. As we have mentioned before we have been going back and forth with our provider to fix this issue, the reason it has not been back up yet is because it has not been fixed. Unfortunately, it is a pretty long process because our provider does the testing on their end, then ships it to us once we get it we then test it ourselves to make sure the quality is to our standards.Unfortunately this last batch wasn't either, so we had to ship it back and start the process all over again. I assure you we are not doing this intentionally or lying to you because we have to reason to lie! We are just genuinely trying to fix our product and will have it back up for you guys. We do apologize that this is taking so long trust me we wish it would have been back up sooner! We appreciate all of your support and hope that this will get fixed soon so we can have our e-juices back up for you all!!!
     
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  2. Levitas

    Levitas Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2011
    Saint Louis
    Dearest Ben, Christy, Wookie guy in which I do not know your true name, and the rest of the AV team,

    Without any malice, I'm genuinely curious, how much are you guys losing in sales without those three popular tobaccos available for sale? A numeric cash value isn't necessary, rather, an estimated percentage is what I'm wondering.

    Of course, an absent of answer is completely understandable. I was just doing my daily Boba's check-up, and found myself asking that question.

    I continue to search for replacements to hold me over. Thus far, Nicoticket has been doing a pretty decent job. I've just yesterday started venturing onto other vendors' selections in an effort to stay my cravings. I, of course, remain vigilant in my "Want to buy Boba's" adverts via the classifieds, but as time moves along, the replies are becoming less.

    Still holding onto any hope that you may sell me a pseudo-batch, or less than perfect mix. I come to understand now that monetary gain doesn't affect you, so I now turn towards different horizons of persuasion. I've offered before, and again I do so with self-portraits in less than savory lascivious conditions. If that doesn't moisten your salivary glands, I offer myself as a personal consultant. My expertise lie in video gaming, underwater basket-weaving, or I could serve as your very own personal audio book. Choose a book, any title, and I will call you. You can place me on speaker phone, cozy up next to a fire, and allow my soothing voice to temper your mood whilst enjoying your favorite novel with your loved ones.

    I shall await your decision, though we both know that what I've offered on the table is simply irrefutable.

    Forever yours,

    Adam
     
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  3. Porphy

    Porphy Forum Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    Lancaster, CA
    Howdy Levitas!

    Good question. Philosophically I don't see it as 'lost' money since the product, or what brings you to the table, isn't there. However, that's semantics and I get what you are asking and the answer is a good sum. Less than half of normal but enough that our earnings chart, if we had one, would be in a nasty dip with some reorganization in order. The reorganizing is occurring but really we are striving to get a replacement up soon.

    Boba's and its off-shoots (Gorilla Juice and Griffin's Breath) are not going to be around anymore. We are working on recipes that match, or are similar, but they will be named something different. I've always said that if we were going to change the recipe we would change the name and that is what has to happen here. A supplier of a major flavoring in Boba's stopped doing business so the recipe for the new flavors will be made of newer flavorings (translate that as 'different flavorings' but matching). We have a good recipe being beta tested now and it's getting fairly good reviews. It is nearly identical with Gorilla Juice and Griffin's Breath when mixed and IMO only slightly noticeable in difference stand alone next to Boba's.

    So now to answer the big question: when

    We hope to have the new flavor (Flavor 39) available within the month. It'll be sold as 'Flavor 39' for awhile and then we will do what we did with Boba's Bounty and have the customers give suggestions for a new name. It's worthy of the crowd sourcing in that regard and deserves a good name like we did with Boba's Bounty. Save your guesses on a name until after we've posted the contest I'm sure we will have some awesome prize for whoever comes up with the name we go with.

    I hope this helps, Levi.

    Ben L.

    P.S. - I know I haven't been online in a hot minute. I'll make a detailed post on why that is in awhile but rest assured I'm back to keep everyone informed and to get back into 'the know' on what's current in the business.
     
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  4. Jshill520

    Jshill520 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2012
    Cumberland, MD
    Awesome Ben thanks for the update. Hopefully everything will work out for the best. You obviously know how to mix so we trust you there.
     
  5. BNEAT

    BNEAT Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2013
    Louisville, Kentucky
    OK, now I'm scared...but optimistic
     
  6. AntnyMikal

    AntnyMikal Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2014
    Clarksville, TN, USA
    Will the new mix still use the same base tobacco? Hopefully it's as good as Boba's was or close to it.
     
  7. BentWookie

    BentWookie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 14, 2013
    SF Bay Area CA USA
    Hi Ben,

    Thanks for the information. I believe this is what many of us frustrated Boba's, GB, GJ vapors have been looking for. A little straightforwardness is nice and goes a long way to allow a company breathing room in trying to correct some issues.

    In all honesty I've found other juices that keep me moving along just fine but I still miss the pre 2014 Boba's flavor and will be looking forward to trying the new one.

    ~BW
     
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  8. BentWookie

    BentWookie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 14, 2013
    SF Bay Area CA USA
    I am really curious and would appreciate an answer to this one question. The last batch of Boba's Bounty you guys sent out that tasted of coffee. Was that mixed using your new supplier or your former supplier which had been providing the flavoring for the past couple years?
     
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  9. Levitas

    Levitas Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2011
    Saint Louis
    Ben,

    Thanks for the heads up! It's nice to hear from ya again. Honestly, I'm very much excited on the prospect of a "new" Boba's. As long as it retains some of the previous flavoring, I'll likely love it the same.

    Now, my question is: availability. Not when but if. Are you guys going to make a mass bulk amount of 'Flavor 39'? Surely you know that your site is going to be destroyed via the mass-fiends craving your delicious juiciness. I don't imagine you guys will offer a pre-order of any sort, but I fear that I may miss the opening sale. I will, of course, continue to check daily for the release of this new deliciousness.

    Also, I appreciate your candid answer to my question on probable profits lost. You needn't answer, but you did, and I thank you for your honesty, sir.

    I hope that you and your family are doing well.

    Regards,

    Adam
     
  10. Porphy

    Porphy Forum Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    Lancaster, CA
    Optimistic is the best bet. What is there to be scared about?

    The coffee came to the top and was more noticeable when that last batch was low on a key flavoring. It's what let us know of the difficult flavoring issue to begin with.

    That is the plan. There is some balance between how well it will be received and how much we will have on hand. If there are any initial supply issues we have a system in place to resolve them quickly.
     
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  11. CDATundra

    CDATundra Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 29, 2010
    Idaho
    Ben............It's great to see you back. It was a very nice note that you wrote in the other thread.
    Would it be possible to have some reviews from the beta testers on the new "flavor 39"? It would be nice to hear what they think of the new flavor.
     
  12. BNEAT

    BNEAT Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2013
    Louisville, Kentucky
    How well it will be received?? Now YOU'RE sounding scared! :)

    And to be clear, I'll be ordering 200ml as soon as it's available.
     
  13. Porphy

    Porphy Forum Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    Lancaster, CA
    Nah, just a hardcore pragmatist. Opinions are subjective which means there are WAY more variables than I could ever account for. My juices are like little baby birds. I make them up as best I can but at some point I have to kick their asses out into the wild and make them fend for themselves.
     
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  14. Racehorse

    Racehorse ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2012
    USA midwest
    Sorry for your troubles, Ben.

    You guys have served the vaping community a long time, I think you were my 2nd ejuice vendor when I started vaping.

    I figure it this way: you made Bobas and you make Gorilla Juice, and I have learned in life that if you can do something successfully once, you can do it again.

    I meet people all the time who have lost everything, but a few years later, they have it all back again. :)

    It's a certain amount of drive and commitment that is required, and like I said, if you did it once, I'm sure your new recipes will be GREAT.

    Heck, they may even be better.

    While you're at it, I would also not just try to approximate what you had before, but maybe make a completely new flavor. I trust you can create yet another BLOCKBUSTER.
     
  15. Drumonron

    Drumonron Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2009
    Ok, so that wasn't too hard was it? Boba's, Gorilla Juice and Griffin's Breath are Dead! Long Live Boba's!!!

    It will be missed. Since the recipe won't be around anymore, may I ask you to disclose the lost flavoring or even the recipe itself. Who knows maybe someone in the community can help us?
     
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  16. Jshill520

    Jshill520 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2012
    Cumberland, MD
    Sadly I guarantee they will never do that
     
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  17. nostradadus

    nostradadus Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 6, 2014
    Sadly, this type of thing happens on occasion. Seedman had the same thing happen to them with their "English Tobacco" base; the company from which they purchased this base vanished and so did their access to the flavor. It happens! Perhaps it was from that same company that Alien Visions purchased their flavor base? No matter, it's gone now. At least I have 100ml of BB and GB in my reserve juice stash.
     
  18. Porphy

    Porphy Forum Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    Lancaster, CA
    Exactly so. Maybe if we weren't making similar flavors but we get inspiration for the new from the old.
     
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  19. Jshill520

    Jshill520 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2012
    Cumberland, MD
    I'm not saying I blame you lol. I just know I wouldn't expect a company to spill the beans on something this big, unless maybe you were getting outta the business or something
     
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  20. aceswired

    aceswired Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Minnesota
    Bummer on Boba's. Still the best juice I ever tasted. Nothing has ever matched its depth.

    Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk
     
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