USACIG, inc. Who??

[Boom!]

USACIG, Inc., the US-Based Manufacturer of The Electric Cigarette(TM), Ready for Global Distribution

So who are these knuckleheads? I poked around their site but I didn't see any where to actually order (not that I would) and just saw more false advertising.

example:
"Q. How long does each cigarette last?
A. USAcig cigarettes are equivalent to most tobacco filled cigarettes. This will, of course, depend on your smoking habits. Research has found that one of our smokeless cigarette cartridges last the equivalent of one pack of cigarettes. (In comparison to an individual cigarette, you will need to take anywhere between 14-17 puffs on the electric cigarette to feel satisfied. A traditional cigarette will burn down after 7-9 puffs.)"

"Q: Are smokeless cigarettes approved by the FDA?
A: The Alcohol and tobacco Trade Bureau (TTB) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have formally stated that smokeless cigarettes are not a product that warrants the involvement or oversight of either government entity. The FDA notes that electric cigarettes do not fit the classification of products it governs. The TTB (tobacco and Taxation Bureau, formally the ATF, Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms) has formally determined that the TTB has no regulatory interest in the smokeless cigarette industry because it does not contain tobacco."

Someone hurry up and let the Judge know! Case Dismissed!

Seriously, we've got some pretty clever detectives on this board. Can someone check if this is a BT or BP owned company? I couldn't find anything about this company already posted here.

 

[TheIllustratedMan]

The TTB (Tobacco and Taxation Bureau, formally the ATF, Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms) has formally determined that the TTB has no regulatory interest in the smokeless cigarette industry because it does not contain tobacco.

The who? What? When?

 

[mbolack]

Well this company's website says they manufacture atomizers in the US! Interesting... mixed in among all of the BS.

 

[lotus14]

Well this company's website says they manufacture atomizers in the US! Interesting... mixed in among all of the BS.

Actually they say all hardware is manufactured in China. Then they say the attys and carts are US made, but they're not 2 piece cartomizer styles either.

The products page looks like it's ready to take orders but it doesn't. It was built on:
"Created Mon Apr 27 13:37:05 GMT-0700 (PDT) 2009"

Even thought the Q & A states the opposite, the article quotes:

There has been much speculation recently regarding electronic cigarette companies, with similar components, not being approved and even banned by the FDA. USACIG is working closely with FDA consultants, medical doctors and psychiatrists in designing the USACIG electric cigarettes and cigars, so the products meet the TTB and FDA regulations and provide an alternative to traditional smoking.
The company intends to provide the FDA with details of the fewer than 20 chemicals included in its cartridges. All products are individually approved and available in the market. The intent and long term goal is to put an end to the harmful primary and second hand smoking affects the some 4,000 carcinogens currently found in tobacco cigarettes give to smokers.

Perhaps they're waiting on Judge Leon. or to get approval by the FDA?

Curiouser and curiouser...

 

[Boom!]

Perhaps they're waiting on Judge Leon. or to get approval by the FDA?

Curiouser and curiouser...

Same thing I was thinking.
I'm still trying to dig something up using their address listed. Trying to get lucky and find a parent company name or something.

 

[larcat]

Q: How often will I have to refill my cartridge?
A: One cartridge will last the user about the same as 2 regular packs. Based on how frequently the smoker uses TEC cartridges will have to be refilled.

L-O-L



The Electric Cigarette
Airport Towers Plaza
2082 Michelson Dr., Suite 306
Irvine CA 92612
Phone: 1.866.331.3244
Fax: 1.949.335.0604

E-Mail: info@USAcig.com

 

[larcat]

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Browser Update Page)
Domain Name: USACIG.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS19.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS20.DOMAINCONTROL.COM


For complete domain details go to:

 

[ladyraj]

No such thing as TTB, if the ATF were renamed their website isn't aware of it. Seems to be a Crown7 distributor.

 

[larcat]

Nothing shows for USACig in the California Sec. Of State database. It is a DBA for someone, and the domain is registered via Domain By Proxy. Can someone do a search on the phone numbers?

Regardless, I'm 99% sure this isn't anything more than a blow-hard marketer of chinese e-cig stuff.

-Larcat

 

[Boom!]

We should report them to the ECA (taken from the ECA Misson Statement)

The association was founded to institute and promote industry-wide standards and a code of conduct, work to maintain sound professional practices, educate the public and policy-makers on the industry’s activities and potential, and ensure the ethical use of electronic cigarette technologies.

Maybe THIS is what they do?

<ducks>

 

[olderthandirt]

The who? What? When?

The who anyway
TTBGov

EDIT: Sent an e-mail to usacig asking for a citation that supports the statement on their site regarding the FDA and TTB

"...have formally stated that smokeless cigarettes are not a product that warrants the involvement or oversight of either government entity. The FDA notes that electric cigarettes do not fit the classification of products it governs. The TTB (Tobacco and Taxation Bureau, formally the ATF, Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms) has formally determined that the TTB has no regulatory interest in the smokeless cigarette industry because it does not contain tobacco.

 

[wellfedned]

This points to cooperation with the gov. In a way that hasn't been considered by most of us. I wonder if the company that is advertising on fox and cnn is also involved the ttb and have found the right approach to keeping things legal?

 

[Our House]

It feels like this is a conscious effort to degrade the industry. Seriously, who willingly writes this stuff:

"Q: Are there health benefits to TEC?
A: Yes. For yourself, there is no harmful tobacco or tar entering your body. For others, there is no second-hand smoke. Also, TEC will in fact help you quit smoking all together.

Q: What are my Electric Cigarette smoking options?
A: TEC comes in an array of flavors all at different dosages. So whether you feel like the chocolate flavor one day, coffee the next, or just the regular, smokers have a variety to choose from."

...and then puts up press releases all in one day (today, the 26th) without even having a cart/checkout system on the site??

"Healthier? Yes" "Quit smoking all together" "Array of flavors" "Different dosages" It's like they're TRYING to score points against us and for the FDA.

Is this for real?

 

[larcat]

It feels like this is a conscious effort to degrade the industry. Seriously, who willingly writes this stuff:

"Q: Are there health benefits to TEC?
A: Yes. For yourself, there is no harmful tobacco or tar entering your body. For others, there is no second-hand smoke. Also, TEC will in fact help you quit smoking all together.

Q: What are my Electric Cigarette smoking options?
A: TEC comes in an array of flavors all at different dosages. So whether you feel like the chocolate flavor one day, coffee the next, or just the regular, smokers have a variety to choose from."

...and then puts up press releases all in one day (today, the 26th) without even having a cart/checkout system on the site??

"Healthier? Yes" "Quit smoking all together" "Array of flavors" "Different dosages" It's like they're TRYING to score points against us and for the FDA.

Is this for real?

I'm pretty sure it is not for real. A real corp leaves a MUCH wider swath on the internet when they file and set up shop.

My guess is it is an individual wanting to cash in on e-gold.

That or Banzaf

-Larcat

 

[wellfedned]

I would like to see if you get a reply on the request for the citation.

 

[BigJimW]

I'm pretty sure it is not for real. A real corp leaves a MUCH wider swath on the internet when they file and set up shop.

My guess is it is an individual wanting to cash in on e-gold.

That or Banzaf

-Larcat

I was thinking the same thing. Looks like a "set up" shop to "prove" ASHs allogations.

"See your Honor, I told you they sold to kids with their flavors and it says it will help you quit smoking!"

And with the domain registered through a proxy registrant, it makes it even more suspect.

 

[Kamanjah]

Found nothing on the TTB site when I searched for "electronic cigarette" and "electric cigarette" - besides, it's the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau division of the US Department of the Treasury. The only thing with the remotest possibility of being related to PVs is 27 CFR Part 41, Importation of Tobacco Products and Cigarette Papers and Tubes. I followed that link to a list of kazillion requirements, but the entire page contained to reference to "electronic cigarette" or "electric cigarette".

This USACig bears watching!

Oh yeah, I agree with whomever said ECA should contact them!

 

[wellfedned]

No word on that citation request?

 

[olderthandirt]

No word on that citation request?

Nothing yet. Be surprised if I do get a reply...

 

[wellfedned]

Oh you must have missed my sarcasm. Kinda new to this non confrontational form of communication. (i too am nearly as old as dirt) i really would be surprised if you got a reply. But i would love to know what this company is all about! Pretty bold claims about gov. Cooperation.