USPS refused to ship my eliquid

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ShelleyF

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This is exactly why I just print the USPS labels online and then drop it off. 0 Questions :D

I print my labels off at home too but then request a free pickup, lol I also sell on ebay so the mailman is used to coming to my house and talking to me. I mark everything I sell with a red sharpie in big capital letters FRAGILE all over every box, and envelope I ship. So he would never question it. I would rather makr fragile on everything so it don't get as dented as it would have if I didn't. I used to not do that and more things got banged up so this way is better for me. Also I use tons of tape to secure all packages and as annoying as that is to have to open it that is another reason why I do it, lol so the post office workers don't get too nosy. lol
 
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How do you figure that? They are running at a loss and have been for several years. They are paid by the federal government. The federal government's source of income is our tax dollars. So yes, our tax dollars do fund the USPS.

I actually see this as a bit of a positive. I hope the USPS can survive but being forced to pre fund their benefits now means it is one less thing my daughter and her children will have to pay for in the future. The only way to keep our children and the children from being saddled with enormous debt is for us to suck it up today and do what has to be done.

Mail 5 days a week is fine with me as are increases in fees. I want my grandchildren to be free of this huge burden of debt.

How do I figure? The USPS revenue is stamps and packages and services (PO boxes and whatnot). Not the federal government. The federal government does give money to USPS -- reimbursement for disabled services and mail delivery to our military/soldiers. I see that as money for our troops/extended SS for our disabled/blind Americans. I'm sure others don't see it that way.

Because of the pre-funding mandate, the USPS is forced to borrow money from the treasury, to pay its 'debts' ... to the treasury. Those 'debts' are the payments that Congress is forcing it to make on behalf of people not even BORN yet.

It's really quite silly.

The USPS "bailout" would consist of loosening up the 75 year pre-payment requirement. It's not a bailout in the same sense that we bailed out those banks. Other relief comes in the form of Congress not micro-managing the USPS, by letting the org makes its own restructuring and delivery decisions. Like we now have the impending 5 day per week delivery (works for me! some vapemail should still make it through on Saturday! Yeah!).

Last time I checked, the money that USPS 'owes' is nothing compared to our national debt. Having the USPS pre-pay retirement money isn't going to make it any easier on our children/grandchildren. The USPS is not our problem. We have plenty of those. :p

Just as an aside, the money our government pays the USPS for service to the troops or disabled people is no different than grant money given to a landlord who provides low income housing. Just as an aside.
 

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Just as an aside, the money our government pays the USPS for service to the troops or disabled people is no different than grant money given to a landlord who provides low income housing. Just as an aside.

Not sure what exactly you're getting at there...

Subsidized housing is the same as making sure our troops get mail?

I'm not following.
 

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It will make a difference if all those tiny things are changed. Got to start somewhere..

That is how we got to where we are, but in reverse: baby steps, frog in da pot, a bologna tube one thin 'slice' at a time, etc. Da baby is now a fracking giant, da frog is now boiled and all we're left with is the bologna heel!

Lately the gov't hasn't done anything that wasn't silly.

With most governmental actions, 'silly' should be a synonym for criminal! As long as da pols continue to spend the wage earners taxes 'bribing' da voters and 'bidding' for campaign contributors (aka buying votes), we'll continue to slide down this slippery slope and gain irreversible momentum. Da USPS public service union was one of da first to demand the unreasonable benefits via contracts (check out our auto industry's past).

Of course baby steps are a viable option. I wasn't trying to discredit that...

You said it'd be one less thing our children would have to worry about. That would be true, if every single company in the country were forced to do what Congress has imposed on USPS.

...?!?!?!

Not trying to have a full-on argument here, but the money woes the USPS is facing was never its own fault. This one rests squarely with...

...see above!

Get everyone on the same page, following the same rules, and I'll agree with you 100%.

Ah ha... I'll agree with you there when the Congress and President have to abide by the Obama Care rules/regulations passed on to us and our progeny. Oh wait... how 'bout da 'sequester' that doesn't apply to dem pols incomes/benefits?!?!?
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Not sure what exactly you're getting at there...

Subsidized housing is the same as making sure our troops get mail?

Almost... the former now takes precedence over the latter. Been to a VA hospital lately? Although I'm eligible, I haven't utilized that benefit 'cause I'd rather take my chances with the 'free market'!

Although I may appear here as your opponent, chances are that you and I are quite close in freedom appreciation. All I ask is that folk do not ask 'what's in it for me' or get so myopic that they can't see what's really happening to our nation.

BTW, I mail/ship via USPS domestically. Why not utilize a service that I've/we've already subsidized?
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...?!?!?!

Just saying I think our problems are so bad that with everyone paying a generation into the system, I doubt we'd be able to dig ourselves out. Making that a uniform rule would be a good baby step. Followed by mucho reform across the board. Everywhere. In everything we do, from currency production, to trade and borrowing with foreign countries, to military and foreign policies, and of course our domestic "social" programs. Those would all be baby steps. Accountability. Responsibility. You know, those things this country was supposed to cherish. :p


Ah ha... I'll agree with you there when the Congress and President have to abide by the Obama Care rules/regulations passed on to us and our progeny. Oh wait... how 'bout da 'sequester' that doesn't apply to dem pols incomes/benefits?!?!?

Wasn't this about baby steps? LOL

There's so much wrong with our politicians and the welfare we provide to them (salaries, lifetime healthcare, lack of term limits, pay for life after just a few years of service, etc etc etc), it's a genuine waste of time to type about it. Last I checked you had to serve 20 years in the military to get crappy retirement pay, yet a senator who works less than half the year and doesn't get shot at for a living gets full pay after 6? Plus they can decide when they get a raise?? It's a load of horsecrap.

Almost... the former now takes precedence over the latter. Been to a VA hospital lately? Although I'm eligible, I haven't utilized that benefit 'cause I'd rather take my chances with the 'free market'!

Thankfully, no. I trust my private docs much more. I've been asked that before (why not just go to the VA hospital?)... LOL ... obviously the people asking have never been to one. I never really cared for any military docs I've seen... But that one medic I met at the hospital on post was super hot. We had fun! :p

Although I may appear here as your opponent, chances are that you and I are quite close in freedom appreciation. All I ask is that folk do not ask 'what's in it for me' or get so myopic that they can't see what's really happening to our nation.

Close in freedom appreciation, perhaps. Other views? I highly doubt it.

Doesn't mean I won't attempt to carry on a conversation with you about it!

I mean, our politicians won't do it... Someone's got to!

Much about the way our country is run is broken. There's no two ways about it. And neither party has it right. Our choices are tweedle dumb or tweedle dumber.
 

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I'm just amazed they even ask you what's in it. I mailed 2 packages off this week and the guy didn't ask the first question about either of them. I can't even remember the last time I got asked about a package. Maybe 3-4 years ago. Good to be aware of though in case I ever go to mail a package and there's a newbie there wanting to follow the rules.:p
 

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Accountability. Responsibility. You know, those things this country was supposed to cherish. :p

Oh, how I wish!!!
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There's so much wrong with our politicians and the welfare we provide to them (salaries, lifetime healthcare, lack of term limits, pay for life after just a few years of service, etc etc etc), it's a genuine waste of time to type about it. Last I checked you had to serve 20 years in the military to get crappy retirement pay, yet a senator who works less than half the year and doesn't get shot at for a living gets full pay after 6? Plus they can decide when they get a raise?? It's a load of horsecrap.

Yepper...
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But that one medic I met at the hospital on post was super hot. We had fun!

Whoa, if it was Sandra, she never asked me to go shopping with her! And yes, she was HOT!
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Much about the way our country is run is broken. There's no two ways about it. And neither party has it right. Our choices are tweedle dumb or tweedle dumber.

Ummm... ya talkin' 'bout da pols or da electorate?
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Whoa, if it was Sandra, she never asked me to go shopping with her! And yes, she was HOT!
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Not sure what you mean by shopping, heh.

My hot medic was a dude. With the deepest voice I've ever heard. Fun, sexy, dirty, ohmygosh. We hit it off from the first moment.

Ummm... ya talkin' 'bout da pols or da electorate?
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Hah. A lot of dumb people vote. Thankfully, a lot of dumb people don't vote. I couldn't imagine what the country would be like now if every eligible voter cast a ballot. I actually just shuddered.
 

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Wouldn't it be nice if picking senators, congressmen etc... was like jury duty. A random pick of from the general public for a two year term. The lobbyists would dissappear overnight, your everyday joes would be making decisions based on what they think is right and wrong. What we have now is win or lose. Politicians for the most part don't give a dam about right and wrong. The system is broken. It's a shame what were doing to our children's future. All we do is spend and people think it's ok to continue down this path.
 

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I think you are misunderstanding my point, you made the point that the Federal Government gives money to the USPS for certain services, military, disabled....my point is, this is pretty common.

There are grants where a landlord can get a grant to build apartments and own them outright, provided for a period of time the landlord meets certain criteria, low income, handicapped accessability standards, military personnel and so on. This isn't actually subsidized housing, like Section 8, but subsidized building.

This is an aside to the overall point that the USPS has been gutted(something I do agree on).

Not sure what exactly you're getting at there...

Subsidized housing is the same as making sure our troops get mail?

I'm not following.
 

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I'm really shocked that the USPS isn't doing better financially with their package service. At least In Indianapolis, I find USPS faster, more reliable, and cheaper. I only ever use FedEx or UPS when I need guaranteed overnight. USPS is by far my preferred shopper for everything. Don't know if my experience translates across the country though.
 
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