v1.0 AFS somebody got instructions?

[clyde2801]

Received my version 1 AFS on the classifieds last weekend.

Accidentally popped out the atty, tried to reassemble it using the imeo video. Somehow, this is burning my button spring and causing a short.

Can anyone give me a concise guide on how to assemble and use the AFS? Sorry, imeo, but your videos are not the greatest for instructions.

I've set aside some time this weekend to try it again, and was hoping that someone could find or make a better guide to use by then.

Yes, I realize that I have told to wait for the new version. I'm getting it. But I'd like some imeo juicy goodness until then.

And a quick and dirty instructional PDF isn't a bad thing on the products you all are selling. The GGTS is simple and intuitive and doesn't need one. The v1.0 AFS quite the opposite.

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[skydawgg]

seems to sound like the same thing that happened to me, did you test the batteries? try a new pair of batteries? i am pretty sure the position of the afs on the atty makes a difference in the flow of the juice as well, although i dont actually have and afs so hopefully Imeo can clear this up!

 

[imeothanasis]

AFS is assembled clyde my friend?

 

[Lisaf01]

I know it's long, but nearly everything that has ever been said about AFS usage is here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/45410-afs-feedbacks.html

I also put some tips and links to vids here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-about-gg-newbies-start-here.html#post784915

 

[clyde2801]

AFS is assembled clyde my friend?

I thought so, but it won't vape, the button and battery gets really, really hot. So, I guess I'm taking it apart again when I get a chance.

 

[Lisaf01]

I thought so, but it won't vape, the button and battery gets really, really hot. So, I guess I'm taking it apart again when I get a chance.

The AFS itself cannot be causing your heating issues - it's not possible.

Have you tried another AFS atomiser in it or have you tried the AFS atomiser on its own out of the AFS?

 

[imeothanasis]

Its a faulty atomizer or faulty batteries clyde my friend. Change them and you will be fine

 

[clyde2801]

Okay, the afs atty I tried it with is fried. I'll take a couple of hours tomorrow morning, watch the videos, look at the thread, and try it again.

 

[clyde2801]

Wet battery again with the blue foam. Looks like I have the leaking problem. Should I wait until I get the new tip before I try the AFS on the GGTS?

 

[vapn]

The new AFS design has a liquid lock and no leakage should be a problem. If you notice you have too much juice flowing then you need to keep the holes up for a bit to dry the atty a bit. Then taste the slight burnt taste and rotate the holes back down again. Your taste buds have to cue you to when to rotate the atty holes up and down. If you taste burnt taste the whole time even with holes down then you have a clog or maybe your juice is too thick. VG is not a good juice to use in the AFS. But VG can help you with too much juice flowing also.

The AFS V2 should help with many of the issues with the current one. Imeo has been using the AFS for many months now and he knows of all the little imperfections with it. I am anticipating a nice user experience with this new model. No leakage, good juice flow with the adjustable draw feature. No need to rotate the device to get juice to flow. Liquid lock and leakage stop.

If you are having a lot of troubles with this version then it may just be less frustrating to wait till the next version. I get annoyed with my AFS from time to time but I have learned how to deal with problems of all sorts. Mostly the problems are battery voltage vs juice flow. Your taste buds are your only way of knowing what is going on with it.

I know the thread for AFS feedback is long but so many issues have been sorted out in there over the months.

 

[boomboom]

Yeah, good points vapn. Do not try to use the AFS when you have a cold and your tastebuds are out of whack. I did, and blew through two attys quickly because I couldn't taste the burnt stuff, I could only "feel" the rawness in my throat when it was too dry.

The new Imeo atties are better though than generation 1. There is no leakage, no constant rotating of the atty, just leave the hole down all the time.

 

[clyde2801]

Yeah, good points vapn. Do not try to use the AFS when you have a cold and your tastebuds are out of whack. I did, and blew through two attys quickly because I couldn't taste the burnt stuff, I could only "feel" the rawness in my throat when it was too dry.

The new Imeo atties are better though than generation 1. There is no leakage, no constant rotating of the atty, just leave the hole down all the time.

Oh, then I should use my 6 volt imeos? Cool, thanks.

 

[vapn]

Clyde, what attie and battery have you been using? The old style TW ones have a larger hole than this new iAtty does. They are smaller because people were having flooding problems.

Get the atty working nicely by dripping on it for a bit to make sure you like the performance of it without setting up the AFS on it. Then you are good to go with setting up the tank and putting juice in it. I always check my AFS atties with a key chain LED that fits inside the atty and make sure the laser hole is not blocked.... Make sure you are not using a standard cart also. ONLY use a mouthpiece or cut the cart back as to not block that hole.

 

[imeothanasis]

very nice method Vapn my good friend and very useful and easy!! Maybe a laser point would do the job too? I say this because it is very cheap and easy to use

 

[boomboom]

I had problems with the TW iatties with blocked holes. I would seal the atty connection end with my finger and blow into the atty hole where you drip. If I could feel air coming out of the lazer hole, I knew it wasn't blocked. I don't always have a flashlight or laser pointer with me, so the method of blowing into the atty was more convenient for me. Really, who has a portable light source with them all the time????

With the new generation iatty, I haven't encountered a blocked lazer hole yet. Also, there are no burn marks on the exterior like the TW generation iatty.

Vapn does have a very good tip to get your atty "broken in" before using on the AFS. That primer on the new atty tastes burnt all the time until it is vaped away. Primer taste is usually totally gone after the first full day of use.

If it tastes burnt on i6 or i7 using an AFS, I re-drip two drops and am usually good for about 20 puffs before I re-drip. Way more than the usual 4 puffs you would get without an AFS. It's not ideal, technically I should never have to re-drip after initial "priming" drips, but that lazer hole is so small that 6 and 7.2/7.4 volts just go through juice too fast for that litlle hole to keep up. The smaller hole redeems itself though by no flooding issues and not having to constantly rotate the atty hole up-down-up-down. Plus, you never ever get the juice in the mouth grossness because it never floods.

The adjustable flow rate on the new AFS coming out will fix all of the above problems.

 

[vapn]

Well that LED was a keychain that I got with a battery order I think from Battery junction. It is the best little AFS tool I have now. A Laser pointer I don't think would work very well for this purpose. All I am trying to see is if the hole is blocked and how large it is compared to the original holes on the TW ones. The new iAtty has a smaller hole and like boom boom said one can keep the holes in the down position most of the time. Plus they don't make all that gurgling sound like the RN TW did. It is hard to tell if you have enough juice in them without that sound though.

 

[boomboom]

Yes, the gurgle was a very good indicator about your proximity to flooding. No gurgle at all with the newest version atties. Taste is the only indicator now.

 

[clyde2801]

I'm taking imeo's advice (which I should have done in the first place) and waiting on the more newbie friendly second gen AFS. A first gen veteran is buying mine to lessen the cost of my education. Thanks.

Coming up on week 3 with the same (non HV) 510 atty with the 18650 battery on my ggts. By my rough calculations, through the decrease in atty attrition alone over my previous mod, the GGTS will have paid for itself in three months.

We need a way to compute and compare the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) in PVs as they do with cars. So far, my GGTS is somewhere in the Volvo/Toyota/Honda range.

Crap! Shouldn't have said labeled this 'prologue'. Whoops!