Ah I see, the juice may be the culprit here.
Are you allergic to PG? Remember Vegetable Glycerin is a carbohydrate, while being used in various products such as tooth paste, lotions and soaps, only a small percentage is used in e-liquid testings. We don’t really know the long term effects of it. While VG takes away tremendous flavor, it also burns horribly clogging up atomizers and cartomizers alike leading to swift failures. It should only be used to a max if you have allergies to propylene glycol.
Vg burns as thick as it is. building up black tar like gunk that will clog
indefinitely. Coating the heating element in the resin like substance
destroying atomizers. Typically an atomizer lives up to 6 months and with
the right liquids can last a year.
I agree that VG is clearly more "gunky" than PG, so this is kind of a nitpick, but PG is classified as a carbohydrate too. It's used to keep cattle out of ketosis, or the metabolic stage where we are using our fat stores for energy. I've seen one of the chemists here (maybe Dvap) talking about the caramelization of both PG and VG.
Even though I don't seem to have a PG allergy, I think I am going to try the
triacetin I bought from
Perfumer's Apprentice soon. As I was just writing this up again I found this
synopsis of several studies that makes this other ECF
thread seem pretty inaccurate.
I feel a lot more positive about it now, but I probably shouldn't get into all that in this thread. I'm just going to put a few more things, then look into it more, but I wanted people to give this a second look as a PG alternative. Maybe this belongs in some research section of the forum, but I can tell you guys if I make another thread on it.
First of all, it is a very simple oil as compared to other
lipids. Being somebody fond of the
paleo diet, I haven't liked the idea of PG and VG being part of my "diet". I don't think the amount of calories we get from vaping is all that substantial, but
I know it isn't insignificant either.
Anyhow, the (USDA/FDA?) classification of what is or is not a carbohydrate is kind of inaccurate (from my limited knowledge of chemistry anyhow). Triacetin will be broken down into 3 (tri-) acetic acid molecules (vinegar) and one glycerol ("carbohydrate"), but it is classified as an oil (ester). Vinegar sounds bad, but I think that translates into pretty safe within the body. From a metabolic standpoint, it sounds good to me. From an atty-life standpoint it
might be good even compared to PG, at least it doesn't seem bad like VG. Personally, I've been wondering what that black gunk you mention really is and what we're inhaling when an atty/carto gets funky..
Last thing on triacetin is that it seems more odorless or pleasant than anything from my whiffs I've taken and other people's descriptions besides whatever was pulled out in that ECF thread. Otherwise it wouldn't be so widely used in the flavoring industry or as a perfume fixative. I'm always reading through technical stuff on flavorings and they are very commonly described at ".01% (or whatever) in triacetin". I'm going to have to test if it can even be vaped on it's own though.. PA says it should be mixed with VG.. more to come on that.
A good start would be to visit
Xtreme Vaping as they have 150mg premixed to your choice of PG or VG at low prices and as I hear it, top quality
Think you mean 100mg =)
It looks top notch but I am skeptical about how big of a deal that fraction of a percent of extra purity is really worth. There's been thread after thread on this in the DIY forum recently so I'm not going to rehash it. A great sale somewhere else just ended, but I like the idea of shopping around on nic.
