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The Ocelot

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Wizardlabs.us - but they are swamped and not taking orders currently.

Or

Myfreedomsmokes.com - little more expensive, but they are reselling, so that makes sense.

Mt. Baker sells it too, but I don't know if it's expensive or not, I haven't shopped around.
 

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1. Any thoughts on Innokin's new iClear 30 clearomizer? I'm guessing that the upcoming VV/VW mod will match it perfectly. While Ray's pyrex tanks are always my first choice, I do use clearomizers for juices that clog up cartomizers quickly. Since October, my favorite was the Kanger T3, but the iClear 30 looks really interesting.

iClear 30 - Best Electronic Cigarette | E Cigarette Manufacturer| Innokin
 

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Wizardlabs.us - but they are swamped and not taking orders currently.

Or

Myfreedomsmokes.com - little more expensive, but they are reselling, so that makes sense.

thank you, when i get home i will check them out. my employer has tight web restrictions and can't access either site.
when does this awful ban potentially take place?
 

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I believe it is supposed to start in April..... I really haven't read too much about it... The Vape Team was talking about it. Something about "deeming"... Any product made after 1997 would have to go through a process that could cost about $200,000.00! I think that would cover every vape product, but not big pharma's patches, gum, etc...
 

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So far it's not. We are contemplating the Zombie Apocalypse.

A great juice from AiV, by the way! ;)

Levisdaddy... The FDA will propose deeming legislation by April 2013. So there is sometime, but they could come back before then. Doubt that though. I believe there's a month long period for public comment after they do... so I figure May at the latest.

Of course, they may shake us all up and not do anything horribly drastic and leave us alone.
 

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Im not 100% sure BT is to blame here. It's more big pharmaceutical. The tobacco boys still make money from us. Where do you think the nicotine in our juice comes from?

Pharmaceutical companies and there drug pushing as the most to lose with us. Of course, we have the most to lose with them. I NEVER had bouts of depression and anxiety untill I took Chantix. Now I'm lucky to go a day with out an anxiety attack.

Gah. I need to stop ranting on this. I've done what I can with comments and letters and petitions. All I'm doing now is working myself into a tizzy.
 

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this is nuts. i was reading about it in another thread. this is just a push from big tobacco to make it harder to quit, keeping their biz profitable. arghhh.
well if it does go thru, i wouldnt need to order my gallons of nic juice until end of march...

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Problem is that people are ordering now and some places are out of it. I wouldn't wait till the last minute.... Even then, how long is it going to last? It is not just big tobacco, but big pharma! They want you on their gum and patches..... Makes me sick what is becoming of this once great country.....
 

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Well, according to the banner at the top of my page here on ECF, tomorrow is the LAST DAY to tell the FDA what you think! I guess it is better to do something than nothing! If all of us wrote to them to tell them our stories, MAYBE they would listen. We can only hope! Doing nothing will not help.... I'm going to check this out further and actually do something, myself, instead of just complaining in this thread! I LOVE vaping! I don't think they have any right to take it away from me!
 

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well, according to the banner at the top of my page here on ecf, tomorrow is the last day to tell the fda what you think! I guess it is better to do something than nothing! If all of us wrote to them to tell them our stories, maybe they would listen. We can only hope! Doing nothing will not help.... I'm going to check this out further and actually do something, myself, instead of just complaining in this thread! I love vaping! I don't think they have any right to take it away from me!

doooo eeeettt!!!!
 

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it is quite sicking...
to avoid a rant refore i leave work ill leave it at that.
now on to happy surfing------ looking up a recipie for the turkey :)

Start brining it while you surf! It only takes a few minutes to set it up and then forget about it till tomorrow night.
 
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