I noticed a few posts on social media where non vapers or smokers are saying that vapers themselves are saying vaping is bad because of comments they've read in regards to juul. I think the negativity vapers are showing towards that company could be confusing people we are trying to get on our side.
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Hey all. Just got back from a local, small business vape shop that anticipates closing on the 10th. It was heartbreaking and bleak.
I’m more ready to be loud than ever.
I’m more ready to be loud than ever.
I think that’s Tacoma area. I’m ashamed to say I don’t think I’ve ever been, if I have been, it’s been so long I don’t quite remember.
I know that it always comes up as a top listing when I google maps for local shops.
This doesn't announce their closing but they can't ship to my state (MA) anymore.....
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Dear Karen,
This is not an email that we wanted to write. Unfortunately, Governor Charlie Baker has put an immediate ban on all nicotine vaping products in the state of Massachusetts. Currently, this ban is effective until January 25th, 2020 and will be re-evaluated at this time. This ban includes all brick and mortar stores as well as online sales.
If you would like to reach out to Governor Baker and his team CLICK HERE or call 617-725-4005.
As of today, VistaVapors, Inc. will no longer be shipping orders to Massachusetts. We want to thank all of you for being such loyal customers over the years. If anything changes regarding this situation, we will be sure to let you know.
VistaVapors, Inc.
I mix my juice in bottle and just do drops of flavor, add my pre mixed base, shake and vape. I like easy LOL
The post used the issue of HIV to show how coming together and advocating for the issues that matter to you can make a large impact..
it wasn't a poll on who likes Reagan so yes, it does actually seem like intent to get the partisan politics flame war going again.
I'm putting this thread on ignore. Apparently no one is giving it a rest.
No, "other" is cigalike brands like Eon and Logic. Vape shop and online sales (even by Juul) are not monitored by Nielsen, and therefore don't appear in these charts. The only person I know who estimates open system market sales, is Bonnie Herzog, Wells Fargo tobacco analyst. She estimates open system sales are higher than close system sales, and that Juul has an overall market share of just over 30% across open/closed systems and categories, in contrast to it's >70% share in closed systems sold through convenient stores."Other" would be B&M Vape Shops .. but why split hairs .. ??
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Considering many/most of use Chinese imported gear that companies like fasttech don't report to American bean counters.. The 70% could very well be 85%.
Another data point is how many people vape? Where is the official numbers? It's not like getting a driver's license. A few people here have more gear than say 5 random other people here.
Like always you are wrong. Mrs. IhaveAnAxToGrind against abortion. You're political speak here is in your posting history sweety so get off your high horse please.
Opionated? No, janky and hypocritical is more like it. When you put this thread on ignore please do the same for me.
I'm hypocritical because on rant #3 I pointed out that not everyone holds the same beliefs and made a polite request to stop with the ranting already?
That makes me hypocritical?
lol..
I just want a nice forum to come to to talk with fellow vapers... I don't want to hear a bunch ranting about abortion topics or other such divisive issues.
I guess NO ONE on this forum feels they would like the same then?
I'm not the one running around the forum trying to grind political axes!
I'd do anything for anyone here that I was able without even caring about their political ideals.. that's not what makes a person worth or not worth something, politics isn't even on my radar as to what makes someone kind, or nice, or worthy of my friendship and kindness.
Apparently I'm alone in this..
I swear to God if we cant even come together as vapers and human beings to talk about vaping without 10 tons of chips on our shoulders then we are well and truly lost..
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I bet that "market share" is in terms of dollars too, not the percentage of vapers using Juul.
Juul is a very expensive way to vape. A pack of four pods, containing a total of 2.8 ml of liquid sells for $15-20. That's likely at least double what the average open-system vaper spends on consumables, even if they're buying relatively expensive vendor juice. So if it's 30% in terms of dollars, it's likely 15% or less in terms of the number of vapers using Juul.
A lot of people want the convenience of a grab and go do nothing vape not to mention the comfortable familiarity of going to the same convenience store they bought their cigs at, all part of their routine rituals, so they do not mind to cost which is in most cases still cheaper than smoking was for them. I would imagine most smokers saw them and bought one on a whim when they ran in to grab their cigs. In general people don't want to fuss they want their vaping to be as simple/ uncomplicated as smoking was for them. I know quite a few i introduced with open systems they said they quit because it was too much of a hassle that later were successful with the grab and go systems.
I felt obligated to drop by two of my local vape stores this weekend. One is vapor products only and the other is 1/2 and 1/2, half vape and the other half tobacco.
While the state I live in has not yet banned anything, there is talk about a 6mo ban on all vaping products. The vape only store was almost having a "fire sale". I bought a over priced (even with discount) pod mod from them along with a few empty pods. I could not however get on board with the 35-50mg "nic salts" juices that they were recommending. I bowed out and ended up filling one of the pods with DIY 18mg "Grapefruit" juice.
The other store actually had TWO people working. One on the smoke side of the store and another on the vapor side of the store. A quick glance over their mods revealed really nothing I was interested in wasting my money on so I resigned to picking up a couple extra "pods" for the Lost Vape "Orion" that I had purchased earlier. Wow. Over $10 for two pods. While clearly 1/2 of this store is packed with vaping gear, I could see that the smoke side of the store might be able to keep the place afloat if the possible 6mo ban on vaping products comes to pass.
I have to admit, I still don't get the 35-50mg juice thing. The 18mg stuff I'm using right now in the pod seems fine to me. I might just mix up 30ml of 50mg juice to see what its about. (maybe)
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While the state I live in has not yet banned anything, there is talk about a 6mo ban on all vaping products. The vape only store was almost having a "fire sale". I bought a over priced (even with discount) pod mod from them along with a few empty pods. I could not however get on board with the 35-50mg "nic salts" juices that they were recommending. I bowed out and ended up filling one of the pods with DIY 18mg "Grapefruit" juice.
The other store actually had TWO people working. One on the smoke side of the store and another on the vapor side of the store. A quick glance over their mods revealed really nothing I was interested in wasting my money on so I resigned to picking up a couple extra "pods" for the Lost Vape "Orion" that I had purchased earlier. Wow. Over $10 for two pods. While clearly 1/2 of this store is packed with vaping gear, I could see that the smoke side of the store might be able to keep the place afloat if the possible 6mo ban on vaping products comes to pass.
I have to admit, I still don't get the 35-50mg juice thing. The 18mg stuff I'm using right now in the pod seems fine to me. I might just mix up 30ml of 50mg juice to see what its about. (maybe)
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Yeah, I can understand that. If I hadn't picked up vaping until after Juul was widely available, I could see myself having fallen into that trap.
Still, the manner in which I vape now is less hassle for me than smoking was. I have no need to go out and buy smokes every 5 days. The last time I mixed juice was in April. I've done nothing to my gear except fill squonk bottles and swap batteries since July. Of course, it did take a while to get to this point.
If you mix up regular nic at that strength, you will likely find it to be quite harsh. Salts mitigate that by being closer to neutral in pH, vs the relatively alkaline regular nic.
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