VapeCige Vtbox200

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AtmizrOpin

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It boils down to what your comfortable paying for knowing it's a preorder from China. Now that there are actual pics and vids out of the lazy assembly. It's up to the individual to decide. No product that is bought should start to come apart, break, etc. Regardless of price. It'll be interesting to see how Vapecige handles this disaster and that will determine which type of reputation they have. AS LONG AS IT DON'T MESS WITH ME GETTIN MY SH@T. I'd spaz out if they pushed the ETA up to fix these problems, just send me a super glue one, I'm cool with it.:)
 

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It boils down to what your comfortable paying for knowing it's a preorder from China. Now that there are actual pics and vids out of the lazy assembly. It's up to the individual to decide. No product that is bought should start to come apart, break, etc. Regardless of price. It'll be interesting to see how Vapecige handles this disaster and that will determine which type of reputation they have. AS LONG AS IT DON'T MESS WITH ME GETTIN MY SH@T. I'd spaz out if they pushed the ETA up to fix these problems, just send me a super glue one, I'm cool with it.:)

I honestly would rather wait how ever long it takes for them to do it right and delay all units until they are at least assembled the way they should be. Even it means glue on the magnets and not sticking to their 'no glue' thing lol I would much rather know my 510 is properly and safely secured but that's just me.

How ever I would be interested to hear your 30 min fix if you would be so kind to expand?

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I would be flabbergasted if they delayed anything. If they're coming to FT in two days they're already packed in cartons on shipping pallets. They're probably already in the air in bulk for vendors further afield.

Anyway, if they shipped them out in this state to reviewers they're not going to change anything for paying customers.

I would sincerely hope they do something for batch 2, but batch 1 is a done deal I am certain.
 

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This is tough to decide. Watching the review I was waiting for screen scrambles, not firing, bad USB, bad battery, hot glue mess inside (I did not know about the no glue claim).



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SO THREE UN-BOXING'S WITHOUT IT FALLING APART






 
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I just received this from my contact at vapecige.

Hi Matt,
The first 50kits VTbox200, the 510 thread get loose because of the glue problem.
We are sorry for this. The glue(for first 50kits) used out and we tried Germany made glue on the second batch.
So far it seems the problem only happened on the first batch.
We will have a meeting soon this afternoon and will work out a solution.
will consider pressfit 510 thread instead of glue.
For all orders waiting to be shipped or future orders, we will double test each VTbox200.
We are full responsible for any problem if cause by our company.

Sincerely
Sales Manager
Trinity
 

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You're still expecting to receive it tomorrow? If so can you try to get closeup pictures of the area where the 510 mounts to the enclosure so we can see if a FDV or Varitube 510 could possibly be used?

Yea I will still be getting it tomorrow. Sure I can take pics of where the 510 mounts. I have not found out if mine has the bad glue job or not I am still waiting on an answer. For all I know they could just be in damage control.
 

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Yea I will still be getting it tomorrow. Sure I can take pics of where the 510 mounts. I have not found out if mine has the bad glue job or not I am still waiting on an answer. For all I know they could just be in damage control.

Thanks. Another point of interest for me would be the switch button cap. If your able to get the switch cap unscrewed to see if the pcb switch is centered in the opening and if the aluminum / stainless or whatever button is hitting on the LCD ribbon cable or not that would be great. I know Hana had a problem with pinching the ribbon cable when fired causing the display to fail and watching the Vapnfagan's video it looks like the ribbon is pretty close to being in the way when fired but cant tell for sure.
 

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Thanks. Another point of interest for me would be the switch button cap. If your able to get the switch cap unscrewed to see if the pcb switch is centered in the opening and if the aluminum / stainless or whatever button is hitting on the LCD ribbon cable or not that would be great. I know Hana had a problem with pinching the ribbon cable when fired causing the display to fail and watching the Vapnfagan's video it looks like the ribbon is pretty close to being in the way when fired but cant tell for sure.

I actually think the screw on fire button frame is a perfectly fine design. Fagan is flabbergasted about that frame and that the button it's just floating in there...in fairness to VapeCige, the onboard buttons on the DNA200 are intended to be installed in a floating orientation. VapeCige's design on the buttons is only a problem because VapeCige clearly got the spacing between the board mounts and the button height wrong, resulting in the reported mushy feeling. I've designed four DNA200s and the buttons are not mushy at all; there is no excuse for a mass produced production mod getting this wrong.

On my own 3D print designs I've moved the screen down closer to the adjustment buttons...sure it's not quite centered, but it leaves room for the ribbon cable to stay out of the way of the firing button and provides a larger landing area for my thumb. It also allows easier reading of the whole screen while I'm holding it.

But that 510....whoa! That's a horrible design decision. It seems like they rushed this one out the door.
 

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I honestly would rather wait how ever long it takes for them to do it right and delay all units until they are at least assembled the way they should be. Even it means glue on the magnets and not sticking to their 'no glue' thing lol I would much rather know my 510 is properly and safely secured but that's just me.

How ever I would be interested to hear your 30 min fix if you would be so kind to expand?

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Drill two tiny holes one each side of the SS 510 body all the way through the top of the mod tap the holes made in the top of the mod to give them threads, replace the 510, find two tiny machine screws. And secure the 510 body to the top of the mod will the screws.
 

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Got mine yesterday in red and black and before the videos came out my 510 had come loose and away from the body.

As it would be a ball ache sending it back I got some gel type superglue and glued it back on.

Strangely I am still really happy with the unit. It works as expected. And I love the fire button. The fire button is a piece of aluminium that presses against the fire button on the board same design as the sx mini and another 350j box mod I have except the button is more free floating so it has a mushy feel to it exactly the same as the esquare button. So that's personal preference.

I did have two magnets come out of their housings too but glued them back in also.

Hopefully they will sort the 510 for other people. Apart from that it is exactly as advertised and a really nice solid unit in the hand.

If my 510 fix continues to work then I am overall happy. It's not what it should be. It's not how it should be. But I am happy with the unit.


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I actually think the screw on fire button frame is a perfectly fine design. Fagan is flabbergasted about that frame and that the button it's just floating in there...in fairness to VapeCige, the onboard buttons on the DNA200 are intended to be installed in a floating orientation. VapeCige's design on the buttons is only a problem because VapeCige clearly got the spacing between the board mounts and the button height wrong, resulting in the reported mushy feeling. I've designed four DNA200s and the buttons are not mushy at all; there is no excuse for a mass produced production mod getting this wrong.

On my own 3D print designs I've moved the screen down closer to the adjustment buttons...sure it's not quite centered, but it leaves room for the ribbon cable to stay out of the way of the firing button and provides a larger landing area for my thumb. It also allows easier reading of the whole screen while I'm holding it.

But that 510....whoa! That's a horrible design decision. It seems like they rushed this one out the door.

I'm not concerned with the way the button top screws on or mush feel What I'm concerned with is in the video you can see the lcd ribbon cable in very close proximity to the on board switch and appears to be at the same height or higher. With the button top being much larger than the on board switch it appears it could be squishing the ribbon cable down every time it's fired creating either movement on the ribbon or pinching it each time which over time could cause it to fail.
 

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Why is the preorder back to 20 days?

Still shows 1 day on my order

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It showing 20 days on the main product page, without an ETA, I think means that they sold out of the first batch so anyone ordering now has to wait until the next delivery, with no current ETA just an estimated 20 days.

If one orders when it shows an ETA on the product page, that means you get it in that ETA. So I guess if that ETA only just disappeared recently, they hadn't sold their first batch until now.
 

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OnE last thing though. I'm not happy with having to charge the thing but that isn't the VTbox's fault. I am going to have to get myself a dual 18650 version at some point as this lipo is like going back to when I rotated two isticks.

Takes just over 3 hours to charge from empty.

Ohh that brings me to another thing. The manual clearly states not to take the cells below 3.6v. The other lipos this seems to be 3.09v so you are loosing a little capacity there. Through escribe I have played about and you get approx 1500mAh from 4.2v to 3.6v. I have put a thread on the evolve forum but I recommend you set the soft cut off voltage to 3.6v until we know more. Set the watt hours to 19.98 alongside this.

Also mine is number 27 just curious what numbers others get.


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