Vapers March on Washington DC!

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zoiDman

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I posted this in the "Big" Deeming thread today...

I got an e-Mail last night from a recently switched Life-Long Smoker. She was Ranting Blue Thunder about what a Complete Travesty the FDA's actions were in light of the Information that has come out of the UK and France. She Told me that she would Like to Tell the FDA Exactly how She Felt.

I told Her why didn't She Compose Herself and Do Just That.

Contact CTP

I'm sure the FDA would like to Hear just How Pleased you are with the way they are handling e-Cigarettes and e-Liquids.
 

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I've sent a few messages to different business to see their thoughts on the situation. This is part of what one said back to me, "The best thing you can do is join the "We Are CASAA" FaceBook page and learn there what you can do to help. Specifically we need EVERYONE to send emails/letters/phone calls in support of HR2058"
 

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There is nothing negative about a showing of CIVIL Disobedience in Support of removing UN-Just Regulation.
Yes, Legal actions in Court of Law may be required, but Support of the People is Required to attain those actions and Awareness Brings Support.

The Nation is Seeing Reports of the Travesty of this Deeming Action. It is in print and has been Aired.

However Momentum MUST Be Maintained.

I Vape
I Vote
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The Nation is Seeing Reports of the Travesty of this Deeming Action. It is in print and has been Aired.

However Momentum MUST Be Maintained.

I Vape
I Vote
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I Agree.

Sometimes the ECF is like a Nuclear Containment Vessel. There can be a White Hot Rage going on Inside, but if that Rage does not Break Out and go any farther, it Dies a Slow Death.

I say Get Up and Contact Someone (anyone/everyone) and tell them what you Think.

Even if it is Just a 2 Line Message like...

I'm Mad as Hell.
And I'm Not Going to Take It ANYMORE!
 

zoiDman

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Thanks for the link to the CTP!
I let them know of my frustrations.

Know Anyone Else who Vapes?
How about Friends, Family, Co-Workers who have Seen the Benefits of You or Others who have Gotten Off Cigarettes?
Got access to FB or some other Social Media?

Why not Forward that FDA Contact Link to them.
 

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Know Anyone Else who Vapes?
How about Friends, Family, Co-Workers who have Seen the Benefits of You or Others who have Gotten Off Cigarettes?
Got access to FB or some other Social Media?

Why not Forward that FDA Contact Link to them.
Sorry, this forum is the only social media for me.
I have emailed my friends and family already.
I have not been able to get on here much lately, just get the news and media section mostly.
Being able to vent on the FDA got me fired up so I immediately sent out emails
Every avenue is being used now!
 

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Sorry, this forum is the only social media for me.
I have emailed my friends and family already.
I have not been able to get on here much lately, just get the news and media section mostly.
Being able to vent on the FDA got me fired up so I immediately sent out emails
Every avenue is being used now!

No Sorry Needed. I'm not on FB or Twitter or any other similar site.

Emailed Friends and Family and asking them to pass it along is More than what Many will do. So You Should Feel Proud of that.

Getting People Turned On to doing an Action (verses just Talking about how Bad things are) is the Only Way to effect Change.

"From the Pain, come the Dream
From the Dream, come the Vision
From the Vision, come the People
From the People, come the Power
And From This Power... Comes the Change."


peter gabriel, "Fourteen Black Paintings", US - 1992
 

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No Sorry Needed. I'm not on FB or Twitter or any other similar site.

Emailed Friends and Family and asking them to pass it along is More than what Many will do. So You Should Feel Proud of that.

Getting People Turned On to doing an Action (verses just Talking about how Bad things are) is the Only Way to effect Change.

"From the Pain, come the Dream
From the Dream, come the Vision
From the Vision, come the People
From the People, come the Power
And From This Power... Comes the Change."


peter gabriel, "Fourteen Black Paintings", US - 1992
I totally agree!!!
I have been advocating for the NMSS, and handicapped people for almost 20 years now.
Wow, I can't believe it's been that long.
I started in kindergarten
 

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Almost(not quite) ready to give up. :(

A Protest March will be a good experiment in Failure to reach the General VAPING Public. The Numbers that Might participate - If they were Aware - vs the Number that will participate because they ARE AWARE.

So, I have talked with several Casual Vapers. I Call any uninformed, non-Forum/Social Vaping specific member a casual Vaper. A Person that has switched to vaping for whatever reason but has no knowledge or concerns over where vaping is headed.
Not one, Casual Vaper has even an inkling of the Damage the FDA is doing to the industry. Well, they didn't before I went off :D

So, today was hair cut day. I Pass near 2 Vape shops while out so decided to pay one a visit.
I Chose SS Vapes - Look them up - A Franchise CORPORATION.

I Walk in and introduce myself to the local Owner/Operator. Tell then I recommend people to their store on occasion, but am concerned over Public awareness over FDA DEEMING Regulations.
Instant Response: That only effects Shops that Mix their Own Liquids. :facepalm:

Me: So I get calmly infuriated at the lack of concern and knowledge. Point to the Counter Displays Full of Mods and the Shelves with hundreds of E-liquids from many manufacturers .................and I unload the truth on him. 99%-99.9% of this will be Gone if the FDA has its way. I Explain the $$$Millions it will cost for Each and Every individual Item to pass FDA Approval processes.

................and I get this:

deer-in-headlights.jpg


Then I explained the importance of keeping up and Supporting/joining his choice of the Many Advocacy Groups like CASAA and information forums like ECF

So...........now I wonder how many converts have gone Numbly through this B&M and on to Vape in ignorance of the Future of Vaping.

Frustration kept me from following up at MaddKatt, but they are well established and should have an ear to the ground on all of this.

This is all getting To Real:oops:
 

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I for the last 2 years said:
Apathetic minions of gooberment will need to quit rotting and take an actual stand.

ECF members in response said:

I voted for change once. I got Barrack Obama... twice.

:blink:

Good luck, people. IF (BIG IF) we can set a date AND rally the troops, I'll make my best effort to be there.

Though, methinks our best course of action at THIS point is to follow the law suits, pick one with the most opposition to any of this and a little forward momentum and back it financially.

Tapatyped
 

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Though, methinks our best course of action at THIS point is to follow the law suits, pick one with the most opposition to any of this and a little forward momentum and back it financially.

I'll support that initiative and any other Civil Action that subverts FDA Regulation of Vaping products. :D
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I Vote
I Vape
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