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Did you check here? Heimdall Instructions - xda-developers

No guarantees, I'm a Windows person (find a friend with Windows, probably simpler :) )

Mark, thanks, I just read that entire thread, and there are no answers. I registered there and posted my own thread [Q] How to root Droid Charge with a Mac - xda-developers . It wouldn't let me reply to that thread, being a newbie, so if anyone who has more than 10 posts on the XDA developers forum wants to post it for me on that thread, I'd be quite happy, thank you!
 

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Heimdall was what I used for mac sandy. What the problem is? Your gonna have to bootcamp if u wanna get things done since the replies youve gotten say no method for ur phone with heimdall
I'm also asking bout image for non rooted phone btw. I refuse to mess around till a few months pass. Bricking then smashing my phone and canceling my contract cost too much to mess around again atm

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Heimdall was what I used for mac sandy. What the problem is? Your gonna have to bootcamp if u wanna get things done since the replies youve gotten say no method for ur phone with heimdall
I'm also asking bout image for non rooted phone btw. I refuse to mess around till a few months pass. Bricking then smashing my phone and canceling my contract cost too much to mess around again atm

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Unfortunately, to do an image level backup, you have to have root.
 

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I suppose that it's just a matter of backing up the Verizon image before wiping it and rooting. After that, you can always do another backup for the rooted image and then reload the stock Verizon image before you send it in for warranty service?

Next Question ... what if it freezes, burps, has a hardware failure, and you have to send it back for warranty without restoring the plain vanilla Verizon image for some reason or another? Do they tell you that your rooted image voids the warranty or do they just pop new insides into it, install their image, and mail it back to you? Just wondering about the legal aspect of rooting a phone covered by a contract based damage/failure warranty.

Is there a good reason to root a phone that already has ICS or Jelly Bean? Isn't the objective to get to a higher level version of the OS your phone runs? Are there other features available through root other than the phone being unlocked at that point?
 
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I suppose that it's just a matter of backing up the Verizon image before wiping it and rooting. After that, you can always do another backup for the rooted image and then reload the stock Verizon image before you send it in for warranty service?

Next Question ... what if it freezes, burps, has a hardware failure, and you have to send it back for warranty without restoring the plain vanilla Verizon image? Do they tell you that your rooted image voids the warranty or do they just pop new insides into it and mail it back to you? Just wondering about the legal aspect of rooting a phone covered by a contract based damage/failure warranty.

To answer all of these questions in one fell swoop:there is always a way to return to stock.

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Root voids most warranties. Actually, it's the tampered bootloader that voids the warranty, I think.

If the phone is trashed and can't be powered on (ruined by water, overheated to failure etc...) they'll never know if it was rooted.

If the phone is still usable, you can flash the factory OEM back and un-root before returning it, so they won't know it was rooted.

Almost all replacements are refurbs and not your original. In select cases, you may send the phone to the manufacturer and they'll send you your fixed phone back.
 

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Root voids most warranties. Actually, it's the tampered bootloader that voids the warranty, I think.

If the phone is trashed and can't be powered on (ruined by water, overheated to failure etc...) they'll never know if it was rooted.

If the phone is still usable, you can flash the factory OEM back and un-root before returning it, so they won't know it was rooted.

Almost all replacements are refurbs and not your original. In select cases, you may send the phone to the manufacturer and they'll send you your fixed phone back.

That's what I was thinking. My first Galaxy Nexus kept losing its radio connection at the rate of about 50 some odd times in a little over an hour. When I took it back to Best Buy, they looked at my no signal app record, went over the to locked cabinet, and returned with a brand new (or refurbed ... I couldn't tell) and proceeded to image it for Verizon. It's been rock solid since that day.
 

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Root voids most warranties. Actually, it's the tampered bootloader that voids the warranty, I think.

If the phone is trashed and can't be powered on (ruined by water, overheated to failure etc...) they'll never know if it was rooted.

If the phone is still usable, you can flash the factory OEM back and un-root before returning it, so they won't know it was rooted.

Almost all replacements are refurbs and not your original. In select cases, you may send the phone to the manufacturer and they'll send you your fixed phone back.

root most definitely voids a phone's warranty, especially with newer devices such as mine, for instance:

the bootloader screen for my LTEvo shows ***TAMPERED*** across the top when you have just root access enabled....HOWEVER: if the bootloader is unlocked on the phone: you can flash custom bootloader menus....if a sprint rep were to boot my phone right now, they would see no signs of tampering, matter of fact mine looks exactly like a stock bootloader menu screen....granted the cyanogen boot animation would be a dead giveaway :p
 

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Dave was your Nexus rooted?

No, I have never seen the need to do so. My old HTC Eris was at Gingerbread level and my new Galaxy Nexus was at Ice Cream Sandwich and within a month or so, was upgraded to Jelly Bean. I'm happy with whatever apps are available at stock levels and don't really see the need to root. There were people rooting the old Eris phones to get upgraded, but Verizon didn't see the need to go past Gingerbread on that one.

Why do people root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600006
 
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No, I have never seen the need to do so. My old HTC Eris was at Gingerbread level and my new Galaxy Nexus was at Ice Cream Sandwich and within a month or so, was upgraded to Jelly Bean. I'm happy with whatever apps are available at stock levels and don't really see the need to root. There were people rooting the old Eris phones to get upgraded, but Verizon didn't see the need to go past Gingerbread on that one.

Why do people root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600006

Well you also use a nexus type device, since that is the purest version of Android, you get upgrades first, and thus have less reason to root :p

However, other devices benefit more from root, and there are still some apps out there that require root access.

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Well you also use a nexus type device, since that is the purest version of Android, you get upgrades first, and thus have less reason to root :p

However, other devices benefit more from root, and there are still some apps out there that require root access.

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I agree, although I didn't jump to root the Eris. My main complaint with the HTC Eris was the 500mhz cpu and tiny memory. It was one of the first Android phones out and was pitted against the initial Motorola Droid. In raw processing power, it actually was a tad faster than the Droid, but after that, it was weak in hardware functions and overall flexibility.
 

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I agree, although I didn't jump to root the Eris. My main complaint with the HTC Eris was the 500mhz cpu and tiny memory. It was one of the first Android phones out and was pitted against the initial Motorola Droid. In raw processing power, it actually was a tad faster than the Droid, but after that, it was weak in hardware functions and overall flexibility.

You can blame HTC sense for that...and it was actually a second generation Android phone, as Verizon didn't jump on the Android bandwagon to start, the Motorola G1was the first Android...released way back when on T -mobile...and I had the sprint version of the eris, the hero...so I know your pain with the limitations it had, however, mine was rooted and I saw few issues with it once sense was removed...and of course the OG evo was the next device I had, which at release, was in a class of its own, if I remember correctly the evo, droidX, sgs1,and iPhone 4 were all pretty much in a class by themselves until the dual core phones came to the US, I'm still a little peeved that Europe has quad core phones already, including the European version of the LTEvo.

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You can blame HTC sense for that...and it was actually a second generation Android phone, as Verizon didn't jump on the Android bandwagon to start, the Motorola G1was the first Android...released way back when on T -mobile...and I had the sprint version of the eris, the hero...so I know your pain with the limitations it had, however, mine was rooted and I saw few issues with it once sense was removed...and of course the OG evo was the next device I had, which at release, was in a class of its own, if I remember correctly the evo, droidX, sgs1,and iPhone 4 were all pretty much in a class by themselves until the dual core phones came to the US, I'm still a little peeved that Europe has quad core phones already, including the European version of the LTEvo.

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Im pretty sure the G1 was an HTC. I had it for awhile while on TMobile, then I got the G2. Now THAT was an awesome device! Alas, had to switch to Cricket because of financial issues but we wont talk about that POS phone. Now I have the GS3 on Verizon. The Galaxy Note 2 looks Saweeeet!!!
 

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Im pretty sure the G1 was an HTC. I had it for awhile while on TMobile, then I got the G2. Now THAT was an awesome device! Alas, had to switch to Cricket because of financial issues but we wont talk about that POS phone. Now I have the GS3 on Verizon. The Galaxy Note 2 looks Saweeeet!!!

Yeah, I got the G1 the day it came out. It was an HTC but it didn't run Sense. It was stock Android.

I also got the G2 and loved that phone. And now I'm on the GS3 and it's been pretty damn amazing if I must say.
 
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