Vaperz Cloud 25mm VCMT

[KGB7]

I'll be honest with you, it is an amazing tank, the air flow and flavor is top notch. Vaperz Clouds has set the bar. I want this tank badly.

Now here are the cons from my personal first hand experience.

1. This tank gobbles up juice, YMMV depends on the build. But, since the deck is so big, the coil builds are up to your imagination. Start stock piling on cheap juice(120ml for $20) or make your own juice.

2.The Derlin top cap is its weak point. Since the tank is top filled, you have to unscrew the Derlin top cap each time you want to fill it, thus the plastic threads will wear out quite fast, unless you are very very very very, very very careful each time you put the cap back on and you dont strip the threads or wear them out too quickly.

My friend who owns the tank, is not a coil build master, but with his simple dual twisted 26g coils, we emptied the tank at 50W, 0.2 ohm, faster then i have ever emptied Lemo 1 tank while chain vaping none stop( i have a highly modded Lemo 1). This tank is addicting to vape. Between the two of us chain vaping, 10ml was gone under half hour.

I havent had a chance to take it apart and examine every single component, but from what i can see while its assembled, it is of good quality.

My local shop in Rockville, MD (vape ink) has them in stock, both sizes.

I always prefered single coil tanks but, after trying this tank first hand, its difficult to go back to single coil.

It is an RDA with a 10ml capacity, with out the draw backs of an RDA that i can think of.

 

[mtbason35]

I'll be honest with you, it is an amazing tank, the air flow and flavor is top notch. Vaperz Clouds has set the bar. I want this tank badly.

Now here are the cons from my personal first hand experience.

1. This tank gobbles up juice, YMMV depends on the build. But, since the deck is so big, the coil builds are up to your imagination. Start stock piling on cheap juice(120ml for $20) or make your own juice.

2.The Derlin top cap is its weak point. Since the tank is top filled, you have to unscrew the Derlin top cap each time you want to fill it, thus the plastic threads will wear out quite fast, unless you are very very very very, very very careful each time you put the cap back on and you dont strip the threads or wear them out too quickly.

My friend who owns the tank, is not a coil build master, but with his simple dual twisted 26g coils, we emptied the tank at 50W, 0.2 ohm, faster then i have ever emptied Lemo 1 tank while chain vaping none stop( i have a highly modded Lemo 1). This tank is addicting to vape. Between the two of us chain vaping, 10ml was gone under half hour.

I havent had a chance to take it apart and examine every single component, but from what i can see while its assembled, it is of good quality.

My local shop in Rockville, MD (vape ink) has them in stock, both sizes.

I always prefered single coil tanks but, after trying this tank first hand, its difficult to go back to single coil.

It is an RDA with a 10ml capacity, with out the draw backs of an RDA that i can think of.

Did your buddies come with the stainless top cap as well? I thought I saw a description stating that it had both. I have several rda's with threaded delrin tips and while it seems impractical, I haven't had any issues with stripping them yet. I do imagine that this thing will guzzle the juice, I'm ok with that though. Hoping to see some online shops with these in stock soon, would love to see a review but doubt that will happen for a while.

Edit: It appears to be in stock at cloudycollabs.com now, very tempting, but so pricey!

 

[roxynoodle]

Yeah, the descriptions say it comes with a SS top cap, too. I sure hope it does because I really want it.

 

[PapaGeno21]

I gotta say my aromamizer eats juice like no ones business too so I wonder how much worse this is?

 

[KGB7]

Yes it comes with SS top too.

 

[mtbason35]

So apparently some guy on Instagram is using this thing to double as an RDA lol. Says it works and calls it a 30mm Kennedy.

 

[MMW]

Wth? No.

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

How would that work? Wouldn't it flood?

 

[mtbason35]

How would that work? Wouldn't it flood?

I'm sure he isn't filling the tank, only using it like a rda and re dripping when the cotton gets dry, not sure what top cap that is though.

 

[mtbason35]

Still appears that it wold have a pretty nice juice well, maybe 3 to 4ml below the coils.

 

[Landman]

Well, the 30mm came in today... man, that's a monster tank, lol. Going to put it through the cleaner and get it built this weekend.

 

[rhelton]

Well, the 30mm came in today... man, that's a monster tank, lol. Going to put it through the cleaner and get it built this weekend.

Wow that thing is ridiculous!

 

[mtbason35]

Well, the 30mm came in today... man, that's a monster tank, lol. Going to put it through the cleaner and get it built this weekend.

Awaiting your feedback. It will probably be the deciding factor for me, no pressure!

 

[mtbason35]

Especially since I also own the Cthulhu v2, Aromamizer rdta, and Crius. Looking forward to hear how it compares!

 

[Landman]

I couldn't wait to try it so a quick update before I go to bed... first build was a fail, lol. Used some Unkamen not-really-NiFe52/possibly Invar36 and since there was room galore in the deck, I made some 4mm coils and filled it up like a Subtank instead of using the top fill. Unfortunately, I don't think I had enough rayon in it though. Took a hit at 50w, then 75w, then 90w and on that 3rd hit where it was just starting to get some flavor, I heard a gurgle at the end of the hit, looked at the tank and saw it coming out of the afc. Spun it off the Reuleaux as fast as I could and got it turned upside down to save what juice was left.

Will attempt it again tomorrow. Regardless, I'm not so sure this will be a tank for me. I thought the SS cap was for regular 510 drip tips but it's not - both caps are super wide bore. Also, there's a juice flow control ring, but you have to manually line up where you want it to sit and then screw the deck cap on to hold it in place. I thought there would be a way to twist and close the flow for the top fill... without stopping the flow, top fill always leaks for me. If you unscrew the bottom to remove the deck, the chimney is relatively short so you can't put but maybe ~6ml in it. I should be able to get the flow under control and at least see how the flavor is though. With all the space in the deck, I think it's really aimed at clapton coil builds.

 

[roxynoodle]

So you can only use a huge drip tip? That's probably a deal breaker for me

 

[mtbason35]

I couldn't wait to try it so a quick update before I go to bed... first build was a fail, lol. Used some Unkamen not-really-NiFe52/possibly Invar36 and since there was room galore in the deck, I made some 4mm coils and filled it up like a Subtank instead of using the top fill. Unfortunately, I don't think I had enough rayon in it though. Took a hit at 50w, then 75w, then 90w and on that 3rd hit where it was just starting to get some flavor, I heard a gurgle at the end of the hit, looked at the tank and saw it coming out of the afc. Spun it off the Reuleaux as fast as I could and got it turned upside down to save what juice was left.

Will attempt it again tomorrow. Regardless, I'm not so sure this will be a tank for me. I thought the SS cap was for regular 510 drip tips but it's not - both caps are super wide bore. Also, there's a juice flow control ring, but you have to manually line up where you want it to sit and then screw the deck cap on to hold it in place. I thought there would be a way to twist and close the flow for the top fill... without stopping the flow, top fill always leaks for me. If you unscrew the bottom to remove the deck, the chimney is relatively short so you can't put but maybe ~6ml in it. I should be able to get the flow under control and at least see how the flavor is though. With all the space in the deck, I think it's really aimed at clapton coil builds.

Sounds like you definitely found some flaws. While it would have been nice if the top cap accepted 510 drip tips it's still not a deal breaker for me. The juice flow control, ehh I took my ring out of the Cthulhu v2, it seems as long as my wicking is good I don't run into leaking. It would be nice to be able to access the deck without having to vape half of the tank. The wick channels look like the MX RTA so I imagine you have to leave a ton of wick in them to avoid leaking/flooding. Hopefully your next build goes better bc I was pretty excited for this tank. Thanks for the update!

 

[roxynoodle]

Can someone measure the outside diameter of the drip tip of the 25mm?

 

[Landman]

Sounds like you definitely found some flaws. While it would have been nice if the top cap accepted 510 drip tips it's still not a deal breaker for me. The juice flow control, ehh I took my ring out of the Cthulhu v2, it seems as long as my wicking is good I don't run into leaking. It would be nice to be able to access the deck without having to vape half of the tank. The wick channels look like the MX RTA so I imagine you have to leave a ton of wick in them to avoid leaking/flooding. Hopefully your next build goes better bc I was pretty excited for this tank. Thanks for the update!

I forgot to check if the threads went all the way down to the base of the deck, but if they do and you didn't put the ring in, the flow ports would be completely closed when it was screwed all the way in and the top of the deck cap wouldn't thread far enough onto the chimney. If you screwed the deck cap onto the chimney first, then it might work without the ring. The ring has a kind of "hold the wicks in place/flow control" purpose.

I tore the build out and made a pair of crazywire 25ga/SS430/7.5 wrap/4mm coils and this time I used like 90% width of the strip of rayon as it comes out of the box (CelluCotton/Sally's). The flow ring is set to about 1/2 flow and it hasn't flooded so far. Started hitting it at 75w in power mode and the AFC is about 1/2 way open, which I'd say is a little more airy than the Aromamizer with all holes open... but it feels more than that with the 12mm ID widebore top. Took it to 100w and it still was just what I would call warm, but o...m...g... talk about a buzz.

Tried the top fill by tipping it just past half way over so the majority of the fluid was near the top and took the cap off and it didn't flood. The fill port is only on one side, so keeping the port at the top, I was able to take a 30ml bottle and get it fuller than the bottom fill method. Another thing about filling though, when I took out the deck to rebuild it, the deck cap stayed in the tank screwed to the chimney. It could have been filled this way to about max capacity, but as there's no way to secure the flow ring, it may be difficult to make sure the deck goes back in without disturbing the wicks and the flow ring not moving around. Since I didn't want to chance it the first time, I took needle nose pliers and unscrewed the deck cap so I could put it on the deck before attaching to the chimney.

I still can't get past the widebore "competition" drip top though... just not my cup of tea as the flavor seemed muted. If they'd added a 510 drip tip adapter, I think it could be an all day tank... maybe they'll come out with one in the future. Someone that likes the big chuff caps may very well love this tank, depending on if the flavor can be dialed in.

Just as a reference, it still hangs over the front of a Reuleaux, but it looks pretty sick on meh lipo Boxer!

 

[Stinkytofus]

thats a crazy huge tank lol