Vaping and Cutting Down on Smokes

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Rickajho

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Tons of us here do. But depending on your smoking history trying to do it with zero nic may be next to impossible. (It took me three months to completely lose a 30 year 2 PAD habit but I needed high nic to get there.) Are you doing the zero nic route by choice? Or because you haven't figgered out where to get liquids with nic up north?

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I smoked 2-3 packs of Marlboro Reds a day and chewed 2-3 bags of Red Man chew a week. I myself started out with 36-38nic level. After a few months I went down to 24nic. 24 is good for me now, I don't need that harsh hit type stuff anymore, I like to enjoy my flavors a bit more. Although I do have a shoe box filled with 36-38nic bottles. I use them every once in a while when I need a kick. And the fact I payed for them so I'm gonna use them up, slowly.
 

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I smoked 2-3 packs of Marlboro Reds a day and chewed 2-3 bags of Red Man chew a week. I myself started out with 36-38nic level. After a few months I went down to 24nic. 24 is good for me now, I don't need that harsh hit type stuff anymore, I like to enjoy my flavors a bit more. Although I do have a shoe box filled with 36-38nic bottles. I use them every once in a while when I need a kick. And the fact I payed for them so I'm gonna use them up, slowly.

WOW! That was a LOT of tobacco you were consuming. Good for you, for vaping instead!
 

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Maybe I'm making a mistake, but I'm trying 0 nicotine first. I think if I tried nicotine e-cigs I'd become addicted to them and I want to rid myself of all addiction.

Very cool, if it works for you then that's awsome. Vapeing is a hobby for me. Just something I enjoy doing. Even though I vape 24nic. I can go days to weeks without needing to use it. Cig's were a ball and chain around my ankle, I needed them all the time. Vapeing is just something to do. I'm not addicted to it by any means. But that's just me. Other people may quit the smokes and get addicted to vaping with nic juices. Still, vapeing is alot healthier than them dam death sticks. That's just my humble opinion.
 

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WOW! That was a LOT of tobacco you were consuming. Good for you, for vaping instead!

Thank you :) It wasn't easy, As most of us know how hard it is mentally and physically getting off cig's. Took me about 3-4 months to get over the hump were the cravings/urges started to fade away. Make no mistake I still have times I would love to have a smoke. When I get that feeling I just say to myself "I have come this far, why start that dam evil death stick cycle all over again."

Once an addict always an addict.
 

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Maybe I'm making a mistake, but I'm trying 0 nicotine first. I think if I tried nicotine e-cigs I'd become addicted to them and I want to rid myself of all addiction.

No, not necessarily a mistake. If it works, it works.

I initially started at 24mg/ml. Currently, depending on the juice delivery platform, I use either a 3mg or 6mg mix. I have rationed myself to about 4 to 6 ml a day of nic based juice, which goes quite fast, as RDAs are very thirsty. The large majority of my vaping day is 0mg.
 

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Maybe I'm making a mistake, but I'm trying 0 nicotine first. I think if I tried nicotine e-cigs I'd become addicted to them and I want to rid myself of all addiction.

Well, you can work with this any way you want - the flexibility we have is a huge advantage of vaping.

At the same time quitting smoking isn't as simple as "nicotine". What makes cigarettes so addictive is a very complex pile of crap you get out of the smoking experience, including trace amount of MAOI's (antidepressants.) A two step process seems to work better for most people: First, use a high enough nic level when vaping to deal with the withdrawal and cravings from quitting smoking. After that you can address reducing your nic level from vaping in any way you choose. But I will guarantee you that simple "addiction" (it's hard to even call it addiction) to nicotine from vaping isn't the huge monster that the addiction to smoking is.

A common misconception when starting is you are just replacing one addiction with another. Smoking and vaping are two very different processes, with two very different sets of chemical components produced that you are inhaling. Getting hooked on smoking is painfully easy. A non smoker getting hooked on just the nicotine from vaping - has been studied and reported that it doesn't really happen.

All I'm saying is: Find what you need in vaping to quit the smoking - where the real dangers lie. Deal with any beliefs or concerns you have about dropping nicotine out of the vaping equation after you have successfully quit.

As a personal aside: I don't know if I will ever say I'm completely over smoking. I just hit my three year anniversary, and still went through a two week craving fit thinking that having a smoke was "mentally" something I really wanted. Didn't happen. But it probably would have if I wasn't still vaping something with nicotine in it.
 

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It took me three months of vaping 24mg nic before I stopped smoking completely. Most people use some nic in their vapor to do this.

I cut my cig smoking in half at the start and gradually cut it down to 5-6 a day. I then replaced a time when I really craved smoking like first cig of the day for a week. After that after a meal and than all meals etc.... One day I just didn't buy anymore cigarettes. I didn't even realize when I had my last one. I didn't have that last cig freak out moment lol. It actually happened very naturally.

If you can do this with zero nic I would be very very impressed. Anything is possible. Good luck!
 

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I didn't even realize when I had my last one. I didn't have that last cig freak out moment lol. It actually happened very naturally.

This is one neat thing: I used to freak out when I had only a half-pack of cigarettes left and I planned out how I would ration them until I went to the store. I don't do that at all now. If I run out, I vape.
 

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Nicotine is not the bad part of smoking, why deprive yourself of it making things worse.

I started vaping with 24mg about two months ago, mostly using 18 these days. I have quite a bit of 24mg left though and will dam well vape it! might give some away. Not smoking at all, not saying I won't :) that would be way too much pressure. I dammed well will smoke if I want bur haven't since about five days after getting my gear in the mail.
 

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You went straight to 0-nic? That's intense :p

I smoked a pack a day for 6 years. The day after I bought a carton, I decided to go to the vape shop (I figured that if I couldn't quit right after buying a carton, I wouldn't be able to stay off of cigs anyway and there wasn't a point). In fact, I still have a pack left from that carton - the rest I've just given away to friends who still smoke. It's nice having that pack, next to a lighter, sitting in my room - it reminds me that there is nothing stopping me, but myself, from having another cigarette.

With 24mg, it was OK but not easy. However; it was absolutely doable. Being able to go from smoking to vaping is certainly possible, despite what the crap studies the government has been pushing say. I've done it. Many of us here on the forum have done it.

If you already cut that much out, what I would recommend is getting some 6 or 12 mg nicotine juice, and see if that can get you down to zero cigs. Then worry about going from 6/12 to zero after the fact. You could also cut your juice with VG to diluted the nicotine even more - I'm working on moving from 6 to 3 at the moment using added VG in a 6 nic juice.

Like other people have said here: nicotine is NOT the only addictive property of cigarettes. Look at it this way: the addictiveness of vaping is primarily the nicotine (at least it is for me, it was a challenge going from 24 to 18, then 18 to 12, etc). However, the addictiveness of cigarettes is much, much more. Swapping your nicotine delivery device is a huge win already - and it'll be easier to "quit" vaping (if that's what you want to do) after you've made the complete switch.

Think of it like an intermediate step. But I can promise you, that quitting via vaping is much more effective than cold turkey, or using a vaporizer as a supplement and not a replacement.
 

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Just wondering how many people have eventually quit smoking by vaping and cutting down on cigarettes. I'm vaping 0 nicotine and have cut my smoke consumption from a pack a day to 5 or 6 cigarettes a day. Of course, my goal is to quit cigarettes completely. It'll probably take a while this way.
I don't think it would have happened pile this with 0 nic but I'm not saying it wont for you.

I started vaping to cut back on smoking, mostly so at kid functions and when on family trips in our non smoking car I wasn't pulling my hair out.

I quit smoking cigarettes pretty much on accident. I was vaping an ego knockoff from the smoke shop with some good online juice a friend gave me (no B&M here at that time). I went from 1.5 to 2 packs of camel wides a day to like 2 or 3 cigarettes within a few days to a week. Then I realized they tasted gross and how much I cut back, ordered an MVP 2.0 and Aspire clearomizer. The FDA stuff was starting to surface and I felt I needed to be able to rally to my legislators being analog and cigarette free, so I quit smoking the couple a day I was having.

Mine was more unintentional when I started but I had nic, with you wanting to do it, I think you can for sure, if you don't succeed a lil nic might help if you decide it's right for you. I've gone from 18 mg in the ego (was probably too much but hell I'm a badass in my mind lol) to 6 mg as I improved my vaping setups. I could be fine with 3 I'd just need to vape more often and I use the command line on the computer a lot so no hands (camel bak mod for AutoCAD and typing in the works)
 

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My wife and I started about 6 weeks ago with the cigalike from the gas station. We both still had a few cigarettes/day. Once we found the right rigs, noc levels and liquid, neither of us have even wanted an analog. It's been over 4 weeks now. The few people I know who vape and still crave a smoke, just need to vape more IMHO.
 
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