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Vaping and the homeless
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don't give money to the homeless they will just spend it on cigs
just kidding
in the long run it could be cheaper for them but only if vaping turns mainstream,
they will have their egos and bum a little bit of juice just like they do for cigarettes (at least here in Mexico)
on the other hand there seems to be a lot of cheap Chinese counterfeit cigarettes here they buy without tax so I'm not sure how cheap will vaping compared to their smoking will be
just kidding
in the long run it could be cheaper for them but only if vaping turns mainstream,
they will have their egos and bum a little bit of juice just like they do for cigarettes (at least here in Mexico)
on the other hand there seems to be a lot of cheap Chinese counterfeit cigarettes here they buy without tax so I'm not sure how cheap will vaping compared to their smoking will be
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Then you should find another thread to post in
Don't worry. I'm out. I didn't realize I was posting in Candy Land where gumdrops grow off the trees and rivers flow with chocolate.
If you were, I'd totally be there too. I love gumdrops and chocolate....oooh think I just came up with a new DIY idea
Thanks!
I find this thread strangely compelling. Who's gonna say what next and man.....I'm really liken' this gumdrops and chocolate idea!!!
I read this thread, and at first I thought "hmm, offering something to people who haven't got much to help them hold on to whatever little money they have sounds like a good idea."
But then another thought struck me: switching to vaping has worked for me because I basically have a pampered little life, allowing me to worry about my health, to carefully try this or that juice/clearo/battery, to charge my e-cigs at night, to fine-tune my coils, to take care of my vaping gear when I out and about, etc.
What's a guy on the street - even assuming they have all their marbles, which isn't always the case - gonna do with a delicate eGo battery, a clearo and bottles of juice?
What I can see happen is, they fall asleep on the street and roll over their gear, they get robbed at the shelter, the laundromat owner kicks them out when they plug in their charger, the laundromat owner kicks them out for hanging around too long inside the facility waiting for the charge to complete, the dogs chews the bottles of juice... And once the juice runs out, who do they "bum a vape" from? And do you really think they have time to make vaping work for them? They have other things to worry about I reckon.
This thread made me realize vaping is something for people who don't have it rough - or at least, not so rough that all they think about is surviving another day, finding something to eat and a place to sleep tonight. So, nice idea in theory, but completely unworkable in real life.
But then another thought struck me: switching to vaping has worked for me because I basically have a pampered little life, allowing me to worry about my health, to carefully try this or that juice/clearo/battery, to charge my e-cigs at night, to fine-tune my coils, to take care of my vaping gear when I out and about, etc.
What's a guy on the street - even assuming they have all their marbles, which isn't always the case - gonna do with a delicate eGo battery, a clearo and bottles of juice?
What I can see happen is, they fall asleep on the street and roll over their gear, they get robbed at the shelter, the laundromat owner kicks them out when they plug in their charger, the laundromat owner kicks them out for hanging around too long inside the facility waiting for the charge to complete, the dogs chews the bottles of juice... And once the juice runs out, who do they "bum a vape" from? And do you really think they have time to make vaping work for them? They have other things to worry about I reckon.
This thread made me realize vaping is something for people who don't have it rough - or at least, not so rough that all they think about is surviving another day, finding something to eat and a place to sleep tonight. So, nice idea in theory, but completely unworkable in real life.
They can charge them the same place they charge their Obamasmartphones...
It depends on how much they have left. Maybe my concern is more for the episodic than the chronic.
If you so so so want them to vape.
Wait when vaping will be legal and donate how much your heart desires to a shelters. There it will be properly taken care of. Also there they will be able to fill up tanks with juice.
Wait when vaping will be legal and donate how much your heart desires to a shelters. There it will be properly taken care of. Also there they will be able to fill up tanks with juice.
Possibly. I've never been confronted to poverty and homelessness, but I've read that the longer you spend on the street, the harder it is to get out of it - and it takes surprisingly little time to go in so deep that you can't dig yourself out. Apparently, even well educated, formerly well-to-do people who become homeless can quickly get sucked into living a rough street life, never to recover from it, and stop considering anything other than survival, and escaping their dire reality through alcohol and drugs, for many of them. These are not ideal living conditions to vape for the majority of them, I believe. But I could be wrong, I don't know anything about homelessness. It just seems that way.
I have seen a shelter where the office would buy a few packs, and residents could buy one for a quarter. Technically illegal, I think, but it did resolve a problem.
Many of the homeless people I see are nervous and bored. I don't believe they are exclusively smoking butts. I can see some of them vaping away continuously and being more relaxed, cleaner, happier, healthier, warmer and less poor.
Did I read someone say "wait til vaping becomes legal"? Did something happen that I don't know about?
Naaa, what i meant when things will be more clear for public then now days, and you will not be kicked out with your donation with comment - how can you offer this poison to this poor ppl.
My main concern with this whole idea is where the hell is a homeless person going to get juice when they run out?
It is SO much easier to bum a few cigs off of someone than it is to bum a bottle of juice.
It is SO much easier to bum a few cigs off of someone than it is to bum a bottle of juice.
Social services organizations could use juice as a hook to get people to keep coming back-- like getting those who are mentally ill to take their meds and an occasional shower.
I hate this thread, but it keeps sucking me in. Leave now brother or be forever ensnared in its vile grip.
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