Vaping at the movies....
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Enders Game was friggn awesome!
We sat near the front, and I did not vape. Afterwards I went out front and puffed away while waiting on the wife to come out of the bathroom. Two theatre employess were out front vaping as well. They asked about my clone, and we bs'd for a minute. They said they dont care if people vape in there, but it is against policy.
We sat near the front, and I did not vape. Afterwards I went out front and puffed away while waiting on the wife to come out of the bathroom. Two theatre employess were out front vaping as well. They asked about my clone, and we bs'd for a minute. They said they dont care if people vape in there, but it is against policy.
That's because a cigarette delivers full nic mg at one take. The ecig delivers the full nic mg over the time vaped. Plus, one can smoke 15 puffs in 3-5 minutes, but Vapers cannot. The eCig needs time to reWick, etc... Or you'll be dry burning like Talbot. The time it takes to vape 15 drags is quite a bit different from smoking. Plus, because the nic is different in an ecig, it would probably take at least 30 puffs to feel the same satisfaction. This is really difficult for newbies. Heck, it's difficult for vets on bad days.
You of all people should know this.
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What I fear is unfettered vaping- even with discretion, will lead to draconian regulations. We live in a 'progressive' society that is not ready for vaping, unless stated it is allowed. If I were in that situation, I would hold off from going to a movie, as I would flying.
I know addiction; I had a serious problem with alcohol years ago. If vaping ruled my life as bad as alcohol did, I'd go back to smoking. As it is, I grew out of my alcohol addiction (well, my wife, then friend, said she'd date me if I quit drinking) , as I believe many new vapers probably will grow out of their initial 24/7 vape habit. Being able to sit through a movie without a vape would be a good step.
*I* couldn't,,,,,,I'd just feel way too conspicuous,,,,,,,and I'd feel like I was being rude (even if I was being really really considerate),,,,,,,,that's just me,,,
might depend on how full the theater is for you,,,,,,,,,if you can sit in the back away from people, it might be more possible than if the theater is really full.
might depend on how full the theater is for you,,,,,,,,,if you can sit in the back away from people, it might be more possible than if the theater is really full.
Ps. The way around that, of course, is to vape a 36mg but 36 is too strong in a pg (stealth) mix and requires a VG (clouds) mix.
Pick your battle for public vaping. Stealth or clouds. We are ex-smokers and will fight to the death to stay that way. I don't care what busy bodies think, they're not the ones splurging for our funerals.
Pick your battle for public vaping. Stealth or clouds. We are ex-smokers and will fight to the death to stay that way. I don't care what busy bodies think, they're not the ones splurging for our funerals.
My little 2cents is that people vaping in theaters, restaurants, walmart, etc is exactly the reason why towns, cities and states want to out right ban vaping.
Yes, you and I know there is research coming out of US colleges and out of Greece that show vaping is a lot safer than smoking. However, the normal people,I call them Muggles like in Harry Potter, simply don't know and often don't care to know. It upsets them when people breath huge clouds on them.
So the Muggles get a bad impression of us. They go and tell all their other muggle friends.. and soon there is just one more place that bans us.
It's a give and take.. we have to give people in confined spaces some space so that in turn they don't take our rights away. Don't ruin it for everyone.
Yes, you and I know there is research coming out of US colleges and out of Greece that show vaping is a lot safer than smoking. However, the normal people,I call them Muggles like in Harry Potter, simply don't know and often don't care to know. It upsets them when people breath huge clouds on them.
So the Muggles get a bad impression of us. They go and tell all their other muggle friends.. and soon there is just one more place that bans us.
It's a give and take.. we have to give people in confined spaces some space so that in turn they don't take our rights away. Don't ruin it for everyone.
ya stand up in the theater and start educating everyone during the movie that will go ever very well. funny guy.
vaping in your home home is your choice. you own your house. i am sorry do you own the theater? if you own the property where you vape and your okay with it knock yourself out, your car go ahead its yours do what you like. a public theater, restaurant etc.. no. me and you may know that the vapor inst harmful, but the uneducated silly mom with 2 kids under 6 doesn't. you have proven to everyone in your statement that your a pretty ignorant person. people like you are the ones ruining it for everyone. respect the owner of the properties rules, its a privilege to be there not a right. you ruin that privilege, your ... is getting kicked out. owner/operator doesn't care if its not harmful, if its just vapor bla bla bla. if his patrons complain about you he has the potential to lose money if they leave or never return, so guess what? dont let the door hit you in the ... on the way out.
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Even after the body adjusts, we are conditioned to stress out in public.. We've been so persecuted as smokers, it's rare to not feel strange when finally going out on the town. Even the vets need a stealth vape. To deny anyone their right to refrain from literally smoking, is just wrong.
Education is the key. Once the public is educated, the nosey bodies can ask me kindly to stealth vape. Wouldn't that be a nice gesture. Sometimes we might be in deep thought & not hear others approach where we are standing. To be asked, with consideration, at those times, would be the most ultimate consider ever.
The persecuting of others has got to stop.
thank you, Uma
@RavBunneh:
that is not true. The ANTZ have been pushing for vaping bans ever since 2009, when vapers were few and far between.
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That's true. You know what one of their favourite arguments is? That e-cigarettes basically exist to let smokers evade the smoking ban.
Maybe if we vape constantly in loads of places where smoking is banned, without permission, it'll help...
Well put!thank you, Uma
@RavBunneh:
that is not true. The ANTZ have been pushing for vaping bans ever since 2009, when vapers were few and far between.
Please read the postings by wv2win. That member knows.
Thank you
It is well documented, the ANTZ pushing for bans, before the leaders have even seen a Vaper vaping.
Here's just one example.. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...492048-cities-being-paid-ban-x-stevevape.html
Visit places like RWF, and read their "healthier communities, healthier world" crap, see how they are promoting bans on not only smoking, bu vaping, obesity, sugar, you name it, all in preparation for sin taxes. They give grants to communities, Glantz, etc... They are j & j in reality, the owners of Pfizer, the makers/sellers of smoking cessation products which the eCigs is nudging out.
There are a lot of blogs, websites, etc,, confirming this.
It is not my stealth vaping in crowded or indoor places, nor is it my cloud vaping in outdoors and private.
These so called "experts" really need to educate themselves. Anything they say, so far to date, is completely laughable. They are experts in demonizing, that is all. Of course they would say that. That's one more reason we need to educate.
Precisely
A little "light reading" for those who actually think that it is the vapers themselves who are to blame for bans and persecution:
Rampant Antismoking Signifies Grave Danger
Just one tiny little excerpt:
That, by the way, is from 1975. About smoking.
The same agenda is being followed now. To include vaping.
It is not the vapers we need to be concerned about.
Neither were the witchhunts of the Middle Ages occasioned by the existence of "witches" who "magically" flew around on brooms and had the "magical" ability to make children sick just by looking at them.
Then, like now, there were completely different motivations. Like money. And power.
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Remember back when the movies used to be packed? I so miss those days. The ANTZ have it all to themselves now, like ghost towns. Even the bowling ally's have closed down.
I've stealth vaped in the movies, no problem. One of these days there will be full theaters again, with 3/4 of us stealth vaping.. Those who billow clouds will have to pay a 5 buck fine, on their second citation. I wonder if the price of movie going will decrease again once all of us old patrons start patronizing again.
You know, Steve, that addict comment has no place in situations like this. Newbies, especially, are terrified of going too long between puffs, which they KNOW produces the Jonesies. Being able to take a stealth puff as needed should never be frowned upon. What should be frowned upon is belittling and demeaning others to follow someone else's pattern or agenda. Sorry, if this sounds uppity, but it's the nicest I can sound at the moment.
I REALLY... REALLY.. I mean REALLY, doubt it was the ANTZ that caused any decline in patrons going to the movies. I would sooner believe some psycho shooting up a full theater in Colorado had caused more people to not go to the movies than a smoking ban. But seriously, the age of instantly getting the new movies via torrents of movie captures, or rips from DVD's of new releases that says "Property of (insert studio name here)" has made the large impact of people not wanting to pay 11-15 dollars for the movie experience.
I don't go to movies because I have a 2 year old. I redbox and netflix everything. I am courteous enough to not bring my loud child to a movie. Now unless it is going to be a kids movie where I could care less because there will be tons of rowdy kids there.
A funny story took place when my wife and I were at the movies with her twins a few years back when Toy Story 3 just came out. Place was packed full of kids as expected. And during the movie, some douche behind us kept on sighing and making comments about how he cannot enjoy the movie with all these kids laughing and having a good time. He said it was disturbing how many parents would let their kids get noisy in a public movie theater. I turned around and literally laughed out loud. I told him only pedophiles would go see Toy Story 3 by himself....
***Note*** Not saying that all guys who goes to see Kids movies by themselves are pedophiles..
Good link, Anja!!
Another excerpt
"One of the most disturbing, perverse, presentations was that of Arthur Chesterfield-Evans of the Non-Smokers' Movement of Australia. Chesterfield-Evans presentation adds further layers to the politicizing of antismoking and a workable tactical route. He indicates “[r]arely is this organised into an overall strategy and rarely do any of these groups cooperate in a strategic or even tactical sense.” He suggests how various groups within antismoking can strategically and tactically work together towards the common antismoking goal, i.e., orchestrated propaganda. Repugnant are the tactics to manipulate/deceive decision-makers. For example, more radical groups can put initial pressure on decision-makers. Other groups, seemingly less radical, can then be the ones to pursue discussions with decision-makers. Furthermore, “[t]hese more conservative bodies should not directly criticise activists.” These groups are working in concert. In this fashion, government health departments could be manipulated towards a radical view without realizing it. Chesterfield-Evans also reinforced the idea of ‘media management."
Another excerpt
"One of the most disturbing, perverse, presentations was that of Arthur Chesterfield-Evans of the Non-Smokers' Movement of Australia. Chesterfield-Evans presentation adds further layers to the politicizing of antismoking and a workable tactical route. He indicates “[r]arely is this organised into an overall strategy and rarely do any of these groups cooperate in a strategic or even tactical sense.” He suggests how various groups within antismoking can strategically and tactically work together towards the common antismoking goal, i.e., orchestrated propaganda. Repugnant are the tactics to manipulate/deceive decision-makers. For example, more radical groups can put initial pressure on decision-makers. Other groups, seemingly less radical, can then be the ones to pursue discussions with decision-makers. Furthermore, “[t]hese more conservative bodies should not directly criticise activists.” These groups are working in concert. In this fashion, government health departments could be manipulated towards a radical view without realizing it. Chesterfield-Evans also reinforced the idea of ‘media management."
OMG, this is my biggest pet peeve of all time! Why people can't go for two hours without turning their phone off is beyond me--and so few people bother to think about how distracting cell phone screen light can be in a theater!
I completely agree that anything that might distract others from enjoying the movie is not okay--whether it smells or is harmful isn't the issue.
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