Vaping etiquete revisited

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I have a friend whose about to start vaping. She wasn't very happy when I suggested she not do it where smoking was prohibited. She told me that to her, that was the biggest benefit. I explained to her that to nonsmokers, its the same thing. They don't understand its not smoke or dangerous to them. Then they just want it banned. They see it as smokers finding a way to get around laws and flaunt it in their faces. She also didn't know Cleveland has banned it in city parks.
 

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Nothing to do with OP...i get what the OP is doing. Outside of that... the thought of some guy hucking clouds in a stance, chest all busted out in Best Buy or Chucky Cheese or some place is both laughable and horrifying to me...that's the kind of thing that's gonna shut this down ;)

Oh the mental image hahaha I would walk up to that guy and his beanie and be like "Really?"

Vaping is NOT smoking. If we agree that it is (by only vaping where smoking is allowed) then we lose.
 

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Vaping is NOT smoking. If we agree that it is (by only vaping where smoking is allowed) then we lose.

Incorrect, it's just common (or uncommon) courtesy.

I don't wear excessive cologne or perfume's either (although some without common courtesy do), not because those things are the same as smoking, but because some people might be bothered by it.

The term "where smoking is allowed" does not equate vaping to smoking, but it establishes the ability to vape in a location that is already permeated with offensive smells. It does not necessarily exclude other environments, but without getting into a dissertation, it's the simplest way to get the point across. I would also probably vape in a barn when shoveling manure, for example, even though smoking's probably not allowed there.
 

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What will you fine folks do when smoking is no longer allowed Anywhere?

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

While reading through the thread, I figured I was going to be the only one going against the flow. By voluntarily agreeing not to vape where smoking is not allowed, we ourselves have categorized vaping as smoking.

Flaunt it? No! Just be reasonable and don't be afraid to ask before vaping. But if we are all "hiding out" while vaping, who is going to educate the non-vaping public?
 

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Incorrect, it's just common (or uncommon) courtesy.

I don't wear excessive cologne or perfume's either (although some without common courtesy do), not because those things are the same as smoking, but because some people might be bothered by it.

The term "where smoking is allowed" does not equate vaping to smoking, but it establishes the ability to vape in a location that is already permeated with offensive smells. It does not necessarily exclude other environments, but without getting into a dissertation, it's the simplest way to get the point across. I would also probably vape in a barn when shoveling manure, for example, even though smoking's probably not allowed there.

Incorrect. I can't smoke at work (indoors) but I vape at my desk. Nobody cares.
 

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I am not trying to hide, but by vaping in the middle of the store I am drawing a battle line that I have no desire to defend in the middle of my shopping. I feel as though a lot of people are far too aggressive with their vaping. I understand that it is not the same as smoking, but I'm not willing to bang my head against a brick wall to convince random person of that. I will write to representatives about it and I will discuss it with people that are against it, but I will NOT disrespect their comfort zone and put myself at a distinct disadvantage by vaping in a place that smoking isn't allowed. ANTZ are not going to be reasonable if people are in their face, blowing clouds and it's incredibly unrealistic to think it will do any good. Words are your friends... not clouds in the middle of a store.
 

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What will you fine folks do when smoking is no longer allowed Anywhere?

Maybe I was raised wrong, but I don't look for trouble. But that doesn't mean that I will give in to Totalitarianism.
The reality is that BT, BP, BG would never allow that to happen. That would Kill their Tax/Money supply.
The whole Health issue is nothing but a Smokescreen to reinvigorate the slumping Tobacco Tax and profits of the BT & BP companies that Own BG.
 

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Incorrect. I can't smoke at work (indoors) but I vape at my desk. Nobody cares.

I believe the initial post was referring to places where you didn't know whether or not vaping was allowed. Certainly, if vaping is allowed somewhere (and smoking isn't), it's perfectly fine to vape there - there's lots of places like that (including your work, apparently), and has nothing to do with etiquette. It doesn't make my statement incorrect - just your understanding of the discussion.
 

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I believe the initial post was referring to places where you didn't know whether or not vaping was allowed. Certainly, if vaping is allowed somewhere (and smoking isn't), it's perfectly fine to vape there - there's lots of places like that (including your work, apparently), and has nothing to do with etiquette. It doesn't make my statement incorrect - just your understanding of the discussion.

I understand the discussion perfectly: A lot of people stating that they only vape where smoking is ALLOWED is what I am reading here. I vape where ever I choose and have never had a problem.

I am not confrontational, I am courteous, and I don't feel a need to vape in places where folks may take offense. I don't blow clouds of vapor in peoples faces. If I want to vape in a non-smoking area, I do. It has worked for me to this point. I just will not acquiesce to anyone who is so misinformed that they lump vaping in with smoking, if I do then am I not agreeing with them on some level? All that says to me is that they are misinformed and I will gladly help them (politely) to understand. I we allow ourselves to be treated as smokers, then we will certainly be more easily categorized as such.

Is that clear?
 

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I understand the discussion perfectly: A lot of people stating that they only vape where smoking is ALLOWED is what I am reading here. I vape where ever I choose and have never had a problem.

I am not confrontational, I am courteous, and I don't feel a need to vape in places where folks may take offense. I don't blow clouds of vapor in peoples faces. If I want to vape in a non-smoking area, I do. It has worked for me to this point. I just will not acquiesce to anyone who is so misinformed that they lump vaping in with smoking, if I do then am I not agreeing with them on some level? All that says to me is that they are misinformed and I will gladly help them (politely) to understand. I we allow ourselves to be treated as smokers, then we will certainly be more easily categorized as such.

Is that clear?

I agree. I don't think we have a definition of vaping anymore. I have never been a cloud chaser, but if it happens, it is at home or in my car.
When I'm out I use an eroll with 100% PG liquid. That makes it very easy to stealth vape. I think it probably helps for non-smokers to see someone feed the beast without the clouds. They just look at me curiously because, that may just be a pen in my mouth... The only media spots are vape shop cloud chasers.
What is to stop me from sitting in a restaurant with an unlit cigarette in my mouth? Is that banned too??
What is vaping? If I don't exhale any vapor, am I still vaping?
What if I take the atomizer out and just make the little blue light flash? Am I still vaping?
I just hate unenforceable knee jerk legislation.
But as a community, we are kind of asking for it. Be considerate.
 
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