Vaping Health Risk Questions!?!?!?!?

[henney2280]

Hi all im new to vaping, but i feel im doing really well..... 24 days without a real cigarette. so anyway im not going to lie i LOVE smoking, and i now love vaping. my addiction to cigarettes is the whole inhaling and exhaling smoke i love it, i will sit there blowing smoke rings all day! so vaping is the perfect subsitute for smoking.

Anyway im doing alot of research and i cant find anything to say what actual problems vaping causes, can someone please enlighten me on just how bad vaping is for you? one big plus point for me is that ive herd vaping isnt damaging my health, but now ive looked into it abit more i read things that suggest otherwise but i dont really understand just how bad vaping is for you.

Im only 22 and been smoking since i was 14-15 but the thought of cigarettes killing me, wrecking my teeth, making me smell, really puts me off them now. so i really need sum answers about vaping... i love it and dont want to quit if it isnt going to kill me or cause serious health problems...

Thanks in advance

 

[J.R. Bob Dobbs]

if you look for something and feel you have been diligent in your searching and yet you cannot find anything what does that tell you?

perhaps there is nothing to be found.


Vaping has not been around long enough to fully determine health benefits or long term risks. There are some problems, but mostly due to sensitivity to PG and issues with flavorings. But the flavorings stuff has been mostly taken care of.

 

[Hulamoon]

Depends on the sources you're reading. What sort of info have you read, and from where, regarding the negative effects of vaping? One thing is certain - vaping is a whole lot healthier than lighting tobacco and inhaling tar....MOAI's.....arsenic and all the other thousands of horrible things that are put into a cigarette.

 

[LucentShadow]

Hi. There are very few studies on e-cigs so far, so it's difficult to say much about the possible risks. Many health professionals seem to think that they must be much safer than smoking, but there are others that would argue against that.

IMO, testing all of the different chemical mixes that are currently available to vape is impossible, so there can never be any real, useable data on the safety of general e-cig use. The multitude of flavoring mixes (and even colorings) are the big factor here. While most have been approved for a certain amount of oral consumption, most have little data on inhalation effects.

Inhalation of PG, VG, water, and nicotine can be studied, and has been to some extent. I've never been convinced of anything in particular in all of the various studies that I've read over time on these, but they seem likely to be fairly safe.

Flavorings are largely unknown, and I try to avoid ones likely to contain diacetyl or any of it's evil sisters. Mostly buttery or custard flavorings may have those. Most flavoring companies involved have been working to be transparent about those.

Check out this sub-forum for some more info:

Health, Safety and E-Smoking

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[Saintly1]

I agree with all of the above but would like to add that the people that "suggest otherwise" don't have evidence to indicate that it is bad for you, they just don't have enough evidence to say that it's not. It's a fairly new world we're entering here and are doing so at our own risk. The majority of the ingredients we are inhaling have been tested to an extent and are safe as far as we know today. Further testing will have to be done for the long term effects and possibly the combination of the ingredients. Just because you have 2 safe ingredients doesn't mean it's safe when you combine them together.

 

[Heavyrocker]

Just dont go with a high nic level like 24mg,36 or 48mg,start of with a low 6 mg or 12mg and keep track of your blood pressure.

 

[DuaneNeveu]

Anyway im doing alot of research and i cant find anything to say what actual problems vaping causes, can someone please enlighten me on just how bad vaping is for you? one big plus point for me is that ive herd vaping isnt damaging my health, but now ive looked into it abit more i read things that suggest otherwise but i dont really understand just how bad vaping is for you.

A word of caution...

Studies have been done, and are being done. Announcements and findings have been published. In anything you read, just beware of whether the science is sponsored by a body with a vested interest in the results. That is key.

Oh yeah, the FDA (a federal organization) doesn't like it, but they're fine with Chantix. Do you suppose your health really matters to them all that much?

 

[Tanti]

Just dont go with a high nic level like 24mg,36 or 48mg,start of with a low 6 mg or 12mg and keep track of your blood pressure.

My BP dropped when I stopped analog and started vaping.

 

[Tanti]

PG and VG are already used in medical situations. PG is used in injectables, breathing items, and commonly used in the medical field. VG is also used in many products you take enternally. The side effect of PG and VG is dry mouth and throat, and can cause some dehydration so drink your water. My lungs are the clearest they have been in years and that would be from the PG.
We know food grade flavors are fine ingested but not known inhaled.
and of course Nic we have been getting that internally for years so we know about that.

Id say compaired to what you were getting with an analog nothing could be as bad.

 

[Heavyrocker]

My BP dropped when I stopped analog and started vaping.

I hear this a lot too,i guess it depends on the person,just want everyone to play is safe,i was chain vaping 24mg and it went up,its ok now,im doing 5mg amd quite satisfied,what you vaping 12 mg seems the norm.

 

[Heavyrocker]

PG and VG are already used in medical situations. PG is used in injectables, breathing items, and commonly used in the medical field. VG is also used in many products you take enternally. The side effect of PG and VG is dry mouth and throat, and can cause some dehydration so drink your water. My lungs are the clearest they have been in years and that would be from the PG.
We know food grade flavors are fine ingested but not known inhaled.
and of course Nic we have been getting that internally for years so we know about that.

Id say compaired to what you were getting with an analog nothing could be as bad.

VG is used in eye drops,say no more.

 

[Unc1987]

This is how I feel, vaping isn't healthy, it's not good to inhale large amounts of anything into your lungs. I personally don't like to see people use the term 'healthier' when compared to smoking. Certainly, it's not as bad for you. There is some research literature out there suggesting all sorts of things, depending on who has published it. The best possible thing to say is we just don't know, for now. Hopefully one day we will learn that it's not bad for you, as it's not bad to breathe in water vapor from the shower. (I would think the flavor and color is what's bad in this case). For me, I vape because its better than the alternative. I'm just giving my two cents and being realistic, I know a lot of people will feel different. But do some research and decide for yourself.

 

[NicLiq]

This goes off in another direction a little bit, but I went through what you're going through about the same time. What I ended up realizing is it was the cigarettes talking - I wanted to find anything I could wrong with vaping because there HAD TO BE SOMETHING SERIOUS that someone was missing, and if it was bad, I might as well be smoking because I really really liked that, it was my best friend.

Nearly 2 years later, I can honestly say that switching was the best decision I have ever made in my life.

 

[Heavyrocker]

This is how I feel, vaping isn't healthy, it's not good to inhale large amounts of anything into your lungs. I personally don't like to see people use the term 'healthier' when compared to smoking. Certainly, it's not as bad for you. There is some research literature out there suggesting all sorts of things, depending on who has published it. The best possible thing to say is we just don't know, for now. Hopefully one day we will learn that it's not bad for you, as it's not bad to breathe in water vapor from the shower. (I would think the flavor and color is what's bad in this case). For me, I vape because its better than the alternative. I'm just giving my two cents and being realistic, I know a lot of people will feel different. But do some research and decide for yourself.

I make my own flavouring from organic plants and herbs.I extract the flavours using VG and or PG.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/toweknee/3495-extraction-process.html


UPDATE:

I tried making the coffee extract flavouring with the above link,didnt work for me,it tasted awful and burnt.

 

[Chiku]

Vapeing maybe not be healthy, but I am sure it is better than the alternative. When it comes to studies, they seem to be very biased a lot of the times. Eg. Eggs are bad, eggs are good, and then the latest one I saw, eggs are worse than smoking. The criteria, included, and excluded data, and bias(which we all have) seem to make a huge difference. Don't read one study, and decide that it is gospel, cause one will come along that disproves it.

 

[Tanti]

This is how I feel, vaping isn't healthy, it's not good to inhale large amounts of anything into your lungs. I personally don't like to see people use the term 'healthier' when compared to smoking. Certainly, it's not as bad for you. There is some research literature out there suggesting all sorts of things, depending on who has published it. The best possible thing to say is we just don't know, for now. Hopefully one day we will learn that it's not bad for you, as it's not bad to breathe in water vapor from the shower. (I would think the flavor and color is what's bad in this case). For me, I vape because its better than the alternative. I'm just giving my two cents and being realistic, I know a lot of people will feel different. But do some research and decide for yourself.

when you go outside you are inhaling large amounts of things every day. Cars going by, floria, chemicals, so on and so on.
What I was saying before what few chemicals that might be coming from vaping is not even close to what smoking did. thousands of chemicals. I worked in a pharmacy, I know what PG and VG are, they are used in the medical field all the time. PG is used in breathers and interveniously. There are plenty of people out there that dont want to see this happen (vaping), so you really have to look at where the study is done and by who and what is their agenda.

BTW the PG helped clear my lungs out of the congestion I had and have had for a very long time from smoking. I didnt cough at all today for the first time in a very long time.

 

[Clovery]

This is a concern of mine, too. I've been vaping for 8 months, after a 10 year pack a day habit. I can tell you that my blood pressure and resting heart rate have gone down and I don't cough up gobs of nasty crap in the morning. It's definitely in the back of my mind that someday someone might publish that the ingredients of our vapes cause X health problem, but right now there's no research or studies available. I've read up on it extensively. The research that says it's safe is questionable, and there's really nothing legitimate that says it's unsafe. IMO if the alternative is smoking then vaping is a good choice.

 

[Unc1987]

Governments want to find something bad with vaping so they can have a reason to tax it somewhere near equal as cigarettes. Think they care about your health? Or did your health all of the sudden become important when the economy went south and cigarettes were an easy way to raise tax revenue? Now they're losing revenue and they need a reason to justify gaining some of it back...