Realsis, big congratulations on your 100+ days!! Anyone who smokes (or has been addicted to anything) knows what a big accomplishment that is! Anyone who cannot be supportive about vaping in place of smoking has issues of their own.
vaping is NOT smoking!!
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So, Sister-in-Law, your tea kettle smokes, your hot shower smokes, your chicken soup smokes, your facial steam machine smokes, your hot apple pie smokes! You poor thang! What are you gonna DO?!!!! 
Of course, this is assuming she and your brother never use a fireplace, firepit, grill or campfire, light candles, incense, use room spray deodorants or Fabreeze.
As others have said here, she's the one with "issues". Enjoy yourself, Realsis; and ignore the "know nothings". 
Of course, this is assuming she and your brother never use a fireplace, firepit, grill or campfire, light candles, incense, use room spray deodorants or Fabreeze.
As others have said here, she's the one with "issues".
Enjoy yourself, Realsis; and ignore the "know nothings". 
let me clarify.there are zero,none, nod ya,zilch,goose egg, studies taking nicotine alone by it self. the only studies ever done were with nicotine incorporated in the product which would be tobacco. current studies indicate nicotine with the combustible substances enhances any addictive quality.nicotine by itself is no where near as addictive as currently considered.i am getting tired tonight so here is a link.
http://www.ecigarette-politics.com/the-great-nicotine-myth.html
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mike
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Well, if that's true, I imagine that's because in past people did not intake nicotine (in the quantities that are in tobacco) in other vehicles, other than tobacco. Human studies where people, who were not already nicotine users, and were given nicotine, would definitely be unethical, so I'm not surprised if these studies never took place. I would expect there would have been animal studies and if you have seen any, I would be interested in seeing those. Now that people are vaping, my guess is that studies will be done. I am aware of the additives that are used in cigarette manufacture and the health issues associated with the inhalation of combusted materials. This is why I switched to vaping. While nicotine isn't, by far, the worst ingredient in cigarettes, it does have negative health implications for some people. All the being said, and seeing the small numbers of vapers who quit vaping or want to quit vaping, I expect that nicotine is addictive to some extent.
My BIL said the same thing to me. I told him I quit smoking and that I was vaping. He just said "you're still smoking" and I said no, I was vaping. And that was the end of that. He smokes I don't know how many packs of Marlboro Reds a day so meh, whatever. Everyone at work who knows that I haven't smoked a cigarette in over a week (I'm new to this) thinks it's awesome but always asks if I'm going to eventually stop vaping as well. I guess the end goal is to not be dependent on anything so I just say probably. Point is, you're doing it for you and not them so let them think whatever they want.
Interesting article, although I'd like to see citations for the studies that they are referencing. I have a hard time excepting information without a source. A more formal meta-analysis would be helpful.
Damn right vaping is not smoking!! Congrats on your 100 days, I'm coming up on 60 in two weeks.
It's just gonna take some time before people get it through their thick skulls that vaping is in fact not smoking and is a lot safer for you. Congrats on your 100 day achievement.
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I don't even like it that here it's called e-smoking I would prefer that the word smoking isn't used,and just call it what it is(vaping). Keep on vaping on
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I haven't read this whole thread yet. But to the OP, I have had an experience like yours recently with some family members who just learned I vape now. My conclusion is this: Sometimes it's not easy to be the person sewing the first seeds of a new idea. I had an aunt who wouldn't see vaping as anything other than smoking....and then when her son sat her down & told her it wasn't smoking but VAPING she listened to him. She didn't listen to me at that point but after hearing him on the subject she was very open to seeing her daughter in law move from smoking to vaping. Yet if I had not talked to her about it she would never have talked to him so then if I had not endured the skepticism she would not have learned about it.
Well, have you quit smoking or not? Which one is it?
Sorry, but I must disagree.
If a person has quit inhaling smoke, then by definition, that person has quit smoking. Nevermind the nicotine, we were not called "nicotine-addicts", we were called smokers. The stigma we suffered was all about smoke and it's health-related problems, not about the relatively harmless nicotine.
Tomato, potatoes, eggplant, all those have nicotine. Is it fair to classify those as "tobacco products"? NRT's have ALWAYS nicotine in them. (We, at least, can choose zero nic). There are people who have been using NRT's for years. Are they considered smokers?
Suppose you tell someone who was once a drunkard, whose health has suffered from alchool abuse, and who has been drinking NON-alchoolic beer for some years already: "You promised you would quit drinking, but you are still drinking THAT!!".
Well, "that" has no alchool in it. So, that person can honestly tell you that "I've not drank a single drop of alchool in the last few years". Even if this drink still resembles beer, and still has many other things we can find in regular beer.
An NRT "addict" is not considered a smoker, and maybe he is even congratulated because he has managed to quit smoking. Well, so have we. IMO, telling a vaper that he's still a smoker is both unaccurate and unfair.
This.
If you see someone... well... not firing with all cylinders... you may ask him, "Have you been drinking?"
Even if by definition "drinking water" applies, that is certainly not what you meant to ask...!
In the same sense, classifying a vaper as a smoker, just because by definition, "vapour applies as smoke", is not correct in context.
The term "smoker" is used, a lot of times, on a negative light, as in someone who inhales "deadly tobacco smoke", with all the well-known health-related problems.
We, thank goodness, have got rid of smoke...
Therefore, "smoker" should not apply. Just my 2 cents.
I kind of feel the same as turbo. I'm not saying the rest of you are wrong, or that you shouldn't be happy or proud that you're no longer smoking cigarettes. With me, I've been a serial smoker, on for 8-10 years and then off for 8-10 years. I've quit cold turkey twice before and this third go-around I've switched to vaping. Now that I'm vaping, I don't feel quiet the same as I did when I quit altogether. When I quit cold turkey I felt like I was free of the addiction and now I feel like I'm much better off, but still an addict. I also weaken once in a while and have a stinky. When I quit altogether I had no desire for cigarettes. And I do know that many switch to vaping and then never want a cigarette again. Maybe I'll get to that point someday.
The paper towel test (picture in post #28) sold me on the safety of ecigs. The brown spot is probably what our lungs looked like when we smoked all day every day. I much prefer the clear wet spot. I haven't had a lung X-ray in a couple of decades, but I'll bet that there's improvement over the last one I got while smoking two PAD.
This.
If you see someone... well... not firing with all cylinders... you may ask him, "Have you been drinking?"
Even if by definition "drinking water" applies, that is certainly not what you meant to ask...!
In the same sense, classifying a vaper as a smoker, just because by definition, "vapour applies as smoke", is not correct in context.
The term "smoker" is used, a lot of times, on a negative light, as in someone who inhales "deadly tobacco smoke", with all the well-known health-related problems.
We, thank goodness, have got rid of smoke...
Therefore, "smoker" should not apply. Just my 2 cents.
It gripes me to no end that "smoker" has been replaced by "nicotine user" for health insurance classifications. I'm purposely heading toward 4mg nic juices to save that $200 a month on health insurance. I'm down from 24mg to 11mg right now and have been to 8mg with no issues. I think I can do 4mg and be just fine. Vaping for me is more about something to do with my hands than satisfying a nic addiction.
The cotinine test parameters are sensitive enough to detect "second hand smoke" and that's why they allow small hits in nic detection. People on this forum have titrated down to 4mg and passed the cotinine test before. We'll see.
IMO, a little nic is good for the brain when you get older.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/027858469290069Q
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Long-term effects of inhaled nicotine. [Life Sci. 1996] - PubMed - NCBI
Here you go.
And this might interest you.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/195347257/Nicotine-and-Health
And personally i can go a whole day without vaping and i'm not having any issues. Its proven that nicotine isnt more addicting that caffeine in coffee.
Noticed above was abit flawed on how low the deadly dose is. So here's other facts about that.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00204-013-1127-0/fulltext.html
http://www.ecita.org.uk/blog/?p=1179
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I had the same thing happen with my best friend who just enlisted in the army. Our last interactions were full of him belittling my accomplishment. No matter what I said, he was convinced and wouldn't budge that I was smoking despite being at 1mg/mL in my juice as well. ...... me right off. I eventually conceded just for the sake of not seeing him again for five years, but it makes me very sad that even my best friend wouldn't listen to me and diminished my accomplishment.
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Congratulations on your time as an ex smoker. Earlier this week I had the unfortunate event of seeing many people I haven't seen in many many years. I told them all I had quit smoking and started vaping. All that even bothered to comment said are you going to quit that too. Those that didn't just kind of stared at me. What bothers me is if I had said I started chewing nic gum or something else it would have been "good for you" instead. Do I care what these people think? Well I didn't when I smoked. Did I quit smoking because they wanted me to? Didn't even consider it. Will I stop vaping because they don't understand? Hahahahaha.
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Dude I know you want to explain the difference between smoking and vaping BUT sometimes arguing about it doesn't help it at all, when people like ur sister dismiss the idea that vaping is still smoking I think you just have to turn ur back and tell her to LOOK IT UP..
I was at a casino last weekend and this lady was telling me about her frustrations about vaping,she said she gave up vaping because it doesn't giver her all the satisfaction of a real cigarette, instead I just said OK,and left the bar..
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