Vaping nicotine as a never-smoker, why not?
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Just have to say that its pretty obvious were addressing the lunatic fringe (and/or ANTZ trolls) when WharfRat1976 and I actually agree on something. Especially as diametrically opposed as we are on a myriad of other issues.
Right, wet heads. Boiled as an owl but you can save your straight pepper diet[emoji13]
I'd love to comment but I can't understand what you just said. Who made a car battery analogy? Slow down a bit. Maybe take some l-theanine.
"Denial is not a river in Egypt?" That's deep. You come up with that? Really clever.
Anyway, what part of me saying I don't travel with vape gear don't you understand? When I take my next trip to California, for over a week, I will be vape/nic free. Just like I always do. Even now I can go without vaping if I wanted to, but I don't want to. Why is that so hard to believe? Oh, maybe because that's not how it is for YOU?! But know that I am not lying or in denial because I have my own proof that I can stop. But as I said, I don't want to.
And if I asked you if you are an alcoholic and you said no, does that mean you really are because the first sign of being an addict is denial? That is beyond silly. Just this year I began noticing that coffee no longer had a positive effect on me and I just grew tired of it. I was drinking over 40 oz a day (and had been for several years now). So, I stopped drinking it. And before you go telling me about myself, remember that you don't know me in spite of you feeling like you understand how everyone in the world reacts to nicotine or anything else.
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Jebus. I believe that nicotine and caffeine are fairly equivalent alkaloids. I also believe that the delivery method can be the most harmful aspect of their use. This is my opinion as a chemist and a partaker of both.
I come right out and say "I'm an addict/alcoholic." That would be the very opposite of denial, so does that mean... I'm NOT an addict/alcoholic? ROFL!!
I suspect I'm still quite physically addicted to the nicotine cocktail, since I still use WTA, however I've been steadily reducing the percentage of it since the first of the year; now at 2.75% (from when I started at 10%), and I really haven't had what I would call "difficulty" with that reduction -- sometimes, about a week after a drop, I'd have a feeling of not being able to vape enough, but it generally eased by the next day. Recently when I went from 4% to 3%, I started noticing myself thinking about smoking a lot more often, so I backed up to 3.5% for a couple weeks, then dropped to 3% without further problems. But when i went down from 3%, I only went to 2.75%, so as to avoid anymore thoughts of smoking. When the 25-ish ml I still have of it is gone, I'll make a 40ml of 2.5%. Once the WTA is gone, I've given some thought to reducing my 9mg nic down to about 5mg for the winter months, to see if it helps my uncomfortably cold hands and feet during the cold months.
As for BP... back when I really skinny (110 lbs, at 5'7") I had to smoke 3 or 4 cigarettes every morning before I even HAD much of a blood pressure, along with several cups of coffee or tea. It's not much of a problem anymore, since I'm now 54 and weigh about 145; it's generally very close to the ideal 120/80. And yeah, I really do need to drop about 10 lbs, but it's harder now than it used to be.
If keeping nicotine in my vape for the rest of my life is the price of staying smoke-free, I'll pay it GLADLY. Because vaping nicotine promises me a somewhat longer 'rest of my life' than if i went back to smoking, and really, those are my only options, vaping or smoking. I hadn't lived even 14 yrs before I started smoking, so I really don't even remember what it was like to not smoke -- this is the first time I've done it since 1975.
Andria
OK, when you have nothing left to support your argument and are reduced to hurling insults, it's time to exit the discussion. Have a good evening.
I come right out and say "I'm an addict/alcoholic." That would be the very opposite of denial, so does that mean... I'm NOT an addict/alcoholic? ROFL!!
I suspect I'm still quite physically addicted to the nicotine cocktail, since I still use WTA, however I've been steadily reducing the percentage of it since the first of the year; now at 2.75% (from when I started at 10%), and I really haven't had what I would call "difficulty" with that reduction -- sometimes, about a week after a drop, I'd have a feeling of not being able to vape enough, but it generally eased by the next day. Recently when I went from 4% to 3%, I started noticing myself thinking about smoking a lot more often, so I backed up to 3.5% for a couple weeks, then dropped to 3% without further problems. But when i went down from 3%, I only went to 2.75%, so as to avoid anymore thoughts of smoking. When the 25-ish ml I still have of it is gone, I'll make a 40ml of 2.5%. Once the WTA is gone, I've given some thought to reducing my 9mg nic down to about 5mg for the winter months, to see if it helps my uncomfortably cold hands and feet during the cold months.
As for BP... back when I really skinny (110 lbs, at 5'7") I had to smoke 3 or 4 cigarettes every morning before I even HAD much of a blood pressure, along with several cups of coffee or tea. It's not much of a problem anymore, since I'm now 54 and weigh about 145; it's generally very close to the ideal 120/80. And yeah, I really do need to drop about 10 lbs, but it's harder now than it used to be.
If keeping nicotine in my vape for the rest of my life is the price of staying smoke-free, I'll pay it GLADLY. Because vaping nicotine promises me a somewhat longer 'rest of my life' than if i went back to smoking, and really, those are my only options, vaping or smoking. I hadn't lived even 14 yrs before I started smoking, so I really don't even remember what it was like to not smoke -- this is the first time I've done it since 1975.
Andria
Awesome post, @AndriaD
It just goes to show that we all have different relationships with this stuff--meaning, it's not black/white or this/that. It's also interesting that you bring up WTA which tells me (and I used to love it too), nicotine is only one part, albeit a large part, of the equation of the alkaloid-cocktail---and we both know that cherry on top is sweet. Good luck.
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What is this ? Saturday Night Snipe ?
Be nice
Be nice
Found this post of mine from on January, 2013 after being on this forum for a smidgen (barely a week) over a year. Natural Tobaccos | Page 219 | E-Cigarette Forum Wow. It's cool to see that after all this time.
That was when I first realized this was not a major issue for me. So yeah, I like nicotine a lot but I can go without it.
That was when I first realized this was not a major issue for me. So yeah, I like nicotine a lot but I can go without it.
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Awesome post, @AndriaD
It just goes to show that we all have different relationships with this stuff--meaning, it's not black/white or this/that. It's also interesting that you bring up WTA which tells me (and I used to love it too), nicotine is only one part, albeit a large part, of the equation of the alkaloid-cocktail---and we both know that cherry on top is sweet. Good luck.
I can't say I've ever really "felt" anything from WTA... except a total LACK of horrible gut-level cravings, the kind that make you cry and wallow melodramatically on the floor -- I count the absence of that feeling a REAL plus! Even the thoughts I found myself having, when I tried to drop from 4% to 3%, were nothing like those godawful cravings, but they served as signposts that I might be entering dangerous territory, and should probably take it a bit more slowly; dropping a percentage point a month worked great for quite a while, but from 4% to 3% is a 25% reduction, pretty dramatic. So the rest of the way, I'll be easing it out -- and I already have a backup 15ml of 24mg WTA in the freezer, just in case those cravings ever surprise me with a comeback -- I'd so much rather vape some WTA than ever smoke again. That relapse last summer, and the difficulty I had in recovering from it to get back to smoke-free, really scared me; I LIKE being a non-smoker!!!
Andria
I can't say I've ever really "felt" anything from WTA... except a total LACK of horrible gut-level cravings, the kind that make you cry and wallow melodramatically on the floor -- I count the absence of that feeling a REAL plus! Even the thoughts I found myself having, when I tried to drop from 4% to 3%, were nothing like those godawful cravings, but they served as signposts that I might be entering dangerous territory, and should probably take it a bit more slowly; dropping a percentage point a month worked great for quite a while, but from 4% to 3% is a 25% reduction, pretty dramatic. So the rest of the way, I'll be easing it out -- and I already have a backup 15ml of 24mg WTA in the freezer, just in case those cravings ever surprise me with a comeback -- I'd so much rather vape some WTA than ever smoke again. That relapse last summer, and the difficulty I had in recovering from it to get back to smoke-free, really scared me; I LIKE being a non-smoker!!!
Andria
And that is the sweet cherry on top!
Are you saying their underlying issue had something to do with BP? If you are, I really would like to understand. The results showed what it showed when their vitals were checked.
I think you got my post twisted, which is fine. Like I said to Maz, unless we are all in the exact same form, age, sex, health-history and whatnot, we can't say for certain how things will affect us. Sure, it "may" do this and it "can" do that, but that doesn't mean it "will". And even if nicotine "will" in fact raise our BP after intake, there are still a host of other issues that can compound that or even make it a non-issue. For me, as much as I vape, my BP is currently a non-issue.
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What was that about super dumb?
Ah.... another one of these threads hey
Ah.... another one of these threads hey
Make sure that popcorn is diacetyl-free.
Me, I prefer my never-smoking emoticons to take up a more healthy habit.
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