Vaping on or going back to smoking? Still undecided.
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Cuban cigars? Honduran is where its at. Cubans are over rated IMHO....sorry, couldent resist. But making the switch not only will make your wife happy, but your wallet too. I am sure that you cna find somthing that will fufil your needs, the folk here are really helpful, and most have a banner where you can see how much you will save over time. 
Here's my experience, in a nutshell:
I dragged my feet because something I loved about smoking was letting the cigarette dangle from my lips while I worked as a carpenter. I realized quickly with a blu that that's not gonna happen. My motivation was that I didn't want to smell bad for girls I might like to date. What happened with me is that I bought a small device (an Ecto 650), a handful of tanks, and just started going through flavors to find some that I liked. For the first couple of weeks, I felt like it wasn't cutting it and I'd light up a smoke. EVERY TIME I would get through a couple of puffs before I got rid of it because the flavor was just utter ...... Instead of giving advice, I try to just share my experience about things, so take from it what you like!
I dragged my feet because something I loved about smoking was letting the cigarette dangle from my lips while I worked as a carpenter. I realized quickly with a blu that that's not gonna happen. My motivation was that I didn't want to smell bad for girls I might like to date. What happened with me is that I bought a small device (an Ecto 650), a handful of tanks, and just started going through flavors to find some that I liked. For the first couple of weeks, I felt like it wasn't cutting it and I'd light up a smoke. EVERY TIME I would get through a couple of puffs before I got rid of it because the flavor was just utter ...... Instead of giving advice, I try to just share my experience about things, so take from it what you like!
I would second that suggestion about WTA; when I had a smoking-relapse because of my appendectomy last summer, smoked for a month, then finally got smoke-free again, then 10 days in, started being ASSAULTED with cravings... the WTA got rid of the cravings completely. For 5 months, I mixed it into my ejuice as 10% of the juice; first of the year I started a slow reduction, 9% in January, now at 8%, and so far, so good; no recurrence of cravings, no massive chain-vaping, so next month I'll take it down again, to 7%. I use the 25mg WTA, so it doesn't have to be much of the ejuice in order to be very effective. There are 3 places where WTA is available:
aromaejuice.com -- most costly, but these guys basically invented it
wholecig.com -- medium on price; unflavored is about it, but theirs is just as clear and taste-free as aroma's.
mothersmilkwta.com -- least costly, but theirs is dark and very smoky-smelling -- great in tobacco vapes, not so great in sweet vapes.
And maybe see if there's some way you could try out some kind of non-cigalike vaping rig; the difference in the quality of the vape is just immense -- even with the lowly little kanger T3S tanks, my first try of one of those after a month of cigalikes, my response was "THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT!" Then when I finally took the plunge and got a kayfun -- same exact reaction, it was so much better.
Andria
Cigalikes may be swell for the light smoker. For 2 PAD plus smokers they just don't pack enough oomph.
Especially when you are used to the heavy dense smoke of the occasional cigar they simply don't deliver in comparison to that.
And yes, the bigger models need some fiddling but with the right gear that can be reduced considerably. The 'converts' I supplied are still doin fine with dual coil clearos on 900mAH batteries. Spare coil heads are pretty hassle-free when compared to wrapping your own....
1000 $ so far... Hm... Geneva. If that's the one in Switzerland, how much is a pack there?. About 10 bucks or so? 2 packs a day - the math is straightforward.
Enjoyed smoking? So did I. But with 300+ flavours to choose from, why mimick smoking?
Start vaping
But in the end, it boils down to your personal preferences. It's your lungs, your dough, your personal tastes.
And unlike nanny gubmints, far be it from me telling what to do with it
Especially when you are used to the heavy dense smoke of the occasional cigar they simply don't deliver in comparison to that.
And yes, the bigger models need some fiddling but with the right gear that can be reduced considerably. The 'converts' I supplied are still doin fine with dual coil clearos on 900mAH batteries. Spare coil heads are pretty hassle-free when compared to wrapping your own....
1000 $ so far... Hm... Geneva. If that's the one in Switzerland, how much is a pack there?. About 10 bucks or so? 2 packs a day - the math is straightforward.
Enjoyed smoking? So did I. But with 300+ flavours to choose from, why mimick smoking?
Start vaping
But in the end, it boils down to your personal preferences. It's your lungs, your dough, your personal tastes.
And unlike nanny gubmints, far be it from me telling what to do with it
Hi Zazoie,
Now that I found liquids that I like, it really all comes down to the device. I am not asking for something that will reproduce all the delicate nuances of the liquid's flavor. All I want is something automatic giving me the illusion I am smoking and that last several hours (battery and cartridge) so I can go through a day (or just an evening at least) of carefree vaping. The Zeus would be close to giving me this if only those batteries were delivering the autonomy they are supposed to deliver. Vapor4Life is sending me replacements so I will see then if I was just really unlucky with both initial batteries or if their products are just crap!
I understand that someone who truly wants to quit smoking will go beyond the apparently obsolete devices I bought and into more advanced gears to achieve that goal.
Hi e-pipeman,
No, I don't really want to stop smoking. I love it!
But I figured if switching to vaping can still give me the illusion of smoking and be pleasant and on top of that make my wife happier, let's give it a try. And that's what I am doing.
If it doesn't do it for me, I'll go back to cigarettes and buy my wife a diamond river which should keep her happy for a while
Cuban cigars? Honduran is where its at. Cubans are over rated IMHO....sorry, couldent resist. But making the switch not only will make your wife happy, but your wallet too. I am sure that you cna find somthing that will fufil your needs, the folk here are really helpful, and most have a banner where you can see how much you will save over time.
Hi Shalisk,
Well, she's still happy for now. As for my wallet, it remains to be seen. But that's not my main concern. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world so cost is all relative. The over $1000 I have spent in one month for my vaping transition would have been gone in two nights out here in Geneva!
davcav, welcome! I was like you and so many other folks here. I thought if I was going to make a careful, steady transition into vaping, it was going to be by way of a cig-a-like. There was a hand/mouth fixation there that I thought would be imperative to duplicate in order to satiate my cravings for the entire smoking experience.
Not true.
Those devices you're working with now require a lot more maintenance than my iStick and Kanger Aerotank V2. I literally fill and go with this thing.
No, it doesn't feel the same as a cigarette in your hand. But that becomes moot as soon as you let yourself experience devices like these. You forget why you needed to feel the cig in your fingers and the papery tip of a cigarette on your lips. It doesn't even sound good when I imagine it anymore.
Plus, with the istick, you can plug this baby up while you're at work at your desk and vape WHILE it's charging. But my battery last 2.5 to 3 days. Amazing.
Give yourself a chance to push away from what you think may be your comfort level. It's worth it.
Not true.
Those devices you're working with now require a lot more maintenance than my iStick and Kanger Aerotank V2. I literally fill and go with this thing.
No, it doesn't feel the same as a cigarette in your hand. But that becomes moot as soon as you let yourself experience devices like these. You forget why you needed to feel the cig in your fingers and the papery tip of a cigarette on your lips. It doesn't even sound good when I imagine it anymore.
Plus, with the istick, you can plug this baby up while you're at work at your desk and vape WHILE it's charging. But my battery last 2.5 to 3 days. Amazing.
Give yourself a chance to push away from what you think may be your comfort level. It's worth it.
Hi itscheddar,
Aaah the dangling cigarette. Love to do that too. By the way, over here everybody smokes so you wouldn't have to worry about smelling like cold smoke when dating.
I don't get why you're so concerned with the appearance of the device...unless you sit in front of a mirror all day 
I loved smoking, Smoked from my teens up into my sixties. My mother has emphysema...and her father died of lung cancer...so you can see I have a family history similar to yours.
I would've been happy to just keep smoking forever, but I wanted to have elective surgery, and the doctor said I'd have to stop before. Seriously considered whether I really wanted to have the work done.
My neighbor dropped in to show me the device he had quit with, let me try it, and helped me order a similar one. It took me a while to find my flavors (of course I wanted to duplicate my Kools), but it took me FOUR DAYS to switch over. (I was at around 30 cigs a day.)
Of course I still wanted to be smoking, but almost immediately I started to feel better. I kept at it because I was astonished that it was working!
I still use the thing I started with, the itastevv, but have replaced as they just lose charge-length. One usually lasts most of the day and I always have another ready to go.
So, in order to make this work, you have to actually WANT to make it work.
I loved smoking, Smoked from my teens up into my sixties. My mother has emphysema...and her father died of lung cancer...so you can see I have a family history similar to yours.
I would've been happy to just keep smoking forever, but I wanted to have elective surgery, and the doctor said I'd have to stop before. Seriously considered whether I really wanted to have the work done.
My neighbor dropped in to show me the device he had quit with, let me try it, and helped me order a similar one. It took me a while to find my flavors (of course I wanted to duplicate my Kools), but it took me FOUR DAYS to switch over. (I was at around 30 cigs a day.)
Of course I still wanted to be smoking, but almost immediately I started to feel better. I kept at it because I was astonished that it was working!
I still use the thing I started with, the itastevv, but have replaced as they just lose charge-length. One usually lasts most of the day and I always have another ready to go.
So, in order to make this work, you have to actually WANT to make it work.
Cigalikes may be swell for the light smoker. For 2 PAD plus smokers they just don't pack enough oomph.
Especially when you are used to the heavy dense smoke of the occasional cigar they simply don't deliver in comparison to that.
And yes, the bigger models need some fiddling but with the right gear that can be reduced considerably. The 'converts' I supplied are still doin fine with dual coil clearos on 900mAH batteries. Spare coil heads are pretty hassle-free when compared to wrapping your own....
1000 $ so far... Hm... Geneva. If that's the one in Switzerland, how much is a pack there?. About 10 bucks or so? 2 packs a day - the math is straightforward.
Enjoyed smoking? So did I. But with 300+ flavours to choose from, why mimick smoking?
Start vaping
But in the end, it boils down to your personal preferences. It's your lungs, your dough, your personal tastes.
And unlike nanny gubmints, far be it from me telling what to do with it
Hi Seamix,
Yes, that Geneva is Switzerland. Currently most brands are about $9 a pack (8.40 swissies) but I smoked L&M blue (light) which are cheaper, about $8 a pack. Between the 2 packs a day, plus some when partying and the few cigars, I'd say I spent a bit over $600 a month.
As for all the flavors of liquids out there, I'm sure lots of them are great but I don't feel like smoking something that taste like a cake or candy. I am not that much into sweets. I like my coffee short and black, don't eat desserts, etc. But in terms of liquid, I'm set. Found the stuff that works for me.
I think the market is making a big mistake assuming everyone wants to carry around a big honkin' vape thingie.
I was at the racetrack this weekend and there were about 35,000 people there, and this one couple stood out because they had stuff like that, just not my taste at all. Not for out and about and sporting events where it is *crowded*.
I LOVE pen style sized vapes.....about the size of a cigar. But there are so few, they are all moving to big stuff.!@!!!
You *might* be happy getting something in the 14500 battery sized range.....with changeable batts.....so when it runs out you can just carry 2 of those (they are size of a regular AA battery, but they are lithium). Do a search here on those.
The zeus does look like a very nice batt for what you like---size wise.
You might also consider disposable White Cloud "Flings". They are small cigar sized........believe it or not, my brother ONLY uses those, even though I offered him every piece of vape gear known to man.
There is a topic on tinier PVs here: 36 pages to cruise thru for you.
Maybe you will see something:http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...40761-little-itty-bitty-mods-under-100-a.html
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then of course there is the ever classy *eRoll* cig-a-likes.....very popular......but you have to fill up quite a lot of cartridges since they only hold 0.5ml to get thru the day, ut they sure are nice looking!!!:
Joyetech eRoll series
Joyetech eRoll series
oh, one more Davcav. Lifetime warranty, well built, feels perfectly weighted in hand, but bigger than a cig a like for sure, but takes 14500 changeable batteries.......a real dependable workhorse:
ProVape1 Ecig: The Highest-Quality vaporizer Online!
Provape-1
Measures - 3.8" L X .75" Dia.(without atomizer)
Weight - 78 grams without battery and atomizer
You will have it *forever*.
ProVape1 Ecig: The Highest-Quality vaporizer Online!
Provape-1
Measures - 3.8" L X .75" Dia.(without atomizer)
Weight - 78 grams without battery and atomizer
You will have it *forever*.
Don't take this the wrong way but I can tell you're stubborn about it, I was too. When I first started it was about 90% because my then-girlfriend wanted me to quit cigarettes and 10% because I wanted to too. As with anything, it didn't stick for me when I didn't fully want it for me only. After smoking about 15 cigarettes a day and vaping in my car and at home only I eventually decided I wanted to really try to quit cigarettes because I was done with the odors that came along with it and I could just tell physically I wasn't doing well - constantly coughing, congestion/stuffy nose at night (proved to be from cigarettes after I quit them and those symptoms disappeared), yellow finger nails, stained teeth, etc.. Once I got it in my mind that I would compromise my desire for a certain type of product and inhale that I'd had for 15 years in order to get my health in order it became pretty easy to stick to my vape and over time I opened up to the things that initially seemed ridiculous to me (mods, fruity-tasting e-liquids, etc). Just give it time, let it happen naturally for you. Even if you still smoke cigarettes, mix in your vapes from time to time and you might find yourself seeing the benefits. If it ends up not being for you, that's that, but just know it took me over a year to convert and I'm beyond thrilled with the physical and emotional benefits it has provided me.
I don't get why you're so concerned with the appearance of the device...unless you sit in front of a mirror all day
I loved smoking, Smoked from my teens up into my sixties. My mother has emphysema...and her father died of lung cancer...so you can see I have a family history similar to yours.
I would've been happy to just keep smoking forever, but I wanted to have elective surgery, and the doctor said I'd have to stop before. Seriously considered whether I really wanted to have the work done.
My neighbor dropped in to show me the device he had quit with, let me try it, and helped me order a similar one. It took me a while to find my flavors (of course I wanted to duplicate my Kools), but it took me FOUR DAYS to switch over. (I was at around 30 cigs a day.)
Of course I still wanted to be smoking, but almost immediately I started to feel better. I kept at it because I was astonished that it was working!
I still use the thing I started with, the itastevv, but have replaced as they just lose charge-length. One usually lasts most of the day and I always have another ready to go.
So, in order to make this work, you have to actually WANT to make it work.
Hi PennyLynn,
Ah ah ah ah sitting in front of the mirror all day! Loved it!
It's mostly a mental thing I guess. I love smoking. I am trying to vape to please my wife not because I want to quit smoking. If the experience is not pleasant for me, I will have absolutely no problem going back to cigarettes. I'll get her jewelry and she'll be fine.
Hi Tjcraig,
Glad all this worked out for you. Rest assured that I don't take the wrong way anything that can be said. With my colleagues, friends and wife, you should hear the kind of stuff we throw at each other's face all day!
And you are absolutely right: I am stubborn and I am not about to change. If I walk into a store looking for a blue sweatshirt and they only have them in red, I am not going to demand they make one in blue especially for me but I'm not going to settle for a red one either. I'll just walk out. No big deal. That's how I feel with vaping. I'm going in and if I can't find something that suits my preferences, I'll walk out. Again, no big deal.
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