Vaping snobs?
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The funny part is, and don't tell the ANTZ, I was vaping Cherry Bubble Gum and they were loving it. Kids DO like flavors.
I honestly think that those of us on ECF have a different attitude because of the online community here. We get a lot of support and tolerance of each other and I think we just kind of pass it along to the outside world.
I think that's very true; due to my illness, I've had to temporarily return to smoking; I haven't given up on vaping, and now I'm getting back to it more and more, I just had to get my catastrophic dehydration under control, but no one here has thrown any rocks at me about going back to smoking for a while. Everyone has been very supportive, even in my branching out to possibly using PEG400 as the main carrier rather than PG/VG -- and I've come to find that I'm far from the only one who's had a lot of serious problems with those 2 main carriers. The FDA and media are all hysterial about nicotine, and that's never hurt me at all, except mildly at first when I didn't realize that 18mg and 12mg are just too strong for me -- but those carrier chemicals have incited pure mayhem in my already-dehydrated body.
I confess, when I first quit smoking, I was a little bit of a zealot; it just smelled so bad to me when I wasn't partaking any longer, I made some comments about how bad it stinks, rather too loudly, out in parking lots. Having had this issue with the dehydration and needing to go back to smoking temporarily, in future I will be sure to remain less judgmental of those who still smoke, went back to smoking, or just never have heard the good news about vaping. It's a terrible, powerful addiction; it's no wonder we need something that *feels* so much like smoking in order to get over smoking!
Andria
Thats so messed up who are they to pass judgement on someone whos bettering there life and health when they were and are in the same boat pretty much, its not like they didnt smoke ciggerrettes all day everyday at a point in there life, it really is sickening. If she said that to me I would have told her right exactly how it is and who the ---- is she to pass judgement on me for still smokin on occasion. Smh
IMO no one is a snob because they have, or don't have something ... some people are just snobs.
This.
A rampant anti-and-never-smoker has at least the excuse of not knowing about the struggle to quit smoking.
I was lucky to stop smoking with an e-cig in barely two days. But it was the ONLY method that worked for me.
So, I have struggled (an failed, time and time again) prior to the e-cigarette arrival.
Those self-righteous EX-smokers are the worst of anti-smoking people.
They have walked that path, but on their newly-found high morality, they seem to have forgotten what it WAS to walk the path.
I would have made her feel tiny by saying something like "well, thanks for your support as I continue my journey towards getting off cigs all together. Glad it worked so well for you that you now feel you have the right to belittle those of us that are still struggling".
I've had folk tell me that my 'nic habit' is just as bad as smoking and I've only replaced one addiction with another
While I Categorically and Vehemently Disagree with the First Part of what these People are Saying. I don't see the Second part as Being Completely Incorrect for Some/Many People.
I ran into these people who told me I can't do cloud chasing:
1. Tobacco users
2. Dual use vapers
3. Cig_a_like users
4. Ego/Evod users
5. APV users
Bunch of snobs.
1. Tobacco users
2. Dual use vapers
3. Cig_a_like users
4. Ego/Evod users
5. APV users
Bunch of snobs.
I've had folk tell me that my 'nic habit' is just as bad as smoking and I've only replaced one addiction with another
I get that a lot too, but I correct their ignorance by informing them nicotine does not cause cancer, which is what I'm trying to avoid. Then I ask them about their caffeine habit, and ask them when they're going to stop "THAT". This is particularly effective with AA'ers, who've stopped drinking alcohol but now routinely chug down a half-pot of coffee at every AA meeting.
Andria
True.. but replacing an addiction that has a high potential for killing you, with an addiction without that high potential, or really much of any potential at all, for death or serious health problems... seems fairly no-brainer to me. Like replacing hard drugs with bubblegum. Bubblegum *may* rot your teeth, but most likely won't cause either an OD or death.
Andria
As a joke I get called a vape snob. I was vaping disposables until I was set right then went over the bend. A few months later I was into RBAs and had all this gear. My vape mentor thought it was a hoot and a holler. Chasing the best flavor for me was the cause and a little help went a long way.
This will always be about harm reduction for me, find it hard to judge what is working for others or get all snobby about gear. If you are happy so am I and the hope we can beat not going back to smoking is the core of all of this.
This will always be about harm reduction for me, find it hard to judge what is working for others or get all snobby about gear. If you are happy so am I and the hope we can beat not going back to smoking is the core of all of this.
True.. but replacing an addiction that has a high potential for killing you, with an addiction without that high potential, or really much of any potential at all, for death or serious health problems... seems fairly no-brainer to me. Like replacing hard drugs with bubblegum. Bubblegum *may* rot your teeth, but most likely won't cause either an OD or death.
Andria
Absolutely.
I made a Post one where I said that I had gotten One Very Nasty, Ugly Monkey Off my Back by Quitting Analogs. But Now I had a New Monkey. And it had the Potential to be, a Similar Monkey if I let it.
Because when I Switched, I needed to Chain Vape High mg e-Liquids to get Over the Hump. But Found that once I quit Analogs, I was starting to become Very Dependent on e-Cigarettes. And started to Think about Vaping Everywhere I went.
And that Vape-Everywhere Feeling was Not What I wanted to Feel All Day Long. Every Day.
Granted, the New Monkey was kinda Cute. But it was a Money All The Same.
I was very much the same way, at first, just chain-vaping pretty much constantly, and it seemed really necessary, to get over/prevent the cigarette cravings, but I'm thinking now that that constant vaping was one factor in the dehydration problems I've suffered. Now that I'm doing the gradual replacement of vaping for smoking again, but this time with much better equipment and much greater understanding of how my body responds to all the chemicals involved in vaping, I think I may be better able to restrain myself from the constant chain-vaping, using higher mg nicotine, and putting the PV on the other side of the room so I actually have to get up and go to it, if I want to vape -- like I have to go outside if I want to smoke. Vaping is harm reduction, but causing myself massive dehydration is certainly not harm reduction at all, so I'll have to get back into it with a bit more restraint, this time.
Andria
I think this can be a Huge Factor.
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