Vaping will go mainstream in 5 years according to Forum Statistics.

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potholerepairman

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Unless you have friends in the know, I still believe that it's necessary to go to the forum to find the latest and greatest and best. Although they just opened two vape Shops around 40 minutes from me.

Maybe that'll change when every city has a vape shop and you can see, feel, try the equipment and juices!

its 100% needed to come here to me but still think people will only do what they have to to get by minimally(I live in a don't care to succeed to the fullest area). the advice and guidence here is what steers my vape train from day one till now.
 

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Right now we are somewhat under the radar, what happens if there are millions of us?

Regrettably most likely the same thing that happens with traffic enforcement. The taxing power will economically profile us all and make us pay an unjust fee to do what we do.Ever wonder why speed traps or red light cameras are not in the seediest parts of town? my guess in they do not payoff as well as other areas.
 

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Assuming that this is a trend that will continue than we are talking about Vaping going mainstream within 5 years.[/FONT]

I hate to be the Big Black Fly in the Frosting.

But do you think that there might be any Outside Influences that could Skew your Prediction?

I don’t know, maybe something like Outlawing the Sale of Nicotine e-Liquids Online or a 500 or 600% Increase in Price due to Imposed Taxes?
 

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I hate to be the Big Black Fly in the Frosting.

But do you think that there might be any Outside Influences that could Skew your Prediction?

I don’t know, maybe something like Outlawing the Sale of Nicotine e-Liquids Online or a 500 or 600% Increase in Price due to Imposed Taxes?

It's illegal for people here to sell in online within our country. But we can buy online from overseas vendors and import it for personal use. If the same happens to you... we'll have a lot more Dekang in our future. :)
 

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If I see a barrier in 2012 it's the shoddy, inconsistent, quality that is still coming from the majority of Chinese Equipment Manufacturers.
I'm not out to burst any bubbles, but the only real barrier to be concerned about is what the FDA is going to do.

For that reason, every vaper would be wise to follow what is going on...
Legislation News

And for a more specific focus on the decisions that are soon to be made...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-apply-e-cigs-if-deemed-under-chapter-ix.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uld-impact-e-cigs-if-deeming-regs-issued.html
 

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The Blu cigarette TV commercials will bring in many more who never knew about E-Cigarettes.

One thing I see happening is the Gov (US) taking a much bigger interest in it once it reaches some critical mass and they see a new Taxable base of uses out there for them to hit up for money. I doubt the politicians will do any outright banning but I do think they will do their best to extract whatever money they can from the sales.
 

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I believe that it will.
Some of the barriers to the growth of Vaping are falling by the wayside.

When I began in 2009 the sophistication of the equipment was nothing like today. Even the premium brands of e-cigs personal Vaporizers were problematic. The selection of e-liquid was almost all Chinese and tasted perfumy and artificial. The Atomizer/cartomizer solutions were crude.

In 2012
In terms of equipment, there is still room for improvement but a user can buy a medium quality problem free unit and get involved in vaping for under $100.00. Or buy the best for under $250.00.

I spent a fortune in my first 1 1/2 years until the Provari came out. Even the very expensive vaping units were a PIA (Pain in the a.r.s.e). The Provari was the first Variable Vape unit that was rock solid. Yes it is/was expensive but it offered value. Pay a premium price one time and purchase a trouble free unit. I consider the Provari a milestone in vaping. It was the first (arguably) mass produced glitch free device
In 2012 there are some economical solutions like the Ego Twist offering a great value, without the flexibility and bells and whistles of the Provari. There is still a lot of junk out their but a saavy buyer can find quality units. That was very difficult in 2009

Back in 2009 you could spend over $100.00 and end up with a crap unit anyway. They hadn't ironed out the kinks. I really hate to think of all the potential vapers who tried it and quit because of the crap they were selling back in 2009.


I stuck with it because, not only did I enjoy it, but I decided that it would save my life. Cigarettes will definitely kill you. Vaping just made sense as a less harmful alternative.

I'd like to illustrate the problem with the equipment back than.
I tried the Prodigy 1 and Prodigy 2 from Puresmoker $100.00+ Units, neither lasted more than 3-6 months and borchu problems. They said they'd fix the problems of the v1 in the v2. NOT!!

I finally ponied up for a Golden Greek $175.00 this was a quality mechanical unit. I can still remember searching the floor for the spring on the button which kept popping out. Can you imagine a $175.00 unit with the button always popping off, disgraceful. It lasted around 9 months.

Than the nhaler around 1 month and $70.00 along with 2-3 units whose name I can't even remember but didn't last a month. Are you getting the picture.?

I ponied up for a Provari and it worked flawlessly for 15 months, than the new lr atomizers destroyed the circuit board. It had a 2.5 amp limit and that wasn't enough for the new generation. Still 15 months is very reasonable. Everyone lauds the quality of the Provari but really how long has it been out. Well a veteran trying it at the beginning saw a 15 month Lifespan.

The advent of Clearomizers like the Vivi Nova and Vision Line have added a new dimension to Vaping. You no longer have to constantly keep your atomizer or cartridge wet. To those who don't like doing alot of work they are perfect. Fill once or twice a day and vape to your hearts content. This convenience is contributing to a Superior Vaping Experience and will increase the overall satisfaction for Newbies trying vaping.

Back in 2009 atomizers with Fiberfill ruled. They were hard to fill. Didn't last long and in my opinion don't offer the clean taste of the Clearomizers. We used to have tricks like the straw method. You cut down a coffee stirrer and put it in the side of the cartomizer to allow air to flow to the bottom. I mean really getting the equipment to work right was a real chore.

In 2012 there are many many companies to go to with creating great tasting e-liquids. In 2009 your only choice was re-branded D-Kang. Alright, I'm exagerating a little but not much. E- Liquid quality and variety has increased tremendously since 2009.


If I see a barrier in 2012 it's the shoddy, inconsistent, quality that is still coming from the majority of Chinese Equipment Manufacturers.

Recently while my Provari was in the shop, I bought a Mini Lava Tube that just about burst into flames, and than the replacement decided not to recognize any carts.
On the flip side I found and American BoxMod called the Smokbox Varicool for $56.00 and while it doesn't have the bells and whistles of the Provari it vapes like a champ.

The reviews of Battery doors that jam on the Smoketech Gripper and other hit and miss quality flaws are legion.

So in 2012 the following are available if you research carefully and listen to the Forum Advise.

1. Quality Personal Vaporizers. 2. Quality Cartomizers/Clearomizers 3. Tasty inexpensive Liquids.

This improvement of the vaping technology is going to pave the way for increased customer satisfaction and the growth of vaping.

Not even two months ago, I jumped back in, wow where was all this tech when I was last trying vaping?

Fascinating post, thank you for it:) you don't know me but when I read this I thought, "he just described MY experience to a T! No its not a perfect industry yet by any means, second time around I've arguably spent even more money than the first go around, but with one major difference. This time was easy to switch completely from analogs. Last time was (09) was monumentally frustrating, this time not only was I able to make it work, I have multiple working options. The advances made are definately making it easier and easier for people to go this route if they choose. Thanks for letting me chime in:)
 
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When I think of "regulations" I've come to the conclusion that the only thing they can regulate is the nicotine in the juice. If you learn how to diy your ejuice you only would pay the tax on nicotine juice. How would they enforce a tax on batteries, food flavoring, etc? How would they know what you're going to use the batteries for? At point of sale, would you be asked if you're using the batteries for a flashlight you only pay the sales tax, but if you're going to use it on a pv, then you have to pay a "sin" tax on top of the sales tax. The same thing goes for the food flavoring. Who in their right mind think that would work? However, I wouldn't put it past the regulators to try it especially since the government is not reeling in the revenue from the cigarette sales taxes.

It's going to be interesting to say the least...
 

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Not even two months ago, I jumped back in, wow where was all this tech when I was last trying vaping?

Fascinating post, thank you for it:) you don't know me but when I read this I thought, "he just described MY experience to a T! No its not a perfect industry yet by any means, second time around I've arguably spent even more money than the first go around, but with one major difference. This time was easy to switch completely from analogs. Last time was (09) was monumentally frustrating, this time not only was I able to make it work, I have multiple working options. The advances made are definately making it easier and easier for people to go this route if they choose. Thanks for letting me chime in:)

It's so great that you tried it again and succeeded. You are the first that I've run across and I hope not the last. It was rough back in 2009 for sure.
 
I see vaping going mainstream as possibly a bad thing - where the money is is where the big corporations go. They do not care about quality or your health, only about profit. The size of this industry today, at least in the case of the US based companies that are serving it, helps it to feel like a community. Nobody is out the screw anybody, and it's not just about profit. It's about something that's healthier, more fun, and tastes better than nasty old tobacco combustion. As soon as the big tobacco companies jump on board (like they have with Blu), I can see things going downhill.
 

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It's so great that you tried it again and succeeded. You are the first that I've run across and I hope not the last. It was rough back in 2009 for sure.

I lost a few thoughts in the editing there, I somehow made my comments look like a continuation of yours, so I took them out. In 09, (and this is how I remember it,so any technical errors are mine or a product of my perception of them), the Prodigy was held in regard not dissimilar to what the Provari is today. I think that in and of itself says a lot about the progression of the industry as a whole since then. I wanted it to work then, I bought and still own a P2,and a P3. But I could never get anything remotely resembling consistent vaping out of those using attomizers. Unlike you I just put it all aside and went on about my life. I'm glad I got pulled back in, reconnected with this forum, and finally made it work. In the end it's working out really well, and instead of frustration, I'm really having a lot of fun with vaping. Of all things a Blu reminded me of my previous effort and re-interested me. Now I'm completely happy with the Provari and several different things that work well for me with it. Maybe I got more patient over the last few years, I don't know lol, but I am VERY glad to be vaping full time, and I am very glad to have re-connected with the fantastic community and resource that is ECF! It certainly is vastly easier to get up and running effectively than it was, if that trend continues it may make your future predictions look conservative in retrospect and wouldn't that be a wonderful thing?
 

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Like Wow, 779 post between the day you registered in June and Today in August. That is a Shmeg load of posting.

Personally I Don't know if I could be THAT constructive in 779 post?

You mean me? I am on my phone and can't see my count. I've had a few constructive posts... I like to think. And lots of fun ones.
 

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When vaping does become mainstream (as I believe it will) do you think it will make the experiance better or worse? will it become over regulated thus limiting the selection of juice etc? That is my main concern, how it is now is great, the selection of everything is good and there is new and better coming at us all the time, I just hope that the powers that be don't take all the enjoyment out of it

I believe vaping going mainstream will be good for vaping. It will mean there's more money to be made by manufacturers & vendors. That will mean better vaping technology. Look at home computing - as it has become more popular, personal computing devices (and I include smart phones in that category) have improved immensely. More units selling usually = lower prices, too.

Example: I've read several comments here about the superiority of cotton wicks in tanks vs. the wicks that come with tanks such as the Vivi Nova (which I currently use & really like in terms of performance). There are a lot of videos about do-it-yourself cotton wicking. As vaping becomes more popular, some maker is bound to realize there's $$$ to be made selling great tanks with cotton wicks. So I won't have to do it myself. And you know what? I'd rather not do it myself.

I'd love to see vaping go mainstream. It means better products (product performance & better, more standardized & reliable manufacturing processes with fewer defective products) and more of them, probably at a lower price.
 
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