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thanks i heard that the provari will not handle dcc lr is that true ?
It used to be but now the V2 is out and it handles them fine. The Buzz Pro is a good device and will handle anything that you put on it...but thats not necessarily a good thing for someone new to vv. The Provari will protect the itself (and your carto/atty) by giving an error code if you try to try to vape something at too high a voltage... then you will know to lower the voltage. The Buzz Pro doesn't care, it'll do anything you tell it to do, whether it's a good thing or not. The Provari has a led readout that will tell you the exact voltage, the Buzz pro has a wheel with (I think) voltage marked on it. The Provari will tell you the resistance of your atty or carto (don't try this if they're dry or they will fry) The Buzz Pro won't. NOTE I do not own a Buzz Pro and I have the upmost respect for the device. I just think the person using it needs to know what they are doing and what they are asking it to do. You can't go wrong with either device.
thanks so much im lookin towards the pro just saw the mini also is that the same just using smaller batts? do you think get all day vap out of it trying not to get something to big so can put in pocket easy
The mini is the exact same thing.. just smaller and uses smaller/different batts. The full size with the extension cap uses 18650 batts, the full size without the extension cap uses 18490 batts.. The mini with the extension cap uses 18490 batts and is the same (I think) size as the full size without the extension cap. The mini without the extension cap uses 18350 batts and is the smallest size. The larger the batt, the longer the vape time. I'd love to get a mini but I don't know if I want to sacrifice batt life for a smaller size. (But when the black mini comes out.. I can't make any promises LOL)
I use the full size with extension caps and 18650 batts and am very happy with the vape time I get.
I use the full size with extension caps and 18650 batts and am very happy with the vape time I get.
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thanks what is about the size of the pro without ex cap with a tank? and about how long of vap time u get? and is there a really big differance with the vv mod compaired to a reg batt? i just want to buy one more n not change for a while spent way to much money so far lol
The full size provari without the added extension cap is approx 5 and 1/2 inches tall with a dct tank and a drip tip. You don't have to get the extension cap and use the 18650 batts to get good batt life. with the regular size Provari and the 18490 batts you should be able to vape all day. I was using LR (1.7) cartos (because I had quite a few of them and liked the size compared to the shorter boges) but then the xxl 3 ohm boges came out and I can tell a big difference in batt life. I bought the extension cap because I already had 18650 batts (left over from my Lava tube phase) and didn't want to have to purchase more batts.
wow.. what a difference in size taking the extension cap off and putting the regular cap on! But anyway.. I just don't want to have so many different sizes of batteries laying around. I use a couple vv box mods along with the Provari so all I have are 14500s (for the boxes) and 18650s for the provari. If I hadn't already had 18650 batts, I wouldn't have bought the extension and just bought the 18490 batts.
The big difference between a vv mod and a regular fixed 3.7 device is regulated voltage. Whatever I set my provari at.. it will stay at the exact voltage until the batts need recharging.. I used to use cheap 3.7 box mods and the voltage would continually drop as the batts discharged. You said you only want to buy ONE more... IMO the provari is all you'll ever need. (until something better comes along LOL)
wow.. what a difference in size taking the extension cap off and putting the regular cap on! But anyway.. I just don't want to have so many different sizes of batteries laying around. I use a couple vv box mods along with the Provari so all I have are 14500s (for the boxes) and 18650s for the provari. If I hadn't already had 18650 batts, I wouldn't have bought the extension and just bought the 18490 batts.
The big difference between a vv mod and a regular fixed 3.7 device is regulated voltage. Whatever I set my provari at.. it will stay at the exact voltage until the batts need recharging.. I used to use cheap 3.7 box mods and the voltage would continually drop as the batts discharged. You said you only want to buy ONE more... IMO the provari is all you'll ever need. (until something better comes along LOL)
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That the Provari is somehow protecting the user by not handling lower ohms at higher voltage is bogus. Provape came out with the v2 regulator because it was a recognized weakness.
Provari v1 had a hard current limit of 2.5 amps. Pretending that this was some kind of intentional bound is simply not true. It was a limitation of the particular regulator they used, not something people were thrilled with. You could get a v1 up to 15w output if you used a 2.4 ohm carto or atty at 6v, but people wanted to be able to get to the higher power using lower resistance at lower voltage.
The new provari v2 addresses this with a regulator that has an output current limit of 3.5 amps. It loses a little in terms of absolute maximum power output available, but gives better power options at lower voltages.
The provari v2 basically gets you to a working power zone (Max Watts at given volts) that is at least close to what the notcigs products have already provided for 9 months. V2 does have a bit higher max voltage, though I don't know how many people work in the 5.5 - 6v region. V2 also added a bit further low end range, but i've never heard of anyone buying a high performance vv to vape down in the 2.9 - 3.2v region.
If someone wants an LCD, nothing wrong with that. Me, i'm an engineer, but I vape to replace smoking, want my pv to provide a simple interface and consistent performance. Notcigs pro are very rugged, high performance vv, notcigs was the first vendor with production vv.
The provari has zero claim to being somehow superior for less experienced people. I'm constantly reading threads asking about what the error codes mean. In a notcigs pro, if you get to the point where there is too high a voltage, the device stops vaping, the answer is turn the wheel down slightly, not the hundredth new person asking what an E1 or E2 code is (tho the post asking what the 13 and 23 error codes meant, because the user was looking at the screen upside down, were amusing).
Provari v1 had a hard current limit of 2.5 amps. Pretending that this was some kind of intentional bound is simply not true. It was a limitation of the particular regulator they used, not something people were thrilled with. You could get a v1 up to 15w output if you used a 2.4 ohm carto or atty at 6v, but people wanted to be able to get to the higher power using lower resistance at lower voltage.
The new provari v2 addresses this with a regulator that has an output current limit of 3.5 amps. It loses a little in terms of absolute maximum power output available, but gives better power options at lower voltages.
The provari v2 basically gets you to a working power zone (Max Watts at given volts) that is at least close to what the notcigs products have already provided for 9 months. V2 does have a bit higher max voltage, though I don't know how many people work in the 5.5 - 6v region. V2 also added a bit further low end range, but i've never heard of anyone buying a high performance vv to vape down in the 2.9 - 3.2v region.
If someone wants an LCD, nothing wrong with that. Me, i'm an engineer, but I vape to replace smoking, want my pv to provide a simple interface and consistent performance. Notcigs pro are very rugged, high performance vv, notcigs was the first vendor with production vv.
The provari has zero claim to being somehow superior for less experienced people. I'm constantly reading threads asking about what the error codes mean. In a notcigs pro, if you get to the point where there is too high a voltage, the device stops vaping, the answer is turn the wheel down slightly, not the hundredth new person asking what an E1 or E2 code is (tho the post asking what the 13 and 23 error codes meant, because the user was looking at the screen upside down, were amusing).
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thanks so much and you really get a beter vap , hit and taste with a vv mod ?
The provari is a really good device, high performance, excellent reputation and customer service.
The notcigs products have the same positive attributes.
Preference as to the user interface truly is subjective. If you like numbers/buttons/lcd, provari; if you prefer simple elegance, notcigs. Neither approach is inherently right or wrong.
Sorry if my prior post was pushy, but the v2 improving how provari handles lr means that it operates in the same power zone as bp, inconsistent with saying it is somehow doing something special to protect users from using higher power
The notcigs products have the same positive attributes.
Preference as to the user interface truly is subjective. If you like numbers/buttons/lcd, provari; if you prefer simple elegance, notcigs. Neither approach is inherently right or wrong.
Sorry if my prior post was pushy, but the v2 improving how provari handles lr means that it operates in the same power zone as bp, inconsistent with saying it is somehow doing something special to protect users from using higher power
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no problem it wasnt pushy im just looking for any imput i dont have anyone around me that vapes so trying to find all the info i can before i drop $200 on a mod bp or pro or the pro mini not sure of mini nice size not sure if it will last long enough dont want to carry ex batts. I have alot of dcc lr and want to use them that is why i was asking that ? does a vv mod really make the taste hit andsmoke beter than a reg batt
LOL.. I knew that no matter what I said I would get a Buzz person riled. I wouldn't recommend either device to a novice user. I like an led readout that's why I went with the Provari but I looked at the Buzz Pro long and hard. They're both beautiful, quality devices and you would be happy with either one.
I'm not familiar with the device you're using now so I can't comment on whether it will hit harder or produce more vapor. VV means you can turn up the voltage and get more vapor and a hard "hit".
I'm not familiar with the device you're using now so I can't comment on whether it will hit harder or produce more vapor. VV means you can turn up the voltage and get more vapor and a hard "hit".
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im using a lea by innokin 650 mah somketech dcc lr and dcc tank i also drip at home
What a pretty little device! I love the clip! I didn't see any numbers on it but I would imagine it produces in the low 3v range. Like we both said...either the provari or the buzz pro (or the less expensive ipro) will have longer batt life and (since I don't own a lea and don't want to offend any lea owners) I hesitate to make any claims on vapor or hit. But if you buy one of these vv mods and set the voltage to whatever the lea is giving..the vapor and hit would be the same...turn up the voltage and you'd get more. Turn it up too much and you'll either get an error code or a burnt carto.
If I could...I'd own lots of the high end vv devices..but I cant afford to be a collector and could only choose one expensive device. I'm more than happy with my choice. I'm also happy with my cheap madvapes vv box. It does all the important things I need it to do...hold a steady voltage and operate at what I set it to. It doesn't have the fancy led or ohm checker but I don't need that stuff on it.
If I could...I'd own lots of the high end vv devices..but I cant afford to be a collector and could only choose one expensive device. I'm more than happy with my choice. I'm also happy with my cheap madvapes vv box. It does all the important things I need it to do...hold a steady voltage and operate at what I set it to. It doesn't have the fancy led or ohm checker but I don't need that stuff on it.
If you get an error code on a provari v2, on a notcigs pro you would have the device simply stop working until you turn the voltage down. The notcigs products and the provari v2 are comparable in the higher power zone, with notcigs able to put out a little more power, about 0.5w. With both devices, turn the voltage too high and you stop getting vapor; no functional difference, just that the provari puts an error code on the LCD.
With either the notcigs or provari, lr dcc is not really optimal. Lr came out because people wanted to replicate the power of high voltage devices with lower voltage pv, the egos and similar that only output 3.4 - 3.7v. While it is nice/fun to be able to crank the power way up one in a while, many of us spend most of the time somewhere in the 8 - 10w power area. With the notcigs pro devices, I generally use 2.5 Ohms; 4.5v gets me a bit over 8w, and I can vape 6.5ml of eliquid between battery changes. On an ego, to get that 8.1w you would need a 1.4 ohm carto.
As I increase voltage to 5v I am at 10w; an ego would need a carto near 1 ohm to deliver the same power.
The higher power operation available with the good vv is just not replicated by normal ego devices. With even a good 3.7v device it would take a 1.4 ohm carto to hit 10w.
With either the notcigs or provari, lr dcc is not really optimal. Lr came out because people wanted to replicate the power of high voltage devices with lower voltage pv, the egos and similar that only output 3.4 - 3.7v. While it is nice/fun to be able to crank the power way up one in a while, many of us spend most of the time somewhere in the 8 - 10w power area. With the notcigs pro devices, I generally use 2.5 Ohms; 4.5v gets me a bit over 8w, and I can vape 6.5ml of eliquid between battery changes. On an ego, to get that 8.1w you would need a 1.4 ohm carto.
As I increase voltage to 5v I am at 10w; an ego would need a carto near 1 ohm to deliver the same power.
The higher power operation available with the good vv is just not replicated by normal ego devices. With even a good 3.7v device it would take a 1.4 ohm carto to hit 10w.
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