Vapor Flask V3 DNA40 Clone thread

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AtmizrOpin

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Has anyone seen a supply of the 60W TC chipsets Infinite is using? I still have a Chana box searching for a tenant.
I have only seen the Rayn V3 dna 40 clone board for sale at desire-e cig.com and that's even out of stock. If you do happen to find the 60 watt sxk/infinite board let us know.
 
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Well my Infinite flask has been sitting in Chicago since Monday with no tracking updates. I guess it is in customs. Meanwhile, I got my clone subtank mini from FT & so far I think it sucks. Leaking, well pouring at times, everywhere. I have only tried the OCC heads that came with it & even re-wicked them. Which I am sure they are clones as well. I have some authentic ni200 kanger coils coming with my flask. I am going to try those, then the rba section before I make my final judgement. The thing is now that I have gotten the ST i have read all kinds of people talking about the authentic one leaking as well. And yes I have read all the "fixes" to this. Going to be trial & error for awhile I think. Really I should have just ordered real Lemo 2. Sounds like a lot of people on here really like them.
 

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Just a bit of a rant here. My Flask and TGT II according to FT shipped in the wee hours of the 21st. but no working tracking. I thought maybe it was simply not scanned by China Post and I'd get tracking when it got to San Francisco. Nope, just got tracking that it was accepted by China Post. Where's it been for a week?
I suppose it could have been moving and the scanner was just now docked by I doubt it.
I guess maybe it's better than lost. LOL (no such luck)

Edit: since getting their hands on it China post is moving it.
 
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I've 5 authentic sub tank (2 mini 3 nano) & no leaks. Once you get authentic occs your leak will probably go away. Lemo 2 highly recommended.

I have an authentic sub tank mini, and I've used both authentic OCC coils and the RBA deck (mostly). Sometimes it leaks, through the air flow ring. It's nothing to do with the O-rings, I've changed them already.
 

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I have an authentic sub tank mini, and I've used both authentic OCC coils and the RBA deck (mostly). Sometimes it leaks, through the air flow ring. It's nothing to do with the O-rings, I've changed them already.
I have a subtank and a subtank plus. No leaks with either one.
 

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Comparable to working with Kanthal... I'm to understand.

I use Ni200 which is both tempered and annealed and it is far nicer than Kanthal to work with, except for one important respect : it still breaks like egg shell, and in fact breaks easier than normal Ni200 I guess.

Crazy Wire in the UK (wireandstuff.co.uk) sell two kinds of Ni200 - Hard Finish (which is Hard Drawn) and Soft Finish (which is tempered+annealed.) The former doesn't break so easily, but is a pain to work with (like normal Ni200 I guess.) The latter is a joy to mould and shape, but breaks if you look at it funny.

Twisting the Soft Finish in two+ strands makes it less likely to break, but also seems to remove a lot of the softer benefits - I guess because twisting the wire is in effect Hard Drawing it? @WeirdWillie said something along those lines I think, that the twisting process is putting it under tensile force which is like Hard Drawing - if I've remembered that right.

Crazy Wire will soon (or maybe already) be offering Ni200 in thicker gauges, so I'd like to see much stronger /less likely to break 26 gauge or even 24 Soft Finish might be.
 

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Just a heads up, one of the guys from Plumes tried some LV tempered 30ga, and it came out to half the resistance of LV's regular annealed Ni200 30ga.
Half the res?! If that's the case I'm guessing dual coils are going to be difficult. Which I have yet to build. I'm lookin for an atty with adequate room for dual ni200 cows. What can you guys recommend for a roomy atty but still retains the flavor?
 

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What do you mean by tempered+ annealed? It can't be both at the same time, right?

Don't ask me, I'm just quoting what they say :) But I did think that each was a process that could be run on the wire, so you could run the annealing process first then the tempering process?

Maybe that's different to the wire being 'tempered' versus 'annealed' which I guess indicates a state?

So maybe it's the difference between the state of being annealed/tempered, which are mutually exclusive, versus the tempering/annealing process, which could both be done?

No idea to be honest! But I do trust the company, they're the primary wire supplier to many industries in the UK, including the vast majority of all vaping wire.

Anyway this is what they say (link to example Ni200 Soft Finish wire.) EDIT: Corrected the link to the one that states the process.

To achieve the softer finish these wires are tempered AND annealed. Please contact us if you require some info on this process.

 
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I'm lookin for an atty with adequate room for dual ni200 cows. What can you guys recommend for a roomy atty but still retains the flavor?

Just about any dual coil atty that doesn't require long legs (like a Veritas or Marquis) will work just fine. But the trick is, you use 30ga or 32ga.

28ga, tempered OR annealed, is just rubbish for DNA40/ChiNA40 devices IMO. 30ga simply isn't that bad to work with, and even 32ga is manageable.

And then there's this method, if you're having troubles with wicking after mounting the coil:

 

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Don't ask me, I'm just quoting what they say :) But I did think that each was a process that could be run on the wire, so you could run the annealing process first then the tempering process?

Maybe that's different to the wire being 'tempered' versus 'annealed' which I guess indicates a state?

So maybe it's the difference between the state of being annealed/tempered, which are mutually exclusive, versus the tempering/annealing process, which could both be done?

No idea to be honest! But I do trust the company, they're the primary wire supplier to many industries in the UK, including the vast majority of all vaping wire.

Anyway this is what they say (link to example Ni200 Soft Finish wire.) EDIT: Corrected the link to the one that states the process.

To achieve the softer finish these wires are tempered AND annealed. Please contact us if you require some info on this process.

I'm no expert, and could certainly be wrong, but from what I've understood tempered and annealed are pretty much opposites. Tempered is hardened wire, and when heat treated it turns soft. It's basically annealed after that. So, what makes sense to me is hardened = tempered, soft = annealed.
 

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I'm no expert, and could certainly be wrong, but from what I've understood tempered and annealed are pretty much opposites. Tempered is hardened wire, and when heat treated it turns soft. It's basically annealed after that. So, what makes sense to me is hardened = tempered, soft = annealed.

Perhaps they temper the wire first and then anneal it, thus it ends up soft like annealed but retains some benefit of first being tempered?

I could email them to ask I guess.
 
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