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Bassnorma

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Thank you! I still consider myself an rba newb and I was pretty proud of this coil.

Well...I did manage to snap off a leg on the first coil I tried. No biggie, this one came out better anyway. :)

You did a great job! That coil is damned near perfect. Did you use a coil jig?
 

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I've had nothing but bad experiences with contact coils. Face palm. Everything always looks like it's working well, but when I remove everything and observe the coil after 3 or 4 sec of firing, there's usually a stupid intense hot leg. Shakes head


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I've had nothing but bad experiences with contact coils. Face palm. Everything always looks like it's working well, but when I remove everything and observe the coil after 3 or 4 sec of firing, there's usually a stupid intense hot leg. Shakes head


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Well, there was this information going around that you should not pulse fire. Nonsense...you can pulse fire at low watts and tidy up like you always do...
 

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Well, there was this information going around that you should not pulse fire. Nonsense...you can pulse fire at low watts and tidy up like you always do...

Yeah imma try that tmr if my flask would actually cooperate enough for me to finish vaping my kayfun. I've got a massive coil: 28ga, 13 wrap around 3mm. Gonna try pulsing it between 5 to 8 watts and see how it goes.


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Oh well. It was too good to be true. Vaped thru a full tank...filled again. Replaced the atty...now the resistance is showing .15 (was .17 before), ok, no biggie. Vape on it for awhile then all of a sudden it went into perma-temperature protection mode. It's too late to investigate...tomorrow will do. Oh well.
 

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Finally tried a contact coil after reading yesterdays posts here, thanks finally got a good vape, w/28g 11 wraps on 3/32nds, came out to .16 ohms on meter, .15 on VF. (i did the math based on .3778 ohms/ft on 28g Ni & got that it should have been .11 ohms, so not sure what's up w/that but my 2 prior Ni coils also read higher than calculated on 2 diff meters and the VF)

It took close to 8 watts to pulse it enough to pinch it just a bit w/ceramic tweezers, but outer wraps on each side were having a tough time getting heat to them (with or w/o tweezers) even tho i pulsed it enough that middle of coil was glowing orange, & had it been kanthal the entire coil would have been orange. It's vaping good now for the 1st time, but i would try 9-10 wraps max of 28g next time. (usually do 8 wraps w/kanthal, and now can practice spaced coils some other day).

Not gonna take apart an R91 for a 4th time until there's a problem w/this coil, but my guess is that too many wraps makes middle section of contact coil hot while outer edges are cool, but since the board reads average temp & i don't have infrared temp sensing equipment i got no clue how extreme the difference may be. I don't recall ever seeing kanthal behave that way to that extreme. Not sure what the implications of that may be, but will try just 9 wraps next time, maybe 10 max. (unless/until my vf tweaks also)

Also had a hot leg in a tiny piece of wire where i clipped it after going a full 360 around the post screws, but it was fine as soon as i tucked that tiny piece under the screw.

Am dreading what may happen once i vape a few tankfuls w/tc, only had this thing 3 1/2 days.
 

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Finally tried a contact coil after reading yesterdays posts here, thanks finally got a good vape, w/28g 11 wraps on 3/32nds, came out to .16 ohms on meter, .15 on VF. (i did the math based on .3778 ohms/ft on 28g Ni & got that it should have been .11 ohms, so not sure what's up w/that but my 2 prior Ni coils also read higher than calculated on 2 diff meters and the VF)

It took close to 8 watts to pulse it enough to pinch it just a bit w/ceramic tweezers, but outer wraps on each side were having a tough time getting heat to them (with or w/o tweezers) even tho i pulsed it enough that middle of coil was glowing orange, & had it been kanthal the entire coil would have been orange. It's vaping good now for the 1st time, but i would try 9-10 wraps max of 28g next time. (usually do 8 wraps w/kanthal, and now can practice spaced coils some other day).

Not gonna take apart an R91 for a 4th time until there's a problem w/this coil, but my guess is that too many wraps makes middle section of contact coil hot while outer edges are cool, but since the board reads average temp & i don't have infrared temp sensing equipment i got no clue how extreme the difference may be. I don't recall ever seeing kanthal behave that way to that extreme. Not sure what the implications of that may be, but will try just 9 wraps next time, maybe 10 max. (unless/until my vf tweaks also)

Also had a hot leg in a tiny piece of wire where i clipped it after going a full 360 around the post screws, but it was fine as soon as i tucked that tiny piece under the screw.

Am dreading what may happen once i vape a few tankfuls w/tc, only had this thing 3 1/2 days.

The math doesn't work because ur forgetting the resistance of the posts, the atty material and such


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Hees? Is that your real pic? Are you shaving? What's goin on there?

Yeah I'm on a lot of the straight razor shaving forums and this has always been my avatar... So I use it on every forums

For example here's what I shaved with last night...

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U think vaping is expensive... Look into straight razor shaving

Jpcwon and brooksie967 are on both forums too.... They are the enablers that got me hooked on rebuildables ...


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Bassnorma

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Yeah I'm on a lot of the straight razor shaving forums and this has always been my avatar... So I use it on every forums

For example here's what I shaved with last night...

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U think vaping is expensive... Look into straight razor shaving

Jpcwon and brooksie967 are on both forums too.... They are the enablers that got me hooked on rebuildables ...


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Haha!!! Cool...there is definitely an art to straight razors, or so I hear.
 

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So often we hear only the reports of mods malfunctioning. I wanted to report that the Vapor Flask DNA 40 that I received from Vapinart at the first release has been working perfectly. I've exclusively used nickel wire and the DNA board is performing as advertised. My only issue is that the screen is slightly crooked.

I did have an issue with my vapor flask DNA 30, in that there was a loose 510 ground wire, which was causing poor battery life, but it was an easy fix over the phone with Charlie.

I do hope that those who have been having problems get them resolved quickly and that VF and Evolv get their QC in order, because this really is a wonderful device.
 

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So often we hear only the reports of mods malfunctioning. I wanted to report that the Vapor Flask DNA 40 that I received from Vapinart at the first release has been working perfectly. I've exclusively used nickel wire and the DNA board is performing as advertised. My only issue is that the screen is slightly crooked.

I did have an issue with my vapor flask DNA 30, in that there was a loose 510 ground wire, which was causing poor battery life, but it was an easy fix over the phone with Charlie.

I do hope that those who have been having problems get them resolved quickly and that VF and Evolv get their QC in order, because this really is a wonderful device.

I for one am glad to hear that about your DNA40 Flask. I've worked in CS and am painfully aware that you usually only hear from people with problems. I had to constantly remind our reps that we had millions of satisfied customers and that we only heard from the ones that had problems.
 

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So often we hear only the reports of mods malfunctioning. I wanted to report that the Vapor Flask DNA 40 that I received from Vapinart at the first release has been working perfectly. I've exclusively used nickel wire and the DNA board is performing as advertised. My only issue is that the screen is slightly crooked.

Agreed. We typically only hear of those having issues.

Funny you should mention VapinArt. I currently own 4 Flasks. One D30 from VapeRev (flawless) and 3 D40s. 2 from Dixie's (flawless) and 1 from VapinArt (Currently RMA. Buggered screen, losing settings).

I did have an issue with my vapor flask DNA 30, in that there was a loose 510 ground wire, which was causing poor battery life, but it was an easy fix over the phone with Charlie.

Yup, they really do take care of you. Although,my D30 has been perfect, as mentioned above.

I do hope that those who have been having problems get them resolved quickly and that VF and Evolv get their QC in order, because this really is a wonderful device.

Again, agreed. I am loving my Flasks even though one was toast on arrival. Such are the dealings with being an early adopter. I get it and am cool with it. Bleeding edge and all.
 

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So often we hear only the reports of mods malfunctioning. I wanted to report that the Vapor Flask DNA 40 that I received from Vapinart at the first release has been working perfectly. I've exclusively used nickel wire and the DNA board is performing as advertised. My only issue is that the screen is slightly crooked.

I did have an issue with my vapor flask DNA 30, in that there was a loose 510 ground wire, which was causing poor battery life, but it was an easy fix over the phone with Charlie.

I do hope that those who have been having problems get them resolved quickly and that VF and Evolv get their QC in order, because this really is a wonderful device.
How did they have you fix the connection ? Did you remove the small hex screws and tighten bolt under the 510 connection. Because that's what they told me to do over the phone abd it didn't help me. My v2 Flask is giving me poor battery readout when my batteries get half dead. Its done it to 2 different sets of batteries. I'm using Vtc 4s and 5s. I'm supposed to be sending it in to get repaired for the problem. Not sure which one bothers me more, changing batteries early or sending in the Flask.
 

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How did they have you fix the connection ? Did you remove the small hex screws and tighten bolt under the 510 connection. Because that's what they told me to do over the phone abd it didn't help me. My v2 Flask is giving me poor battery readout when my batteries get half dead. Its done it to 2 different sets of batteries. I'm using Vtc 4s and 5s. I'm supposed to be sending it in to get repaired for the problem. Not sure which one bothers me more, changing batteries early or sending in the Flask.

That is exactly how i did it. Worked like a charm. Sorry it didn't fix your issue.
 

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Well, my NI200 has arrived. Unfortunately they only had 0.2mm in stock so I've spent the last 40 minutes or so swearing at it. Finally managed to get two respectable looking microcoils into the atty. 16 wraps each around a 2mm needle, coming out at about 0.13 ohms. Pulsed them very gently at very low watts and there's a hotspot on each coil but the legs are ok. Trusted in Brandon's advice that hotspots on the coil were probably fine.

Couldn't get the Flask to recognise nickel until I reset by taking the batteries out but now seems to be behaving itself. First go at 420F with 17 watts and clouds appeared but no throat hit. Whacked it up to 460F and 22 watts and getting loads of vapour and a decent throat hit. My juice tastes completely different than I've ever had it. Actually much better with different flavours coming out.

It's been a faff, but definitely worth it, and hopefully will get easier with practice.
 
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