Ya just can't beat pitch forks and torches for arming an angry mob... a classic, in my opinion that is always better and more tasteful than tar and feathers... so... well... messy, actually.
Variable Voltage and Patent
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Ya just can't beat pitch forks and torches for arming an angry mob... a classic, in my opinion that is always better and more tasteful than tar and feathers... so... well... messy, actually.
Well if your patent goes through and I can't get a VV from anyone else, can you please atleast release your PVs on schedule
And design them to custom specs?
Stainless with a flush deep juice well, knurled or smooth end caps, monster buttons, pronto service (with a smile).
How do I charge the batteries?
Go Mike go.
Call the next one THE Wheel, get it patented maybe it would start a war.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you Zen for your good posts. The thing I'm must worried about is the sheer factor that he'll be the owner of the patent, and having the ability to control the licensing allows him to control the market. My experience with human nature is that humans will abuse any type of power and control that they have. I don't personally know Buzzkill, but I have to assume the worst when he posts questionable statements.
I would have been fine if he would have stated that theres no licensing required, everything in regards to developing VV products is open source and free to build/develop without licensing. But he didn't, his stating everyone who makes a VV product is now needing to get licensed by him.
My thoughts go towards Microsoft, and their licensing agreements with a $200-300 price tags for retail operating systems.
I would have been fine if he would have stated that theres no licensing required, everything in regards to developing VV products is open source and free to build/develop without licensing. But he didn't, his stating everyone who makes a VV product is now needing to get licensed by him.
My thoughts go towards Microsoft, and their licensing agreements with a $200-300 price tags for retail operating systems.
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Look at it this way would you rather have had a large corporation hold the Patten and for sure control the market for the purpose of making money for share holders.
IMO better Mike then Big industry or the tobacco industry that will fore sure exploit us as they have in the past.
Just my 2c and another way of looking at it.
Na, I rather no one have sole ownership of the patent. My problem is his past statements in regards to licensing, and please trust me, I hate big business and corporations. I just don't like the idea of a single person having full control of a sector of the market. Just appears to me that Buzzkill or Mike, is trying to become big industry within the VV market.
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I can see your concern, but in today's world someone will own it and I will take Mike over the possibility of a big tobacco company that will or possibly shelf it for there own purpose.
Big industry will charge way more then Mike would due to wanting to control the market for the purpose of $ for there share holders. or will shelf the product line and choke the market to buy what is profitable to them in order to secure $ for there share holder.
I think more mod builders need to start safe guarding there investments, or some one else will. Just my 2c
In a perfect world that might work but this isn't a perfect word. There are people that take someones work, time and money and copy them for profit. They fall into the same catagory as scabs that cross picket lines and music piraters. He only patented the variable voltage that he came out with. That can be added to and changed so many ways and patented again that it's funny. I like his products and his prices and don't want to pay RJ Reynolds or some company like them 5 times the price notcig charges. I applaud him for keeping that from happening.
Fair enough. We'll see where this goes in the near future (idk, 1-2 years.) Thank you guys for your responses.
interesting how the patent application was filed in January and many VV devices existed long before that.....I wonder how much money will be spent on lawyers that could IMO be spent to further improve the technology for us vapers......
From what I understand, at this point this is just a Patent Application, thus a Patent has not been issued.....please correct me if this is incorrect........
Just my 2-cents.. not "stiring the pot" just giving my thoughts......
Folks, whether or not we agree with or disagree with this decision, the bottom line is that it is anyone's right to apply for a patent on anything they "Feel" is rightly their idea. Not everyone is going to like it and that too is quite alright. Even I myself gave a pretty opinionated response to this, however after acting like an adult and asking questions after the initial shock wore off I too agree that this move is his to make.
And besides, it is only an application at this point, not solid and in concrete.
That's my tid bit for the day. Glad everyone has seemed to calm down on this finally
I too believe this to be better than Phillip Morris or RJ Reynolds getting their grubby little paws on it.
Nate aka Darth Vapor
And besides, it is only an application at this point, not solid and in concrete.
That's my tid bit for the day. Glad everyone has seemed to calm down on this finally
I too believe this to be better than Phillip Morris or RJ Reynolds getting their grubby little paws on it.
Nate aka Darth Vapor
Good point.....As a consumer, I can choose who to purchase from....and I have......and I can choose who NOT to purchase from....and I have....
Edit for clarification: just stating my feelings on consumer's choices.....by the way, I have never made a purchase from notcig's because their products never interested me......that does not mean that they are not a viable company, just not for me.....there are many companies I choose not to use.....
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Super-T-Manufacturing did the same thing as Mike is doing not too long ago. Super wanted to protect the bottom button design that they invented. I got steamed over it thinking they were trying to corner the market until I understood exactly what they were putting a patent on. It wasn't bottom buttons in general but the way theirs was designed. Letters were sent out (and not worded properly IMO) to other bottom button inventors. Now realizing what their patent was all about, I think they made a smart move.
Mike is doing the same thing. He's only protecting his invention. He's not telling others that they can't have a VV design but they can't have one identical to his without permission. They have to have something slightly different in their design versus his. I can't blame him for doing this. His design is his design and he should own all rights to it.
Now if Mike is doing it to sell out for a big chunk of money, then I will never own another one of his inventions but I don't see Mike doing this. He cares about his employees and inventions.
ProVape is no different. They invented the ProVari and it shouldn't be copied, as is with all inventors.
I hope that each company that produces any type of PV puts protection on it with a patent so that no big corporation can stake claims to it or reproduce it.
Mike is doing the same thing. He's only protecting his invention. He's not telling others that they can't have a VV design but they can't have one identical to his without permission. They have to have something slightly different in their design versus his. I can't blame him for doing this. His design is his design and he should own all rights to it.
Now if Mike is doing it to sell out for a big chunk of money, then I will never own another one of his inventions but I don't see Mike doing this. He cares about his employees and inventions.
ProVape is no different. They invented the ProVari and it shouldn't be copied, as is with all inventors.
I hope that each company that produces any type of PV puts protection on it with a patent so that no big corporation can stake claims to it or reproduce it.
why would you not purchase from Notcigs anymore? You're being pretty childish.
Let me get a post from another subforum in here. Leannbug put it better than I ever will be.
Let me get a post from another subforum in here. Leannbug put it better than I ever will be.
So where are all the ugly,contentious posts and threads about this then?
Let me look for the other thread about it. I'm surprised that they haven't posted in here yet. Mike was really getting bashed over it.
Edit: Super deleted the threads I think....I'll check.
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