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Went back to a single coil. Flavor is just better. This build is 26g 2mm inner diameter at .62ohm. I'd like to try some lower restistances, but sticking to one coil, I'm gonna have to get some thicker wire.
 

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Hmm. I haven't tried a single horizontal yet. Been hearing so much about the difference, I'll have to give it a try. I do like low resistance with more surface area, though. I have some 24ga and I think I'll give it a 9 or 10 wrap test a little later. We'll see about response times on my mechs since I don't have any high-powered/low ohms regulateds.
 

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True, but what option do I have to go lower on a single coil?

Sadly, there are tradeoffs and you have to decide what works best for you. Lower resistance means more wire and longer heat up times. You can compensate by jacking up your power but then you get warmer. You could attain lower resistance by using less wraps but then you get less wire and less area.

The Provari P3 has a "boost" option. I forget what they call it...hotshot or something like that. It delivers a high power shot when you first hit the fire button so it gets the coil up to temperature quicker. Then it backs off quickly and settles into your preferred power setting. I'm hearing it works quite well and potentially is a solution for those of us who dread long heat up times. The jury is still out on this feature as the P3 is not prevalent at this time. If it works as designed, it could be a game changer for some of us (including me). I wish Evolv would consider the same feature in their dna chipsets.
 

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Hmm. I haven't tried a single horizontal yet. Been hearing so much about the difference, I'll have to give it a try. I do like low resistance with more surface area, though. I have some 24ga and I think I'll give it a 9 or 10 wrap test a little later. We'll see about response times on my mechs since I don't have any high-powered/low ohms regulateds.

Twist, I tried 26 ga on my mech and it was still too slow for me. But we're all different so if you have some 24ga it is worth a try. I need a dna if I want to try those thick wires.
 

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Sadly, there are tradeoffs and you have to decide what works best for you. Lower resistance means more wire and longer heat up times. You can compensate by jacking up your power but then you get warmer. You could attain lower resistance by using less wraps but then you get less wire and less area.

The Provari P3 has a "boost" option. I forget what they call it...hotshot or something like that. It delivers a high power shot when you first hit the fire button so it gets the coil up to temperature quicker. Then it backs off quickly and settles into your preferred power setting. I'm hearing it works quite well and potentially is a solution for those of us who dread long heat up times. The jury is still out on this feature as the P3 is not prevalent at this time. If it works as designed, it could be a game changer for some of us (including me). I wish Evolv would consider the same feature in their dna chipsets.

Evolv didn't only consider that feature, they implemented it in their DNA-40 along with the Revolutional Temperature Control, that everybody 's talking about.

 

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Evolv didn't only consider that feature, they implemented it in their DNA-40 along with the Revolutional Temperature Control, that everybody 's talking about.



I did not interpret their temp control gave a power boost but was rather a limit on how hot the coil would be allowed to get.
 

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I did not interpret their temp control gave a power boost but was rather a limit on how hot the coil would be allowed to get.
Yeah, two separate things, but it does both; raises wattage higher than the setting until the coil gets up to temperature.

Just watched Busardo's review of the Veritas. He did the same horizontal single many of us are doing, and mentioned how it would be nice if a version was released that had two posts in front of the airhole for easy single coils. That would be awesome for me; do away with having long leads and dealing with the top nut which I'm not a fan of.
 

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I don't mind the top post, although I would vastly prefer a thumb screw over the tiny hex nut. I may try to find one that fits.

The negative posts are horrible. Trying to secure 2 wires like in my previous parallel horizontal build was a royal pain In the .... I'd like to see something other than a screw for a V2.
 

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Yeah, two separate things, but it does both; raises wattage higher than the setting until the coil gets up to temperature.

Just watched Busardo's review of the Veritas. He did the same horizontal single many of us are doing, and mentioned how it would be nice if a version was released that had two posts in front of the airhole for easy single coils. That would be awesome for me; do away with having long leads and dealing with the top nut which I'm not a fan of.

I'll have to revisit that temp control feature. I thought it was simply a limiter. Hmmmmm.

I thought that Veritas review by PB was horrible. He is one of the best reviewers still going but I thought he dropped the ball on this one. Converting one of those neg screws to positive makes no sense to me at all. You turn it into a single coil-only device. Unless you're saying there should/could be two versions? Personally, I find building a single coil on the Veritas to be a piece of cake but then I also know I'm not the only one alive. :) And the top nut doesn't bother me either. I just use my tweezers to tighten it. It almost has to be a nut top so the center pin can remain adjustable.
 

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Went back to a single coil. Flavor is just better. This build is 26g 2mm inner diameter at .62ohm. I'd like to try some lower restistances, but sticking to one coil, I'm gonna have to get some thicker wire.
There's a couple options to lower resistance while increasing surface area for mech use. One is twisted wire, I was able to get more wraps with lower resistance on the Veritas using 3 strands of twisted 31ga than my normal 28ga single.

Another optiin is doing a parallel build to get double the wraps for a single coil. I'm thinking of trying parallel 28ga, but not looking forward to see how hard it is catching two leads on the positive post. I struggle enough with one lead.
 

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Check a page or 2 ago. I did a parallel build to try and recapture that single coil flavor with lower resistance. Unfortunately, it performed almost identically to a double vert build of similar resistance.

I haven't tried twisted yet, but I fear it will suffer the same fate.

And yes, it was a royal PITA to get both wires under one post.
 

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I'll have to revisit that temp control feature. I thought it was simply a limiter. Hmmmmm.

I thought that Veritas review by PB was horrible. He is one of the best reviewers still going but I thought he dropped the ball on this one. Converting one of those neg screws to positive makes no sense to me at all. You turn it into a single coil-only device. Unless you're saying there should/could be two versions? Personally, I find building a single coil on the Veritas to be a piece of cake but then I also know I'm not the only one alive. :) And the top nut doesn't bother me either. I just use my tweezers to tighten it. It almost has to be a nut top so the center pin can remain adjustable.

Makes total sense to me, having two posts with holes in them to put the leads in and tightening down. Be a lot easier for many doing a single coil build and gets rid of the long legs. Would have to be a separate version from the dual option.
 

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Check a page or 2 ago. I did a parallel build to try and recapture that single coil flavor with lower resistance. Unfortunately, it performed almost identically to a double vert build of similar resistance.

I haven't tried twisted yet, but I fear it will suffer the same fate.

And yes, it was a royal PITA to get both wires under one post.

I figured that would be the case, tough trying to get the two leads under the neg screw; I'll trust you that it's a PITA and skip trying it.

Give the twisted a try, it works quite well for many. I went with 31ga because I have a spool on hand. A triple wire twist gives me a similar experience to 28ga, though I have to use slightly less resistance for equal heat up on a mech. Maybe I'll try 2 strands of 28ga twisted next Veritas build.
 
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