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[DC2]

What about the societal implications when those who never smoke start vaping.
It's a real can of worms and it's going to be discussed at all the Govt meetings nationwide.

What about the societal implications when those who've never ingested caffeine start drinking coffee?
We need to smash the current ideologies and replace them with a less brainwash-induced view of the reality of the situation.

 

[Petrodus]

What about the societal implications when those who've never ingested caffeine start drinking coffee?
We need to smash the current ideologies and replace them with a less brainwash-induced view of the reality of the situation.

"Common sense" ???
You must be some kind of radical conspiracy theorist !!

 

[soba1]

Thank you for going. I did send an email and call the woman named Julia Gonzales. I was wiped out but thanks....I know no excuses
I'm in the SFV I'm so glad...

 

[Hulamoon]

If cigarette manufacturing just stopped and was not sold in stores ever again, and all that was left was vaping, the point might have merit.
However, I would respectfully suggest that it is falsely based on the premise that even if there was no vaping alternative, that there also aren't any new cigarette smokers starting up right now this second as I write, and you read, this.
In other words, who's to say that they aren't picking up the healthier alternative to the traditional one.

Annia the Councilman brought up a point that's going to be very problematic for the future.

Let's face it Vaping, even 0 nicotine is pleasurable. It's not remaining or going to remain just for Ex-Smokers. Of course we are going to keep it out of the hands of minors
but
What about the societal implications when those who never smoke start vaping.
It's a real can of worms and it's going to be discussed at all the Govt meetings nationwide.

 

[AgentAnia]

I'll go even further, Hulamoon and tomzgreat. Absent evidence that may crop up at a later date that vaping is dangerous for whatever reason, why is there concern if a never-smoker takes up vaping? At this time, there is NO evidence that nicotine by itself is any worse for us, and probably in the same category of dependence-producing, as caffeine. At this time there is no known danger from any of the other ingredients of e-juice. Either such a person would never have smoked but is vaping -- at no known harm to him/herself -- or that person would have started to smoke but instead starts to vape -- at considerably LESS harm and possibly no known harm to him/herself.

To me, the "but what about never-smokers who may start to vape" argument is a bugaboo invented by the ANTZ.

 

[2coils]

TOMZGREAT thank you for your efforts!!
P.S Thanks to everyone fighting! This is what its going to take!

 

[2coils]

I'll go even further, Hulamoon and tomzgreat. Absent evidence that may crop up at a later date that vaping is dangerous for whatever reason, why is there concern if a never-smoker takes up vaping? At this time, there is NO evidence that nicotine by itself is any worse for us, and probably in the same category of dependence-producing, as caffeine. At this time there is no known danger from any of the other ingredients of e-juice. Either such a person would never have smoked but is vaping -- at no known harm to him/herself -- or that person would have started to smoke but instead starts to vape -- at considerably LESS harm and possibly no known harm to him/herself.

To me, the "but what about never-smokers who may start to vape" argument is a bugaboo invented by the ANTZ.

Yea, I just don't see it. I personally believe even those who decide they want to inhale some form of nicotine should have a healthier alternative to turn to. Smoker or non. I really don't believe non smokers have any desire to try any tobacco or alternative on a whim.

 

[niczgreat]

If cigarette manufacturing just stopped and was not sold in stores ever again, and all that was left was vaping, the point might have merit.
However, I would respectfully suggest that it is falsely based on the premise that even if there was no vaping alternative, that there also aren't any new cigarette smokers starting up right now this second as I write, and you read, this.
In other words, who's to say that they aren't picking up the healthier alternative to the traditional one.

Bravo Hulamoon Ingenious thinking outside the box

 

[Uma]

This thread warms the heart thoroughly. Awesome job everyone who spoke up and for CASAA for their help and alerts. Tomzgreat, you were named right my friend. You were GREAT!!