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I definitely need to try this, i have more than enough 500 ss mesh i'm just not sure what you guys mean by rolling the wicks at an angle. I understand the concept of 3-7 wicks working much better but that part went over my head.. Maybe a video of someone rolling a diagonal? Also what is the benefit of these super tight kanthal coils i'm seeing? I'm hoping you guys can educate a noob on how to do this style on a cobra..
 

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I definitely need to try this, i have more than enough 500 ss mesh i'm just not sure what you guys mean by rolling the wicks at an angle. I understand the concept of 3-7 wicks working much better but that part went over my head.. Maybe a video of someone rolling a diagonal? Also what is the benefit of these super tight kanthal coils i'm seeing? I'm hoping you guys can educate a noob on how to do this style on a cobra..

The bundle of coils all contacting each other (vs spaced out) acts differently both thermally and in resistance. Basically, when one wrap exudes it's heat, it is serving to further heat the adjacent wraps (rather than dissipating). So, your coil is getting hotter. Heat increases resistance, because nuclei are excited and vibrating more, offering a "bigger" target for the electrons trying to swim by. Increased resistance increases heat . . . . . . . and so on and yada-yada. This coil setup kicks faster than a big loose spacing. Faster response time. It also brightens the flavors of the juice. Before, I made super fat wicks with a spread out 3/4 wrap; giving me a gentle mellow bassy vape. This is more poppin and bright. (Like an HH357)
 

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I was just thinking how I wanna emphasize that seven strands makes a big difference. I realize, tho, that not everyone has big or drilled-out wick holes. :( The seven strands make a shape, the circle of six and one in the center; where all the circles (tube cross-sections) are shoulder to shoulder, but not crushing each other. If a person can do the full seven; it is totally worth it! (Not if it means crushing tubes tho.) And, yeah, the tight coil stacking is just personal preference; but I think its worth at least one build to see if you like it.

edit: remember, long legs ▼ ▼ are harmless. (i.e. a tight coil with legs reaching to the +/- is fine)

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Did you already try porous ceramic and abandon it?

Not trying to sound like an idiot, I'm just wondering.

Porous ceramic is great; I have it in my dripper. Lots of folks swear by it for good reason. For me, @ .6Ω/.7Ω it can't keep up. Genisis is nice, but gravity's a b--ch.
 

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long legs... you mean the distance of the wire to the neg and mostly the pos. post?
most tutorials say shorten the distance is better... would be nice not to worry about that...
I usually (always) get a top hot spot, and i have to pulse on and on ... of course checking everything else is right...
I was just thinking how I wanna emphasize that seven strands makes a big difference. I realize, tho, that not everyone has big or drilled-out wick holes. :( The seven strands make a shape, the circle of six and one in the center; where all the circles (tube cross-sections) are shoulder to shoulder, but not crushing each other. If a person can do the full seven; it is totally worth it! (Not if it means crushing tubes tho.) And, yeah, the tight coil stacking is just personal preference; but I think its worth at least one build to see if you like it.

edit: remember, long legs ▼ ▼ are harmless. (i.e. a tight coil with legs reaching to the +/- is fine)

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long legs... you mean the distance of the wire to the neg and mostly the pos. post?
most tutorials say shorten the distance is better... would be nice not to worry about that...
I usually (always) get a top hot spot, and i have to pulse on and on ... of course checking everything else is right...

Yes. You heard right. Its a myth that won't let go. Here's another example.

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Porous ceramic is great; I have it in my dripper. Lots of folks swear by it for good reason. For me, @ .6Ω/.7Ω it can't keep up. Genisis is nice, but gravity's a b--ch.

Also, I've noticed that quantity has a lot to do with taste. Genisis have big wicks; big enough to cause flavor tainting issues. I used to roll 7" of ss mesh into a wick, and, yeah, I could taste it. Same goes for bubble stone. can't really taste it in a dripper, but a 1.5" x fattie wick . . . . tastes like stone
 

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I like em tight too, and with 28g you can use more wraps and still get low resistance.... so is it true say if 1. you have a 4/3 or even 3/2 wrap and you have to bridge a pretty wide gap to get from neg to pos post so wider spacing ... and 2. you have long legs... not so good for even firing of coils ?
I'm in no position to dispute this however, that works IF your coils are tightly spaced as yours are. I prefer the tightly spaced coils myself.
 

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After the screw incident I had to try this out. I only had some 340 (or whatever it is) mesh. Cut some diagonal, some not. I started out making tubes the first 2. Hell with that I just started rolling them super tight. I also insulated the wick with cotton bluegrasslover style. First hit was great but a little sputtery so I upped the wattage and got one of those deep hits that makes your heart speed up for a bit. I did a very informal wicking experiment today. I made one of the little tubes and a little solid and the solid seem to win. All I'm saying is that you can use these technique in a very sloppy fashion like I did and it will still give you an incredible wick. Kudos pdib. :vapor:
 

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I tried out the 3 twisted strands. Works great right now. First time able to get this AGA T2 to work right. Vaping really well. On a 4/5 wrap with 30ga kanthal at 1.5ohms. Its on my Zmax at 11.0 watts. Flavor is developing just need to let the wicks season up a bit. Really impressed with this setup. The twists are kind of wonky but is wicking really well.

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