Yes, Kurt did say that he felt some vendors are using citric acid to neutralize a strong nic odor & taste. I don't think he knew how many, but I vaguely remember he mentioned one or two by name. In a recent post he said that some have contacted him about testing or getting info on nic. and that most are tight lipped about their liquid but a few are openly working with him.
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Yes, Kurt did say that he felt some vendors are using citric acid to neutralize a strong nic odor & taste. I don't think he knew how many, but I vaguely remember he mentioned one or two by name. In a recent post he said that some have contacted him about testing or getting info on nic. and that most are tight lipped about their liquid but a few are openly working with him.
Is this in reference to the Nic Strength testing thread? I know some samples of Vinegar were vapped.
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A good point! But I think in the small quantities we are mixing, and using only a few drops, that it wouldn't make much difference in using pure citric acid or pure acetic acid. Lemon juice is already mixed to a pH of around 2.0 and I don't think by making it more concentrated it would lower it by much if anything. Pure citric acid might not have the lemon or lime taste, so might be worth investigating further.
I do however CAUTION anyone attempting to use PURE acetic acid! It is CORROSIVE and will cause CHEMICAL BURNS on the skin! (Perhaps something we shouldn't be playing with since we plan on inhaling the end result.) All the vinegars I saw at the grocery store were intentionally diluted to 5% acid content, probably to maintain product uniformity but it also makes it much safer for us to use.
Pete
Hi folks,
An amazingly interesting read! Right in time too, as I started DIYing about a month ago and have a lot to learn
I've read a few times in some other threads that adding champagne flavouring to your mix gives it "fizziness" and "kick". I actually was about to order some to try and then it dawned on me, that perhaps this is essentially the same effect and if I stick to vinegar I should be fine? What do you all think?
An amazingly interesting read! Right in time too, as I started DIYing about a month ago and have a lot to learn
I've read a few times in some other threads that adding champagne flavouring to your mix gives it "fizziness" and "kick". I actually was about to order some to try and then it dawned on me, that perhaps this is essentially the same effect and if I stick to vinegar I should be fine? What do you all think?
Hi folks,
An amazingly interesting read! Right in time too, as I started DIYing about a month ago and have a lot to learn
I've read a few times in some other threads that adding champagne flavouring to your mix gives it "fizziness" and "kick". I actually was about to order some to try and then it dawned on me, that perhaps this is essentially the same effect and if I stick to vinegar I should be fine? What do you all think?
You won't get the "fizzy" effect using vinegar. You might want to order the champagne to achieve your goal in that area.
Thanks Pete
LOL, yes likely too little reward for the small time DIY. Look above and you will see this comment was in response to someone speculating that suppliers were selling lemon juice and table vinegar.
Vermillion river seems to be using lemon ,citric and vinegar in their juice . From their site
E-Liquid - E-Liquid is the liquid heated by the atomizer for vaporization into an inhalable vapor. There are many different types of E-Liquid available. All contain similar ingredients but the most commonly found ingredients in E-Liquid are Propylene Glycol, Glycerine, natural and artificial flavors, tobacco essential oil, tobacco absolute, citric acid, lemon, vinegar and water.
ALso heres some info i found on apple cider vinegar and the percentages of aetic and citric acid .
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-suppl...=816&activeIngredientName=APPLE CIDER VINEGAR
E-Liquid - E-Liquid is the liquid heated by the atomizer for vaporization into an inhalable vapor. There are many different types of E-Liquid available. All contain similar ingredients but the most commonly found ingredients in E-Liquid are Propylene Glycol, Glycerine, natural and artificial flavors, tobacco essential oil, tobacco absolute, citric acid, lemon, vinegar and water.
ALso heres some info i found on apple cider vinegar and the percentages of aetic and citric acid .
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-suppl...=816&activeIngredientName=APPLE CIDER VINEGAR
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What's next? Hydrochloric, Muriatic, and Sulfuric??? You Guys need to be careful playing with acids..
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I have finally gotten around to giving this a try. I recently made a batch of gooey butter cake which was pretty good. I decided to add one drop of lemon juice to this 3ml, lightly flavored sample. I'm pretty shocked at the immediate difference it made. The flavor hasn't changed at all, but it has a -IDK-richness? full bodiness? that wasn't there before. What ever it is, it has made a noticeable improvement in the juice.
Yes muriatic acid i use daily ,not in my juice but it is a ingredient in my ecig mod building
All the acids we are talking about here are in most of the vendors juice we vape already .
Darn..I know what's missing.. What did the FDA complain about when they first tested E liquid?
It makes the juice to sweet though and doesnt produce much vapor since it keeps our coils cool .
How about the Summertime solution?It makes the juice to sweet though and doesnt produce much vapor since it keeps our coils cool .
It really depends on the flavoring that we are using. Capella seems to have less ph than everyone else.. FA and TPA burns my tongue, mixed at higher levels.. Also depends on the nic. quality. We'll just keep playing with it until we get it right.. Good thing is I just make my juice for my family and friends, and they seem to enjoy it..
For anyone interested I found Tart & Sour on Amazon for $5.93 with free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Tart-Sour-Flavor-Enhancer-Count/dp/B003EMSPAI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1326862237&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.com/Tart-Sour-Flavor-Enhancer-Count/dp/B003EMSPAI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1326862237&sr=8-5
I got my Tart and sour for 3.00 shipped on ebay.I think onestopDIY may come out cheaper with shipping as well .
That's where I got mine. I shop Amazon a LOT, so it's convenient to just throw something like that in with the rest of my order.
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