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Rina

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Imeo may correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the temperature you set it at isn't as big a factor in burning the wick than the function it has that prevents it from functioning if there is no liquid. Simply put, whatever temperature limit set, the VIR will stop working once the wick is dry, therefore it won't burn the wick.
 

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Imeo may correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the temperature you set it at isn't as big a factor in burning the wick than the function it has that prevents it from functioning if there is no liquid. Simply put, whatever temperature limit set, the VIR will stop working once the wick is dry, therefore it won't burn the wick.

So your saying that even if the temperature is set at 280C, the VIR will never let the wick get over 210C? Will achieving a temperature of 280C when the wick is saturated not burn the wick?
 

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No. I'm assuming that the 210C you stated as the burn temperature of the wick is when it's dry AND if the wick is wet/saturated, it won't burn. The temperature can still go up to 280C max but once it senses that the wick is dry, it automatically stops heating it and therefore preventing the wick from burning.
 

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No. I'm assuming that the 210C you stated as the burn temperature of the wick is when it's dry AND if the wick is wet/saturated, it won't burn. . The temperature can still go up to 280C max but once it senses that the wick is dry, it automatically stops heating it and therefore preventing the wick from burning.

I guess that would make sense if the wick doesn't reach a temperature over 210C when wet even though the max temp is set at 280C. But I don't know whether it does. I guess we'll need the experts to clarify.
 

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Was Vassilis the one that was calling during the video recording (as usual)? :D

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magnets are not allowed on proteus-VIR fright. I only put it on negative pole of the bettery to archive the right length on esterigon because I didnt have made the right venting cap for it, exactly as you said.
Reverse battery protection is mechanical, so if you put battery with negative pole looking to the electronic, the electronic will not work
So I am curious in the video you mention that you were using a magnet to make contact (guessing because the battery didn't have a nipple top) I also didn't notice if you put the magnet on the negative end when you flipped the battery. Anyways my question is this. As far as reverse battery protection goes is this just because standard batteries don't typically have a nipple on the negative post or does the board protect against reverse polarity as well? As in if you had put the magnet on the negative end of the battery would it have made contact and thus fried the board?

I know it is a weird question but if a person was using a battery spacer to make contact ( lots of people love nippleless batteries) and the battery stuck to the contact and not the battery and someone accidentally put in a new battery backwards I wouldn't want them to fry their board.
 

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I dont know if cotton has a char point at 210 Lim but it doesnt get burned at all on VIR. So I assume that cotton has a much higher char point, that is 280 celsious degrees.
I will make one more video about VIR because I forgot to mention some things like the one you mention for example and to show you how it works in real time.
Hi Imeo,
first and foremost congratulations on achieving a major step towards a safer Vaping experience.

I do have one question:
In the video you mention that there is no way of burning the wick because the VIR only goes up to 280C. I know 280C is the limit for Acrolein production, but I've heard that the char point of cotton is 210C. I guess if you vape the VIR at 200C rather than a setting above this, then you will be safe from both Acrolein production and the fear of burning your wick? Is my assumption correct or have I misunderstood that part of the video?

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Thank you for the video Imeo. VIR is very special. In operation, functions and in build. I'm impressed! Can't wait to try it out! :toast:

In the video you say that it will make no difference if you vape with a coil made from 0,20 or 0,30 wire.
What I am trying to understand is; if both coils have the same diameter and the same number of wraps, the surface area of the 0,30 coil is much larger. So... if both coils are vaped at the same temperature, I think the 0,30 coil should produce more vapor?

And second, what would be the reason to use SS wire instead of Ti (or vice versa)?
 
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I dont know if cotton has a char point at 210 Lim but it doesnt get burned at all on VIR. So I assume that cotton has a much higher char point, that is 280 celsious degrees.
I will make one more video about VIR because I forgot to mention some things like the one you mention for example and to show you how it works in real time.

Thanks for the reply Imeo and I'm looking forward to the follow up video. The info in regards to cotton having a char point of 210C (410F) was mentioned in the DNA40 video that recently came up on YouTube.
 

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maybe a little more Fog but its not something special. Liquid on wick is evaporated even if its close to the wire and doesnt touch it at all. But a little more smoke will be produced, thats true. Dont forget that the coil is rounded, so the difference to the area that touches the wick is not big between wires
Thank you for the video Imeo. VIR is very special. In operation, functions and in build. I'm impressed! Can't wait to try it out! :toast:

In the video you say that it will make no difference if you vape with a coil made from 0,20 or 0,30 wire.
What I am trying to understand is; if both coils have the same diameter and the same number of wraps, the surface area of the 0,30 coil is much larger. So... if both coils are vaped at the same temperature, I think the 0,30 coil should produce more vapor?

And second, what would be the reason to use SS wire instead of Ti (or vice versa)?
 

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thats the fire temperature of a totally dry cotton Lim, something that VIR doesnt allow to happen:)
Thanks for the reply Imeo and I'm looking forward to the follow up video. The info in regards to cotton having a char point of 210C (410F) was mentioned in the DNA40 video that recently came up on YouTube.
 

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thank you JM. My purpose is to give you the safe vaping we all wanted.
As for your second question, it will probably work with esmokeguru Ti wires. I only hope that memory of the chip will allow me to do it

Yes Imeo . I hope you manage to make ESG Ti wire work as expected with VIR. I really like this Ti alloy . I know that the thickness of the wire is not that important anymore with VIR because vir will automatically adjust to whatever range of resistance . But still i would like to have the same setup in my atty with vir or when using with mech. mod . Also I tried in the past pure Ti grade 1 and I don't like , because it s springy and resistivity is to low for my personal setting which is always over 1.5 ohms . But anyway , Great job Imeo ! I will adapt to what ever you finally make , which I'm sure , will be the best :)
 

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Well Imeo great video looks like you have a winner. I know its not a simple thing but you have made it very straight forward and easy to use. Have you done a drop test with it lol. I am sure everyone is looking for wire now the specs should be put on ecf. I really impressed and glad you have got a patent for this one because this changes everything and will take some getting use to. So i guess my big question is when will it be available for Esterigon and will VIR and the new bottom cap be sold as one set or separate? I thought it was funny when you had to take the stickers off the bats all mine are like that lol. Cant wait for VIR
 

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thank you Adam:)
VIR will be ready for esterigon after Proteus sales and it will include all the nessesary things for it like pcba case, button etc and of course the new venting cap. The kit will include everything you need to transform esterigon to a VIR device
Well Imeo great video looks like you have a winner. I know its not a simple thing but you have made it very straight forward and easy to use. Have you done a drop test with it lol. I am sure everyone is looking for wire now the specs should be put on ecf. I really impressed and glad you have got a patent for this one because this changes everything and will take some getting use to. So i guess my big question is when will it be available for Esterigon and will VIR and the new bottom cap be sold as one set or separate? I thought it was funny when you had to take the stickers off the bats all mine are like that lol. Cant wait for VIR
 
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