Volt "Freedom" Tobacco Flavor safety questions

[R. Scott Kennan]

I found a second vape store in my town, and I bought two liquids- Virgin Vape's "Organic Best Damn tobacco", and Volt's "Freedom".

I'm vaping Freedom right now, and I'm getting an overtone of buttery popcorn. I remembered reading that one of the most common artifical butter flavorings (Diacetyl) is very dangerous when inhaled, resulting in popcorn lung. My main question is: Does anyone know if this flavor contains Diacetyl? I like it and I'd hate to waste a whole bottle of it, but I will if it's unsafe. I also just found out that the liquid is made in China-do we know anything about how it's made?

 

[Elantis]

I can't tell you about the ingredients in Volt's "Freedom", but if you want this question to be answered, it would be best to ask it in the Smokeless Image forum.

There is an Ask Imagine thread which would probably get a response quicker:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokeless-image/269723-ask-imagine-thread.html

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

Thanks. I've posted over there.

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

If anyone runs across this and doesn't want to hunt down that other thread, the answer straight from the company is that "Freedom" does not contain Diacetyl.

 

[Mr.Mann]

If anyone runs across this and doesn't want to hunt down that other thread, the answer straight from the company is that "Freedom" does not contain Diacetyl.

If it states it doesn't contain diacetyl, which means it may taste like it does, it may then contain diacetyl substitutes (very close to diacetyl). If you want to stay away from diacetyl, you should know that the question ought not be, "do you use diacetyl?," but do you use "diacetyl, acetoin, acetyl propionyl or ANY diacetyl substitutes."

Now, as far as The Best Damn Tobacco, well, that's just a bad example of a tobacco absolute liquid. Could you take a picture of that liquid? I'd like to see if they got it looking better than the swamp looking liquid it used to look like.

p.s. Me saying, "I don't listen to rap music, but I do listen to hip-hop" is like a vendor saying "we don't use diacetyl, but we do use acetoin and/or acetyl propionyl." Get it?

 

[Caridwen]

Maybe not vape any of the buttery flavors. From anyone if that's a concern for you.

A lot of this flavoring is made for ingestion.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Maybe not vape any of the buttery flavors. From anyone if that's a concern for you.

A lot of this flavoring is made for ingestion.

What's interesting is those flavors, the buttery ones, are sold with the caveat that "****** This flavor should only be used in Food and Cosmetic applications." That is a direct quote from The Flavour Apprentice. The problem is that some vendors use it knowing people are going to be inhaling it. I am not saying "be afraid, be very afraid," I am saying "be aware."

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

I guess I just won't vape it. I'd rather not have to hunt around for the magic words to find out if this juice will give me health problems five years from now.

Now, as far as The Best Damn Tobacco, well, that's just a bad example of a tobacco absolute liquid. Could you take a picture of that liquid? I'd like to see if they got it looking better than the swamp looking liquid it used to look like.

No picture, but it's greenish, cloudy, and tastes horrible. In the store it wasn't quite so bad, I didn't think. All around, I'm unhappy with the new shop. They had a larger selection of flavors and gear, but customer service sucked, and so far the juices I've bought were a total loss.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I guess I just won't vape it. I'd rather not have to hunt around for the magic words to find out if this juice will give me health problems five years from now.



No picture, but it's greenish, cloudy, and tastes horrible. In the store it wasn't quite so bad, I didn't think. All around, I'm unhappy with the new shop. They had a larger selection of flavors and gear, but customer service sucked, and so far the juices I've bought were a total loss.

If you're looking for something worlds away from what you may think a tobacco vape can be, try Heather's Heavenly Vapes tobacco line. You are owed something from trying The Worst Damn Tobacco eliquid! What nic do you vape, btw?

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

I vape 24. I really want a good rich pipe or cigarette tobacco flavor. I know I'll never get the burning tobacco flavor-which doesn't actually sound appealing even if it were possible- but I like the smell and taste of fresh tobacco. I used to smell my Camels before I lit them and it was awesome. I have a decent one made locally, and Boba's Bounty (which tastes nothing like tobacco to me) is growing on me.

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

As for the "Best Damn Tobacco", I've changed atomizers and cleaned the Hell out of my Evod tank, but I still taste a hint of it. It is really noxious stuff. I'll be picking up some vodka or Everclear if it's legal in my state for cleaning purposes from now on.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I vape 24. I really want a good rich pipe or cigarette tobacco flavor. I know I'll never get the burning tobacco flavor-which doesn't actually sound appealing even if it were possible- but I like the smell and taste of fresh tobacco. I used to smell my Camels before I lit them and it was awesome. I have a decent one made locally, and Boba's Bounty (which tastes nothing like tobacco to me) is growing on me.

For a cig vape, try Dark Horse from Heather's Heavenly Vapes or Big Spirit from Naturallyextractedtobacco.com. For a pipe blend, well, the world of NETs is your oyster. LOL. Stop by the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/274904-natural-tobaccos.html.