So your thinking is that china would benefit from loosing 50% of it's income and would rather not deal with the US ?
Have you ever heard of SeviaUSA ? they are donating largely for litigation as we speak ...............
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So your thinking is that china would benefit from loosing 50% of it's income and would rather not deal with the US ?
Have you ever heard of SeviaUSA ? they are donating largely for litigation as we speak ...............
Yes, you can. However it carries a LOT more weight if you're in the district that elects the congress critter. Generally, if you aren't represented by them, they can (and usually do) ignore the letter.
No Arguments there. Heck, Reps have a Bad Habit of Ignoring people from their Own District.
But what I'm Saying is if 15,000 Letters arrived at 223 Cannon House Office Building, Washington DC 20515-0552, it would Get a Lot of Attention.
Probably would be on CNN. With a bunch of Staffers in front of Bag after Bag of Letters. Mr. Hunter might even take the Opportunity to get on CNN holding a Bag of Pro e-Cigarette Letters. Politian's Love Free Air Time.
Because you know that 15,000 e-Mails can be Deleted in a Single Keystroke. But the USPS is Required to deliver a Piece of Mail no matter where it Comes from. Or where it is going to.
And I have, but emailing is a bit tougher when your zip code isn't in the Representative's district. I tried to fake a zipcode but then it wanted a street address
And I have, but emailing is a bit tougher when your zip code isn't in the Representative's district. I tried to fake a zipcode but then it wanted a street address
Sometimes the Pen is Mightier than the e-Mail.
"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds."
You are so right on! I started smoking at 15 and probably drinking too, when there's a will there's a way! The thing that really gets me going about the teen vaping issue, is that I am the mother of a high school senior who has never smoked, but he and his buddies bought mods and 0 mg juice just to make clouds and do tricks, NONE of these kids used nicotine and they all are over the whole vaping thing now. I do not believe that there are a bunch of kids starting to vape with nicotine unless they already smoked cigarettes, and in that case, I saw bravo for them for switching to the healthier option. I am so sick of the government in general trying to rule my life! Last I checked I am adult and can make my own decisions, so I will stock up even more and will fight this with all I've got!! Last thought for now: I wonder who if fighting for us and are they fighting hard enough to make a real difference?
My Daily Post the FB Page of the FDA on Deeming:
WHAT The FDA is NOT TELLING the PUBLIC...................is due to their Unconscionable actions against Vapers and Vapor Products, they in FACT are about to FORCE Millions seeking a Safer Alternative, once again, To start BLOWING DEADLY SMOKE upon the NON-Smokers of America.
FDA - Increasing POLLUTION, Increasing DEADLY TOXINS, Increasing HEALTH CONCERNS, increasing MEDICAL COST, increasing CHILD SMOKING RISK through Typical Access never effectively addressed.
This is an Over Burdening Action not only against a fledgling INDUSTRY but on the HEALTH and FUTURE OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
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WHAT The FDA is NOT TELLING the PUBLIC...................is due to their Unconscionable actions against Vapers and Vapor Products, they in FACT are about to FORCE Millions seeking a Safer Alternative, once again, To start BLOWING DEADLY SMOKE upon the NON-Smokers of America.
FDA - Increasing POLLUTION, Increasing DEADLY TOXINS, Increasing HEALTH CONCERNS, increasing MEDICAL COST, increasing CHILD SMOKING RISK through Typical Access never effectively addressed.
This is an Over Burdening Action not only against a fledgling INDUSTRY but on the HEALTH and FUTURE OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
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Well, our government is owned and run by big corps. Mexico's government is owned and run by drug dealers. The drug dealers seem to be kinder and gentler people.Wonder who their Lobbyist was?
While e-cigs are technically banned in mexico, there is 0 enforcement of this. I travel to Mexico frequently for business and walk through customs with multiple e-cigs, bottles of e-liquid, etc. 99% of the time you're not searched, but on the 2 occasions I have been, nobody asked, nobody cared.
Yes sir, I am aware of SeviaUSA. I was not aware P Busardo was affiliated with it. I don't recall him promoting it in the video I just watched. I don't know if I put much stock in it. It just seems odd a corp from one of the most regulated (Next to USA LOL) countries in the world to be citing the American Constitution. I just don't believe the fda (as well as the fed gov,including the courts) works on behalf of the American people. I conclude this from many decades of observation. Keeping in mind they don't owe us three trill, we owe them so I could argue they have the upper hand. As the US debt rises, US influence falls. The rest of the world seems to understand this principle better then most Americans. Like my one son as a 5 yr old when told we could not afford whatever, he would he would say "charge it".Like many today we couldn't make him understand it don't work that way. They are purchasing American holdings left and right with our debt. I just recalled a piece I read a couple of months ago they were looking at purchasing the Chicago Stock Exchange. Don't know the veracity of the report but I would surmise one could find out easy enough. I just checked and per CBS a Chinese-led investor group is buying the 134-year-old Chicago stock exchange. Not a good sign. It appears the CSE is now owned by a Chinese holding co. Lock the doors
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I think you maybe confused between Chinese government and the chinese "vaping industry" that took in over a billion last year alone
NO. Most of the people anywhere are pigeonholed with what they know and what they can be expected to do even if it is for their own benefit.
I held a "Great Chicago Vape-in" in Chicago a few months back. After advertising it on VU and ECF, I had ONE PERSON show up, and all it was to do was to do a hand-check, talk abt vaping, get info out abt coming FDA regs.
Also, I see ppl who are ECF Veterans, and everything from "Ultra Member" to "Vaping Master" to "ECF Guru" and they know nothing abt DIY, the different gear that is out there or anything regarding FDA regs.
Membership to any org does not guarantee knowledge or desire to wage a battle for vaping.
Not sure where your going with all this, but .............If you were an invester, regardless from Where.......would you not work for your best interest in your investment?
Sevia USA is backed by individual Member Manufacturers from China and the Officers are US Citizens.
Innokin
Aspire
Kanger
Smok
Joyetech
All looking out for Their interest and Your Choice choice to Vape, not Smoke.
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I remember your Event. In fact I think I Bumped your Thread a couple of Times to keep it in the New Posts.
If people are Unwilling to Spend then Same Amount of Time to send an e-Mail or Write a Letter to a Rep as they do to Make an Average Post here on the ECF, then they Deserve All that They will Receive.
I totally agree zoiD!
What sucks though is by them getting what they deserve ultimately affects the rest of us!
Of all the vapers I personally know, only my wife answers the calls to action and sends emails and letters.
The rest couldn't be bothered. I can't even get my 23 yr old stepson to lift a finger. He's really good at shrugging his shoulders though!
I hope they're not counting on me to keep them stocked, they're in for a rude awakening.
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And I have, but emailing is a bit tougher when your zip code isn't in the Representative's district. I tried to fake a zipcode but then it wanted a street address
I have occasionally felt the need to cross reference zip codes and addresses. I've found it isn't too hard using these two websites. Google maps has also come into play a few times.
I happened to be close to a vape shop today so I decided to go in and ask if they were involved in any advocacy, or even aware of the deeming regs. The first guy I asked gave me blank stare and a "huh?" The second guy said they weren't members of SFATA but they had been to some meetings, they thought ahead and got their CA tobacco license, they don't mix juice in house, and until they are told otherwise they're doing business as usual.
I had my daughter with me so I didn't feel like going into it with them, but I don't expect that shop to be around a whole lot longer.
I had my daughter with me so I didn't feel like going into it with them, but I don't expect that shop to be around a whole lot longer.
I truly value you taking the effort to keep the dialog open and to try and get people interested.
I'm nobody, and I'm here on ECF to be with like minded individuals and I follow vapers on Twitter. For the life of me, I do not know how leaders in the vaping community deal with people who refuse to get off the couch to do anything. They have one heck of a spirit!
I'm willing to do anything legal to push for better vaping regs in my City, State or Nation.
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