VV or no VV That is the question!

[landscaper]

Just wanted to hear from some of the more experienced vapors on VV. I have the EGO T and I have the batteries that came with it and I was wondering as I want to eventually upgrade if VV was necessary.

I have an A2 on order so I don't have to worry about attys any longer and I would like to get a good battery setup for it. Some offer lifetime warranty and some don't. The ones without the VV like the Precise are nice because of the looks and warranty. I don't want to have a bunch of mods like some do, (That may change as I get more experience) I just want to have a really good battery and atty setup.

I think I'm going to love the A2 once I get it, its just now I need to get the battery to go with it figured out. I want something that I can vape all day on and not have to worry about charging all the time. The Ego batteries I have work well and the charge time is decent but when they finally go out I want to upgrade and I only want to do it once. I like the idea a VV but since I never used it I don't know if its necessary. Some say it is and some say its not. I do want something that is a nice design like the Precise or the I Pro.

So what do you guys think and recommend?

Dave

 

[ScottinSoCal]

I wish I'd gotten a good VV device right from the start. It would have saved me several hundred (yeah, seriously) dollars on almost-but-not-quite hardware. I freaked when I first saw the price of my ProVari, but then I realized it was less than a month's worth of cigarettes and I don't have to buy it again every month. Cheap, in the long run.

 

[Fazed]

Personally, I have migrated away from all my fixed voltage mods. I've had an Icon 3.7v from puresmoker (my 1st mod), then got an Apex Alpha UltraMax with both 3.7v and 6v batteries. I've sold them both, and have blissfully settled in with a Provari and a Darwin. I love them both for different reasons. the Provari is bullet proof, easy to use, works well with my tanks, has the same vape from fresh battery till the end. The Darwin operates differently so that you regulate power (watts) not voltage, so my wattage setting is the same whether I use a carto at 1.5 ohms, 2 ohms or 3 ohms, the Darwin automatically adjusts the voltage to keep the wattage where I set it. Downside is you need adapters to use tanks and fatter carts.

If you don't want to spend a ton of money, but want to check out VV mods on the cheap, madvapes sells VV box mods for around $35 I think. Never used one though, but lots of folks on here swear by them.


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[Dougiestyle]

Since my tinkering got the best of me, I've built several VV mods myself. I can't ever imagine going back to fixed voltage.

As far as your tank atty- Throw it away. Just my honest opinion. To use it on a VV, you'd need a 510 extension adapter. The tank atties are pewp, tho. Try DC cartos on a VV (the Madvapes one is an affordable start). You'll kick yourself for not finding out sooner! =)

When you graduate to VV with DC cartos, there are carto tanks available.

This setup (ignore the beers and sparkly eGo [it's my GFs]) lasts me a day and a half, but I put fresh batts in every morning:

 

[Odell]

Just wanted to hear from some of the more experienced vapors on VV. I have the EGO T and I have the batteries that came with it and I was wondering as I want to eventually upgrade if VV was necessary.



Dave

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[Dougiestyle]

BTW That mod goes to work with me. I'm a certified landscaper, too!

 

[Killjoy1]

Well, with the A2, you can wind the coil to your preferred resistance (and play around to find what works best for you) so VV isn't really necessary to fine-tune your vape. Once you do find your preferred setup with the A2 you may not feel the need for any further adjustment. The arguments for VV do still apply, since different juices may be better at different settings etc, but it's all up to you in the end. Some people are perfectly happy with fixed voltage and others are not, we're all different

I still used fixed voltage mods on occasion, but my variable devices are my primary ones. Once you've gotten a taste of it you never go back ;-) If you feel you want to try out a VV device, I also recommend checking out a cheap VV box mod just to find out if it's what you're looking for or if a regular 3.7 volt mod would be best for you.

 

[BJ43]

Been vaping almost 3 years and thought 5v was the max. About 4 months ago I built this lab machine to test my rebuilt attys and now feel I was missing at least 90% of the true pleasure of vaping without VV. The thread gives more info and it cost less than $30 to build.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/220307-vvbox-vvpassthru.html

 

[landscaper]

I wish I'd gotten a good VV device right from the start. It would have saved me several hundred (yeah, seriously) dollars on almost-but-not-quite hardware. I freaked when I first saw the price of my ProVari, but then I realized it was less than a month's worth of cigarettes and I don't have to buy it again every month. Cheap, in the long run.

Your right and that is the way I look at it. I like to buy good stuff one time. I don't cheap out when it comes to tools or stuff I need. I learned that lesson years ago.

Thanks for the reply.

Dave

 

[landscaper]

BTW That mod goes to work with me. I'm a certified landscaper, too!

Hello fellow landscaper. So you don't like the A2? I have the A2 with the A2TM upgrade coming. From what I have been reading the A2 is great for flavor, better than the A2TM. We will see.


I'm kinda electronically challenged so I don't know about building my own. I can do a lot of things and I work with my hands daily, but I never fool with electronic stuff. A man has to know his limits.

Dave

 

[landscaper]

Personally, I have migrated away from all my fixed voltage mods. I've had an Icon 3.7v from puresmoker (my 1st mod), then got an Apex Alpha UltraMax with both 3.7v and 6v batteries. I've sold them both, and have blissfully settled in with a Provari and a Darwin. I love them both for different reasons. the Provari is bullet proof, easy to use, works well with my tanks, has the same vape from fresh battery till the end. The Darwin operates differently so that you regulate power (watts) not voltage, so my wattage setting is the same whether I use a carto at 1.5 ohms, 2 ohms or 3 ohms, the Darwin automatically adjusts the voltage to keep the wattage where I set it. Downside is you need adapters to use tanks and fatter carts.

If you don't want to spend a ton of money, but want to check out VV mods on the cheap, madvapes sells VV box mods for around $35 I think. Never used one though, but lots of folks on here swear by them.


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Yeah I really like that Provari. I try to only buy the best but I'm a cheap SOB too.

Dave

 

[landscaper]

Well, with the A2, you can wind the coil to your preferred resistance (and play around to find what works best for you) so VV isn't really necessary to fine-tune your vape. Once you do find your preferred setup with the A2 you may not feel the need for any further adjustment. The arguments for VV do still apply, since different juices may be better at different settings etc, but it's all up to you in the end. Some people are perfectly happy with fixed voltage and others are not, we're all different

I still used fixed voltage mods on occasion, but my variable devices are my primary ones. Once you've gotten a taste of it you never go back ;-) If you feel you want to try out a VV device, I also recommend checking out a cheap VV box mod just to find out if it's what you're looking for or if a regular 3.7 volt mod would be best for you.

I think I'm going to wait a little while before I buy something because I do want to play with the A2 when it comes.

Dave

 

[landscaper]

Been vaping almost 3 years and thought 5v was the max. About 4 months ago I built this lab machine to test my rebuilt attys and now feel I was missing at least 90% of the true pleasure of vaping without VV. The thread gives more info and it cost less than $30 to build.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/220307-vvbox-vvpassthru.html

Thanks BJ you never fail to amaze me.

Dave

 

[BJ43]

Even though a repairable atty lets you play around with the ohms it is never as accurate as adjusting the voltage. I have always laughed at the LR atty, the are nothing more than a smaller coil. In the picture I wrapped two 3 ohm coils around the same ss wick. The top 36 awg wire is actually larger than that used in LR atty and the lower in 32 awg wire. On this wick 4 wraps of 36awg or 11 wraps of 32 gauge equals 3 ohms. To the battery both are the same and pure common sense tells you that the larger heating area of 11 wraps has to produce more vaper. If you want LR atty just cut the wraps in half on each and you have 1.5 ohms. VV gives you the advantage of fine tuning each vape and adjusting as you use a atty and it starts to weaken.

 

[landscaper]

Even though a repairable atty lets you play around with the ohms it is never as accurate as adjusting the voltage. I have always laughed at the LR atty, the are nothing more than a smaller coil. In the picture I wrapped two 3 ohm coils around the same ss wick. The top 36 awg wire is actually larger than that used in LR atty and the lower in 32 awg wire. On this wick 4 wraps of 36awg or 11 wraps of 32 gauge equals 3 ohms. To the battery both are the same and pure common sense tells you that the larger heating area of 11 wraps has to produce more vaper. If you want LR atty just cut the wraps in half on each and you have 1.5 ohms. VV gives you the advantage of fine tuning each vape and adjusting as you use a atty and it starts to weaken.

That makes sense BJ. So do you recommend 32 over 36 for more surface area?

Dave

 

[BJ43]

That makes sense BJ. So do you recommend 32 over 36 for more surface area?

Dave

Yes I do, the problem was the room between the screws, hard to fit 11 wraps so I made the bonut inverted V and problem solved, and best of all works great.

 

[landscaper]

Yes I do, the problem was the room between the screws, hard to fit 11 wraps so I made the bonut inverted V and problem solved, and best of all works great.

Your the man BJ. Thank you for all of your very helpful post with pics. I'm going to have to study up on electricity. I don't know jack about Ohms and volts and all that. Ive always tried to stay away from that sort of thing. I leave that to the electricians.

Dave

 

[sunnyx]

I'm using a SB currently and have been thinking about getting VV mod i'd love to get a provari but its not within my budget=P will either end up getting a box mod from kensboxmods or something cheaper that can use the 18650 batterys i have.